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How can i make text not reflow to my first pages where only title and writer's name are to be?

Jan 1, 2013 10:55 AM

My intro always goes to the previous page even though i apply paragraph style that normally makes a paragraph go to the new page or frame...

1163 Views   21 Replies   Latest reply: Yevhenii, Jan 4, 2013 10:56 AM
 
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  • Peter Spier
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    1. Peter Spier,
    Jan 1, 2013 11:17 AM   in reply to Yevhenii
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    I think we need to see some screen shots to understand what's going on....

     
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  • Yevhenii
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    2. Yevhenii,
    Jan 3, 2013 12:03 PM   in reply to Peter Spier
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    2013-01-01_22h41_50.jpg

     
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  • Peter Spier
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    3. Peter Spier,
    Jan 3, 2013 12:16 PM   in reply to Yevhenii
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    What part of that text does not belong on that page?

     
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    4. Yevhenii,
    Jan 3, 2013 1:08 PM   in reply to Peter Spier
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    All after

    'series editors: andy hopkins and jocelyn potter'

     

    All below this text i need on the next page and with the font size change i want it to stay on top of same next page

     
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  • John Mensinger
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    5. John Mensinger,
    Jan 3, 2013 1:19 PM   in reply to Yevhenii
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    Assuming your text frames are threaded, (they don't have to be, you know), you have at least two options:

     

    1. Resize (shorten) the text frame on page 1 so it can't fit anything beyond the names.

     

    2. With your insertion point before the P in Pearson, insert a frame break, (Shift+Num Enter).

     
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  • Peter Spier
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    6. Peter Spier,
    Jan 3, 2013 1:24 PM   in reply to Yevhenii
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    I need two more screen captures, please, to check the keep options.

     

    Place your cursor in the Pearson Education Limited line and right-click on the Paragraph style assigned to it, choose Edit Style... and make a screen capture of that style showing the Keep Options section.

     

    Do the same for the Series Editors line. Please also include the Paragraph Styles  panel in the screen captures so we can see the style applied and if there are any overrides.

     

    Make sure you do this with the cursor in those two lines, so we see the keep options actually assigned and you can verify that you have actually applied the correct styles, and make sure we can tell which screen capture goes with each line.

     
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  • Peter Spier
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    7. Peter Spier,
    Jan 3, 2013 1:26 PM   in reply to John Mensinger
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    @ John,

     

    Yevhennii thinks this should be happening automatically with the paragraph style (and there's no reason it can't be done that way), so I'd like to verify the keep options in use to be sure they set correctly to do this.

     
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  • John Mensinger
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    8. John Mensinger,
    Jan 3, 2013 1:43 PM   in reply to Peter Spier
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    Ah, thanks for waking me up, Peter.

     
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  • Yevhenii
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    9. Yevhenii,
    Jan 3, 2013 1:46 PM   in reply to Peter Spier
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    1. i can't do (Shift+Num Enter) because the tex in the frame dissapears

    2013-01-03_23h42_28.jpg

    an here i used basic and just centered the text

    2013-01-03_23h44_24.jpg

     
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  • Peter Spier
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    10. Peter Spier,
    Jan 3, 2013 1:53 PM   in reply to Yevhenii
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    OK.

     

    The keep options seem to be correct, and it looks to me inthe screen capture as if the text is properly split. Is there still a problem?

     
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  • Yevhenii
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    11. Yevhenii,
    Jan 3, 2013 2:01 PM   in reply to Peter Spier
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    Yeah, it's still like this2013-01-01_22h41_50.jpg

    But, i want to know how to make it like this (e.g. Cloud Atlas dowloaded from the enternet)

    2013-01-04_00h00_37.jpg2013-01-04_00h00_53.jpg

     
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  • Peter Spier
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    12. Peter Spier,
    Jan 3, 2013 2:06 PM   in reply to Yevhenii
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    Is this an ePub? Are you showing us the layout pages, or the output pages?

     
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    13. Yevhenii,
    Jan 3, 2013 2:14 PM   in reply to Peter Spier
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    Yes, it's an epub output pages of a properly made book i downloaded from internet opened in the same Adobe Digital Editions as i used for my improperly made 'Airport'

     

    if you give your email i can send my indd file and you'll check it

     
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  • Peter Spier
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    14. Peter Spier,
    Jan 3, 2013 2:21 PM   in reply to Yevhenii
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    I don't do ePub, so I can't check it for you. I think, though, that the problem is that you need to start a new section to get a page break in the reader (that may not be correct, and it may be that you need to adjust the HTML manually). Try starting a new section in the layout for that page (Right click the page in the Pages panel and choose Numbering and Section Options, then just check the start section box).

     
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  • Yevhenii
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    15. Yevhenii,
    Jan 3, 2013 2:31 PM   in reply to Peter Spier
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    Ok, thanks

     
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  • Peter Spier
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    16. Peter Spier,
    Jan 3, 2013 3:27 PM   in reply to Yevhenii
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    Breaking into separate stories may help, too, rather than having threaded text.

     
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  • Yevhenii
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    17. Yevhenii,
    Jan 4, 2013 7:23 AM   in reply to Peter Spier
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    maybe the problem is in export?

     
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  • Peter Spier
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    18. Peter Spier,
    Jan 4, 2013 7:29 AM   in reply to Yevhenii
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    It might also be that waht you want is a "fixed page" (I think) epub. I don't believe ID exports these directly.

     

    Any lurkers who know something about epub export should step in, please....

     
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  • MikeWenzloff
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    19. MikeWenzloff,
    Jan 4, 2013 7:44 AM   in reply to Peter Spier
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    No expert here...

     

    However, whenever--and no matter what tool I am using for an ePub--a page break between one part of content and then the next, I use a new chapter. No idea whether section breaks themselves would prevent the flow of what an ePub is to "snug up" to the previous section. Seems it should, though.

     

    I can give it a try this weekend on an ePub I am fixing for someone.

     

    Take care, Mike

     
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  • Yevhenii
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    20. Yevhenii,
    Jan 4, 2013 8:04 AM   in reply to MikeWenzloff
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    Would be great, because i've been serfing the enternet to find something for almost a week and still nothing

     
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  • Yevhenii
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    21. Yevhenii,
    Jan 4, 2013 10:56 AM   in reply to Yevhenii
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    Finally, it's  HERE!!!

    It relates to Advanced Split Document option: when we export the document we have to choose "Based on Paragraph Style export tag" here:

    2013-01-04_20h47_13.jpg

    but before you tick "Split Document (EPUB Only)" for every paragraph style you want to separate:

    2013-01-04_20h47_50.jpg

     

    Anyway, thank you guys for help!

     
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