How can I see the metadata colorspace for RAW photos in Lightroom 4.3?

As described above on this page I selected all the different premade metadata sets in the Library module. But none of them shows the metadata colorspace (sRGB or Adobe RGB) for my Nikon D800 RAW photos.

Hi dj_paige,

"I know that Raw photo files generally don’t have embedded color profiles. For raw files, the Develop module assumes a wide color space based on the color values of the ProPhoto RGB color space. ProPhoto RGB encompasses most colors that cameras can record." See About color management in Lightroom

But I want to know in which colorspace the original RAW photo was taken, just as I can see the metadata focal length, aperture, shutter and ISO value.

Hi Rikk Flohr,

In the Shooting menu of my Nikon D800 I can set Color space to: sRGB or Adobe RGB.

So I want Lightroom to show me this metadata.

Only applies to your JPEG Thumbnails - not your Raw files...

Or if you only shoot JPEG...

The reason Darrel recommend shooting in Adobe RGB while shooting Raw is so that your JPEG thumbnail embedded in the Raw file looks more like a Raw file and less like a JPEG. Many pros do this and also turn down the contrast on the JPEG preview as well. It gives them a ball-park view of the Raw file before you actually run it through a Raw converter. It has nothing to do with the Raw file and only applies to the JPEG thumbnail.

You can specify Adobe RGB and sRGB for either but it does nothing to your Raw file.

Lightroom cannot show something that doesn't exist - ie. the Color Space of a Raw file.

Lastly, this is a user-to-user forum and an official answer from Adobe Employees is unlikely.  Regardless, no matter how many times you ask the question, the answer will be the same.

If you want to post to the Official (Bug and Feature Request forum) it is here: http://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/products/photoshop_fami ly_photoshop_lightroom

Van-Paul wrote:

 

In the Shooting menu of my Nikon D800 I can set Color space to: sRGB or Adobe RGB.

So I want Lightroom to show me this metadata.

Lightroom only shows the exif metadata that Adobe chose to support - colorspace did not make the cut.

The only way to see this metadata in Lightroom is with the help of a plugin, e.g.

ExifMeta

Reminder: colorspace chosen in camera does not affect raw data nor Lightroom's rendering of it (it is stored in the raw file, and is critical to proper interpretation of color in the jpeg preview which is embedded in the raw file, but does not affect raw photo processing).

Rob

Van-Paul wrote:

 

in the book "Mastering the Nikon D800 by Darrel Young" on page 125 - 126 is written: "If you shoot in RAW format a lot, you may want to consider using Adobe RGB....."

 

Conclusion:

- For RAW I can use: Adobe RGB or sRGB

This statement is misleading, in my opinion. Consider consulting author and suggest improved wording.

Although colorspace *does* affect the raw file - i.e. the jpeg preview(s) in it, it does not affect the raw data, and it is ignored in Lightroom (except potentially for a brief moment when displaying the embedded preview from the raw file, before it is supplanted by Lr's rendering of the raw data - but it is probably even ignored then as well - dunno), and it is ignored in other raw data processors as well, for the most part (except potentially, like Lightroom, when displaying the embedded previews...).

Rob

If you shoot in RAW format a lot, you may want to consider using Adobe RGB

This is pure and utter nonsense. As the others have told you repeatedly: a raw file has no color space. It is opened into one in the raw converter. The camera setting is totally and completely irrelevant.

There is no need for any Nikon or Adobe "expert" to comment on this. This is simply how it works, end of story. Period. But unfortunately many people fail to understand this, so the misunderstanding gets propagated.

The camera jpeg, however, is fully processed in the camera and that's a completely different story.

That said, it could of course happen that Nikon put something in the metadata so that Capture NX would open it into the "user-chosen" space. But that would be the only reason for it.

If the people of Nikon and Adobe have the same helpful attitude as the people on this forum I think they seriously answer my question.

I hope you can shake a little sense into Nikon. Their D300 manual makes no distinction whatsoever between settings that affect jpegs (almost all of them) and those that affect raw data too (essentially just the basic exposure settings). - very confusing to a raw newb.

Please report what they say if you get a response.

Thanks,

Rob

Some camera models change their filename pattern as a prompt, whenever the camera is set to AdobeRGB instead of sRGB.

For example, they may show the first character of your JPGs as an underscore - Pentax, for instance, change IMGPxxxxxx.jpg to _IGPxxxxxx.jpg

Because these cameras may sometimes be set to Raw+JPG (and the main filename still needs to match) you see the same change in Raw filenames also.

twenty_one wrote:

 

I suspect that's because they want all Nikon shooters to use Capture NX...

Good point. - if one uses NX2 or ViewNX to process, then (theoretically and for the most part), one does not need to concern oneself with such details...

Nikon's anwwer is here

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