I have started learning Wordpress and Drupal. I know Dreamweaver.
I understand in both CMS platform I have to make Custom Design Template in Dreamweaver to satisfy my client needs.
So I am wondering, is Dreamweaver having better integration with Wordpress or Drupal for building design template and etc?
I have choose Drupal & Wordpress over Joomla because for currently available extensions -
Wordpress has 23,277 plugins.
Drupal has 19,600 modules.
Joomla has 10,000 extensions.
Though some are commercial, some are outdated, some have bugs etc.
Themegenie has an extension for Dreamweaver that helps you customize Drupal Themes.
Tips for Creating Drupal Themes in DW
Working with Drupal in DW
I don't know what you are expecting DW to do for you. Dreamweaver is a code editor. It's not a visual design editor for content management systems. It enables code hinting for those content management systems to help you program better, but I'm not sure what you are expecting it to do more than that.
Yes, dreamweaver is a code editor for CMS.
But I am asking, if I make custom drupal theme design in themegenie.net or any other free application, do I need to work in Code?
Is themegenie.net is an extension of Dreamwever or it is a totally other appication?
Themegenie is an extension. I have personally have never used their extension, but I am sure if you ask them they will be able to provide you with the necessary answers. It will also let you know whether they have good support for their extensions. As far as DW is concerned, all tools related to the CMS integration, without the use of extensions, is purely to help coding and provide a live view in the editor to show how code changes impact the design. It is not a WYSIWYG editor for modifying themes, nor does it claim to be.
Ok. I have understand of relationship between Dreamweaver with Drupal and with Themegenie.
But, what about Wordpress? Do Wordpress coding is more easy than Drupal when we make theme template in Dreamweaver code view?
WordPress and Drupal work pretty much the same way. You have 800+ files in some 80 folders. None of the files are complete web pages. Rather, the are fragments of server-side code that are assembled on the fly by the web server with content from the MySql Database. You must be able to work with code to customize either Wordpress or Drupal themes.
Ok, so what I understand - both of them (Wordpress & Drupal) need equal expertise in coding.
Actually previously I thought that probably one of them will be easier for customize theme design in DW.
Many thanks to you for your continuous answers.
I don't know if this will help, but I spent about 6 months trying to learn Drupal and finally abandoned it. It's a good program for very simple web pages and extensive community-driven sites, but trying to do anything 'outside the box' with it is very difficult. Unless you're a geek with a high income from another source, I'd give serious thought to abandoning Drupal. You can build a content-managed page with basic PHP and MySQL skills which are a lot easier to learn. Dreamweaver is a very solid framework for adding your code within its HTML
May I know please, how you have learn Drupal? From where you have got all the learning resource? Have you done an online course or you learn only from Drupal website?
I want to know, becuse I am a web designer and have little knowledge on PHP Mysql.
I have to disagree about the Drupal comments. From having to work a lot with boxed CMS frameworks recently, I would have to say from understanding, Drupal and Typo3 are probably the most robust options on the market. Drupal is not good at all for simple webpages and in fact, for simple sites I would recommend towards the likes of Wordpress and Perch. I would only recommend Drupal for websites that are robust with lots of content and need structure and organization on the backend. The other big one, Joomla I look at as a cross-breed between the two ends, but I usually end up away from it, unless there is money to invest because most quality addons/extensions/modules are paid for and not free which means even a simple site in Joomla could easily run $100-200 more in fixed costs.
As for learning Drupal, I found the curve much easier once I picked up on themes like Omega, and addons like Panels.
I learned Drupal from a couple of books. The best was an O'Reilly book on learning Drupal 6, not the Drupal 7 current release. The Drupal 6 book takes you through several scenarios and is really helpful. It should work for Drupal 7 as well.
The website is nearly useless for learning Drupal but there are lots of creative people on YouTube who document their own achievements.
I learned PHP and MySQL from a couple of Quick-Start books mostly by Larry Ullman but also others. I found PHP and MySQL logical and a pleasure to work with.
I also leanred CSS from the CSS Missing Manual book. It's not bad but CSS grows on you once you've grasped the conecept.
I realize others swear by Drupal but I just hate it. It's slow and unbelieveably cumbersome. If you're building a small site, such as one for an online store or local community group you can do just as well with PHP and the results will look much better. Simply throwing Drupal add-ons at the problema nd following their default layouts leads to ugly, utilitarian-looking sites. I realize this is changing as themes improve. I keep revisiting Drupal and hope it finally improves to the point where it's as usuable as creating your own stuff.
What you mean by simple website? Is it only HTML, CSS and Jquery with no PHP Mysql? If you mean this, then it is right – DW is enough for this or for simple PHP Mysql content management system.
But why you are saying that to build simple website, Wordpress is good over Drupal? Because what I understand, to customize theme design or to customize module/plug-in, we have to edit PHP code either we build it in Drupal or Wordpress. So, what is the reason that we will make simple website in Wordpress?
Current I am learning Drupal and Wordpress. My main headache is to make custom theme or custom module because I have little knowledge on PHP.
I respect your opinion but I am learning Drupal, Wordpress, PHP, Mysql and many more from Lynda Video Tutorial - http://www.lynda.com/Drupal-training-tutorials/186-0.html. In my opinion it is very good website for learning. It educates through step by step process video. Totally, from start to finish in details. They have also exercise files by practical examples, which you can use that as practice purpose.
Learning from video is more understandable that books, because you are seeing and hearing the step by step process whereas in books you are reading the step by step process. Learning from video is near to practical knowledge and learning from book is theoretical knowledge.
Previously I have learned all from books but now I am more eager to learn from videos. Obviously, you will not get all things from videos. Therefore, still I learned from books and only if I do not get video on that subject. But try one video tutorial, I think you will be satisfied.
There are also another video tutorial website like drupalize.me, lullabot, video2brain. I don’t think that in youtube you will get tutorial in details from start to finish, probably you will get some fragment tutorial.
However, may be your opinion will be different and I am waiting for your opinion.
Of the 3 big open source CMS frameworks, WordPress is the easiest. Drupal is the hardest. Joomla! is somewhere in between. No matter which one you choose to customize, you'll need to be able to work with PHP & MySql.
WordPress vs Drupal vs Joomla!
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