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Exporting Pro Res 422 HQ

Jan 31, 2013 11:27 PM

Tags: #pro #export #cs #apple #encode #6 #quicktime #5 #transcode #.mov #rez

I have a customer that wants his output files to be delivered as a Pro Res 422 HQ .MOV file.

 

I have given him every possible output for Quicktime that is available in the Media Encoder for PPro5 and he has rejected every one

He refuses to even look at any file that is NOT in a .MOV container.

 

Does CS6 include Pro Rez outputs?  Is there an aftermarket transcoder or plug-in that can do the job?  Any help?

 
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    Feb 1, 2013 12:48 AM   in reply to Bad Habit Pictures

    If you're on Windows, there is no (legal) solution. The ProRes encoder is only licensed for OS X.

     
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    Feb 1, 2013 12:59 AM   in reply to Bad Habit Pictures

    Out of curiosity..what were the source files?  Assumeably 4:2:2 or better.

     

    Give him what he wants. 

    Take your best file (export) to someone that can transcode to what he wants...and charge him for it.

     

    Was the deliverable specified in the contract?

     
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    Feb 1, 2013 1:55 AM   in reply to shooternz

    Hi,

     

    @Dave: No Apple Prores isn't only licenced to the MAC plattform. You will find a lot of hardware products with Prores support and also Windows software supporting it... DVS Clipster for example can write Prores on Windows and if I remember right there is even a v.0.5 Premiere Plugin from a company available - but I don't remember the name...

     

    1. We deliver Quicktime DNXHD to all customers asking for Prores and they are happy with it.

    http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNxHD

     

    2. If you realy need to deliver Prores from Windows take a look here:

    http://www.fallenempiredigital.com/blog/2012/06/06/encoding-apple-pror es-on-a-windows-pc-with-redcine-x-pro-and-ffmpeg/

     
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    Feb 1, 2013 4:01 AM   in reply to nw42

    The ProRes encoder SDK is only licensed on OS X for system use (e.g. as a Quicktime codec, which would make it available to Adobe Media Encoder as the original poster is asking). Embedded hardware renderers (e.g. on Atmos) are an entirely different subject, and pay a different license fee.

     

    There are some vendors offering ProRes encoders for Windows, but they are not using the SDK as licensed by Apple. The group behind FFMBC have reverse-engineered the codec themselves, which places them at risk of legal action (particularly in the USA where software patents apply). Adobe certainly isn't about to engage in that type of thing.

     
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    Feb 1, 2013 11:00 AM   in reply to Dave Merchant

    Hi Dave,

     

    but the "hardware recorder" have a valid licence - for sure they don't use the Apple SDK because there is no MAC OS to run it on ;-)

     

    "The group behind FFMBC have reverse-engineered the codec themselves, which places them at risk of legal action (particularly in the USA where software patents apply)."

     

    If you plan to incorporate this into 2000 NLE's or plan to sell software with Prores support you better get a licence.

    If you are a individual or small company using ffmpeg to render some Prores files...

    If you just live you are placed at risk of legal action esp. if software patents apply.

     

    "Adobe certainly isn't about to engage in that type of thing."

    How does this help? What is adobe about to engage? Are they offering a solution to the problem or do they only don't suggest the passengers of the Titanic to take a liveboat because there isn't a captain on board to ensure secure operation?

     

    Lot's of questions and still not a good answer for Premiere on Windows users to export Prores...

     
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    Feb 1, 2013 12:48 PM   in reply to nw42

    If you want ProRes exports on Windows, you need to talk to Apple.  Until then, you will either need to find someone who has a Mac, or export something else.

     

    Personally, I'm in favor of "something else".  The UT codec is very usable on both platforms, and free.

     

    http://umezawa.dyndns.info/archive/utvideo/

     
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    Feb 1, 2013 1:30 PM   in reply to Jim Simon

    Personally, I'm in favor of "something else".  The UT codec is very usable on both platforms, and free.

     

    The commercial reality Jim is that the OP has a client that wants ...what he wants.

     

    The OP needs to solve the clients "wants" without compromise.

     

     

    @Bad Habit

     

    Take a look at this thread  and see if it is a solution.

     

    http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?297681-Multi-encoder-transcod er-for-PC-Windows-systems

     
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    May 31, 2013 10:36 AM   in reply to shooternz

    You guys sound like you understand prores.

     

    I'm exporting a prores 422(hq) cut 2 and half hours long to a post house.

    I have exported one version of the cut at 25fps.

     

    I am now trying to export another but this keeps exporting at 24.64fps.

     

    Now here is the wierd thing.

     

    When I import back inot premiere it reads as 25fps, and matches the cut exactly.

     

    I'm confused.

     

    Any ideas?

     

    Cheers

     

    Chris

     
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    May 31, 2013 10:49 AM   in reply to chrispyteggal

    Hi Chris,

     

    Where do you see 24.64fps, in QuickTime player? From what I've seen in recent posts, those numbers are not at all reliable and the source of much hair-pulling for editors.

     

    Jeff Pulera

    Safe Harbor

     
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    May 31, 2013 10:53 AM   in reply to SAFEHARBOR11

    Jeff,

    Here is the thread regarding Chris' problem:

    25fps seq with 25fps footage exporting at 24.64fps?

    http://forums.adobe.com/thread/1223228?tstart=0

     
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    May 31, 2013 11:17 AM   in reply to SAFEHARBOR11

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    Apr 17, 2014 8:46 AM   in reply to Bad Habit Pictures

    For premiere on windows for export to prores check out Cinemartin Plin Plugin

     
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