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How to import Muse into Dreamweaver

Jan 16, 2013 4:09 PM

Tags: #php #html #dreamweaver #mysql #muse #cs6 #website.

I am trying to import my muse website into Dreamweaver because i want do design my website in muse and then use PHP and MySQL to make blogs and membership systems etc. When I open dreamweaver and right-click  on the Muse website and press "Open With - Dreamweaver", it starts opening it (it only opens the Muse website and just shows a blank HTML)... then Dreamweaver stops responding and i have to close it. If there is any way of making a membership system and blog in Muse (which only certain people can edit [not using Muse]) then please reply an answer... or if possible can people please respond on how to open a muse website in dreamweaver.

 

Thanks in Advance

Richard

 

 
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    Jan 16, 2013 4:16 PM   in reply to FalfyWalfy

    MU is a code generator while DW is an HTML editor.

    I don't think you can import MU files directly into DW.  I think the best you can do is open the HTML pages in DW the same way you would with any site.

     

    The first step in DW, is to define your local & remote site folders by going to Site | Manage Sites > New Site...  Tell DW where on your hard drive to find your local site files.

    http://www.adobe.com/devnet/dreamweaver/articles/first_website_pt1.htm

     

     

    Nancy O.

     
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    Jan 16, 2013 5:38 PM   in reply to FalfyWalfy

    Look at Business Catalyst for your blog.

    http://www.businesscatalyst.com/features

     

    I don't use MU and probably never will.  But as I understand it, you can upload your MU site to BC & integrate with its many modules.

    http://tv.adobe.com/watch/introducing-business-catalyst/getting-starte d-with-business-catalyst-and-muse-creating-and-publishing-sites/

     

     

    Nancy O.

     
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    Jan 17, 2013 4:15 PM   in reply to FalfyWalfy

    MU is really aimed at non-coding designers who want quick & easy web pages.  I'm afraid the trade-off for all that "ease of use" is bloated code & limited support for advanced web features.  

     

     

    Nancy O.

     
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    Jan 18, 2013 9:23 PM   in reply to Nancy O.

    If Muse is restricted to Muse- it wil dissapaer soon.

     

    It's usless if its generated pages cannot then be used in DW, etc.

     

    It's museless™!

     
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    Jan 19, 2013 12:25 PM   in reply to cvcles

    Nobody said you can't edit MU pages in DW's Code View.  It's just that MU code is awful to work with.

     

    Nancy O.

     
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    Feb 11, 2013 5:28 AM   in reply to FalfyWalfy

    you can try by exporting to html from MU and then setting up a new site in DW using the folder where you exported the MU project.

     
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    Feb 19, 2013 3:43 PM   in reply to Nancy O.

    As a non-coding designer, I'd rather design and hand off or collaborate with a Dreamwear person who can do the html coding and maintenance. My interest is in what the viewer sees and how they use it, not necessarily know how to create code. Most of us know how to drive a car, but few know how to build one. Rather than let Muse become a "whipping post" and the bane of all Dreamweaver coders, perhaps Adobe might entertain the idea of making Muse files Dreamweaver friendly. They certainly have accomplished this in other areas ala Creative Suite. Business Catalyst is just their answer solutiion, but for many clients, isn't the way they conduct their business.

     

    So  in the meantime, it would great if people who are Dreamweaver evangelists provide some insight about figuring out how best to make things work. I mean it's you folks that are working under the hood. And, I respect that.

     

    Thanks,

    David

     
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    Feb 19, 2013 4:04 PM   in reply to david_imanaka

    Not meaning to appear disparaging here, but if a client asked me to collaborate with them on a MU site, I would respectfully decline or tell them that the whole thing needed to be rebuilt in DW.  MU code is HORRIBLE.   There aren't enough hours in my day...

     

    I doubt Adobe can realistically make MU code any less onerous to work with.  MU is what it is -- a consumer level product aimed at non-coders. 

     

     

    Nancy O.

     
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    Feb 19, 2013 5:54 PM   in reply to Nancy O.

    No matter how onerous or horrible Muse is, my comment was to find a workable path. I mean it's easy enough to find reasons not to. That's the easy part. The hardwork or maybe not, are reasons to make it work.

     

    You have to understand I am not talking about code, you need to take that up with Adobe, not the MU user. I'm just trying to find a workable path to solving a need no matter how distasteful you may find it.

     

    MU is what Adobe is.

     
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    Feb 20, 2013 1:35 AM   in reply to david_imanaka

    When you finished designing your site in MU, go to File > Export as HTML > enter a domain name > choose a location on your computer > click OK.

     

    Then you can give the exported files to your developer, and he can set up a DW site via the site management (assuming that he knows how to do that).

     

    Have fun designing beautiful sites

     
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    Feb 20, 2013 3:39 AM   in reply to filip.scridon

    Thanks filip.scridon- I am sure most of you skilled Dreamweaver people are just that, highly skilled. I do have a modicum of expertise at multiple levels in the global process and mating resources. Part of the challenge is to match skill and willingness to slog through the "bloat" to fulfill client expectations. They don't pay for "no" answers. There are several things I've learned, MU is challenging (a pain) even for skilled DW users, MU has low level DW functionality, and that I have to carefully screen DW user skills before hiring them. I really appreciate all of the responses as it has been helpful and insightful.

     

    So if any Adobe Customer Experience Specialists are monitoring these boards, what say you about this conflict between MU and DW while playing in the same sandbox?

     
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    Feb 20, 2013 5:00 AM   in reply to david_imanaka

    I am no expert, but I think the philosophy behind the MU project is not half bad. I think it is aimed at designers with little coding skills, that need to qickly bring their ideas to life. FW does (in part) the same thing, and IN recently received HTML5 and CSS3 exporting capabilities. Even PS can export CSS3 now (but only for cloud subscribers).

     

    So I guess Adobe is only trying to cater to the needs of as many people as possible, people that have very different backgrounds and are acustomed to very different ways of working. And it's inevitable that sometimes features overlap, or some may feel neglected, or even over billed.

     

    Therefore I think you should see MU and DW not competing, but rather complementing eachother. Afterall, design is about communication, and communication is about colaboration.

     
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    Apr 10, 2013 3:07 PM   in reply to FalfyWalfy

    So far the only adequate workaround that I have in place is to design Muse pages that link to more complex pages (i.e. forms connected to PHP). When you export to HTML from your Muse project it will build an "assets" folder and populate it with whatever HTML files you have linked to. You have to copy external CSS and other resources (images) associated with your linked HTML file to the asset folder yourself, but that is a minor inconvenience considering the speed that Muse allows in building your 'front end'.

     
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