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Working with .mpg files

Jan 19, 2013 10:30 AM

I have about 10 files (.mpg converted from VHS to Digital). Each file is ~4 to 6GB in size. I'd like to pull them into Premiere Elements 8.0, edit and create menus. When I started I tested one project to burn I noticed that roughly 2 hrs of video will consume the entire BD disk (25GB).  Could this be an issue with the project settings and/or the output settings?

I'm using  HDV 720p, frame size 1280 x 720, 48khz for project settings.

Using H.264 440x1080i NSC Dobly for the preset to burn to BD.

 

From reading some threads, it may have been better to have converted these VHS's to avi vs mpg.  Any advice at this point?   As always, feedback is greatly appreciated. 

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  • Ann Bens
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    1. Ann Bens,
    Jan 19, 2013 12:32 PM   in reply to boxan_21
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    You vhs files are probably SD (standard definition) 720x480.

    Putting then in a HD project (720P) and exporting yet to different HD resolution will not work well.

    You can burn SD to a BD but you will have to leave it SD.

    Uprezzing SD to HD without the proper tools will not look good in Elements.

     
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  • Steve Grisetti
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    2. Steve Grisetti,
    Jan 19, 2013 2:57 PM   in reply to Ann Bens
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    As Ann says, we need to know more about those fils. MPEGs can be practically anything!

     

    Who converted this VHS video to MPEG? If you did it yourself, you're going to have problems, since you likely used a capture card or USB-connected device, which will not produce files that will give you a good quality edited video. Particularly if these are standard definition MPEGs, blowing them out to a BluRay disc is going to make them look truly awful.

     

    Open one of MPEGS in a program like G Spot or Media Info and list its resolution, frame rate and, above all, its codec.

     
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  • boxan_21
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    3. boxan_21,
    Jan 20, 2013 10:00 AM   in reply to Steve Grisetti
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    Ann/Steve,  

    This capture was done via Dazzle. The VHS tapes are SD (720x480).  I have about 15 Hi8 tapes after I finish the VHS tapes. Did some additional research and appears that I can still use Dazzle and abandon the Pinnacle Studio and use instead "VirtualDub"  to get an avi file that I believe is best to preserve quality and allow Premiere Elements to efficiently edit and create a digital file for burning. Will this work?  To be clear on my objective, I want to take many VHS tapes (~30), convert to digital format, edit and burn to BD disks. I'd like to maintain quality, but my hope was to ahve ~ 6 hrs of play per BD.   Thanks in advance of your reply on this topic........... still learning

     

    I'm running a Dell XPS 435MT, x64, i7 quad core, 6GB RAM, ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series, 750GB HardDrive, two 1TB external HD's

     

    here is the info on one of the files:

     

    Format                                   : MPEG-PS
    File size                                : 957 MiB
    Duration                                 : 18mn 18s
    Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
    Overall bit rate                         : 7 306 Kbps

    Video
    ID                                       : 224 (0xE0)
    Format                                   : MPEG Video
    Format version                           : Version 2
    Format profile                           : Main@Main
    Format settings, BVOP                    : Yes
    Format settings, Matrix                  : Custom
    Format settings, GOP                     : M=3, N=15
    Duration                                 : 18mn 18s
    Bit rate mode                            : Variable
    Bit rate                                 : 6 937 Kbps
    Maximum bit rate                         : 8 000 Kbps
    Width                                    : 720 pixels
    Height                                   : 480 pixels
    Display aspect ratio                     : 4:3
    Frame rate                               : 29.970 fps
    Standard                                 : NTSC
    Color space                              : YUV
    Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
    Bit depth                                : 8 bits
    Scan type                                : Interlaced
    Scan order                               : Top Field First
    Compression mode                         : Lossy
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.670
    Stream size                              : 908 MiB (95%)
    Color primaries                          : BT.601 NTSC
    Transfer characteristics                 : BT.601
    Matrix coefficients                      : BT.601

    Audio
    ID                                       : 192 (0xC0)
    Format                                   : MPEG Audio
    Format version                           : Version 1
    Format profile                           : Layer 2
    Mode                                     : Joint stereo
    Mode extension                           : Intensity Stereo + MS Stereo
    Duration                                 : 18mn 18s
    Bit rate mode                            : Constant
    Bit rate                                 : 224 Kbps
    Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
    Sampling rate                            : 48.0 KHz
    Compression mode                         : Lossy
    Stream size                              : 29.3 MiB (3%)

     
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  • John T Smith
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    4. John T Smith,
    Jan 20, 2013 10:13 AM   in reply to boxan_21
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    >capture was done via Dazzle

     

    I have not read much that was good about Dazzle

     

    The model 55 at http://www.grassvalley.com/products/converters will create the DV AVI you need for editing... as long as your computer has a Firewire port

     
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  • Steve Grisetti
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    5. Steve Grisetti,
    Jan 20, 2013 12:38 PM   in reply to John T Smith
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    I agree. Dazzle is one of those USB-based devices that's designed to work pretty much exclusively with the software that comes with it.

     

    For capturing analog video, your best best is a FireWire based DV bridge, as we recommend in this artcle:

    http://forums.adobe.com/thread/431853?tstart=0

     
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  • boxan_21
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    6. boxan_21,
    Jan 21, 2013 2:07 PM   in reply to Steve Grisetti
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    Thank. I'm putting in an order for a Canopus ADVC110.  Appears that the ADVC300 is no longer available (which includes a power supply).  Appreciate your feedback!

     
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