Hi everybody!
A short intro to understand the problem: I'm working on a commemorative journal for a dinner that people are submitting text based ads to little by little. The types of ads are divided into different chapters so I made different master page spreads for each section. The ads need to be in alphabetical order so as they come in, I add new pages into the layout and place the ad text into the text box.
Here is the basic structure of my master spreads: there is a text box on each side of the spread that contains an anchored object. I'm using that object as a separator to separate between the ad text and the name of the person who placed the ad. When I insert the ad text, I'm releasing the text box master object and I'm inserting and formatting the text.
Here's the problem: when I add pages to the layout and the pages already in my layout shuffle, in some instances the text box with the anchored object re-appears behind what I've already done through the text (the anchored object is a dotted line so there ends up being a dotted line through the middle of the text). For example, if I have master page A applied to page 3 (right side of spread), when I add a page before 3 (making page 3 into page 4 and a left side of spread), the master object text box containing the anchored object appears behind the one that was the original master object that I released and inserted text into.
I did some experimenting and I found that this only happens when I add an odd number of pages. When I add an even number of pages, the additional master page object doesn’t appear. Also, if I add one page after adding a page, the extra master object disappears. I'm assuming that this is because when I add an odd amount of pages the spread with my text switches sides and the master object from the other side of the spread is appearing. Also, if I manually remove the new master object that appears, a new master object does not appear if I shuffle it again.
Solutions I came up with were either just manually going through the document at the end of the project and removing the extra master objects or applying a white background to the text box so that it would the block the new master object that appears. However, I think there has to be a better solution would be more automatic, leaving less room for human error and being less sloppy that giving white backgrounds to all the text boxes.
In short, I think the problem is that when my pages are being switched to the opposite side of the spread it is adding the master objects of the side of the spread it switched to. So would there be a way to prevent that from happening?
Looking forward to what you guys think.
In short, I think the problem is that when my pages are being switched to the opposite side of the spread it is adding the master objects of the side of the spread it switched to. So would there be a way to prevent that from happening?
That is correct behavior. You could stop using master page objects. Instead, make your anchored frames into a snippet or a library object so that you can drag and drop the thing onto a fresh page for that next arriving ad. I would make the master pages show only grid lines and margin and column guides.
If in CS6, and you are on the master pages, and you designate the selected frame as Primary Text frame, then that might not happen (if I understand your description, which I sorta don't)
Thanks Peter (I hope that comment wasn't tongue in cheek
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Michael, the reason I'm using text boxes on the master page is because all the ads are going to be in the same positions on the page and its much easier to have the text box in the right place every time withthout having to cut and paste anything or dragging snippets onto the layout every time I add a page.
I'm not sure that the primary text frame option would work because there is no official hierarchy to the ads on the page and also, I'm not threading my text boxes because each ad requires its own formatting and I also need to keep moving them around to keep the ad in alphabetical order.
Thanks for the ideas guys.
What format are the ads? Do you make them, or are they submitted as some sort of object?
My inclination would be to lose the master frames and set up a grid of guides instead so you can drag ads around and snap to the guides. I'd make every ad a single object of some sort -- PDF, or a single page from a .indd file sized the same as the ad -- no text frames at all. Do you do any sort of indexing of these ads that requires text tagging?
Short update:
I noticed that sometimes the after deleting the new master page object that appears, when the page get shuffled, the master object wont reappear. I'm not sure if I'm right about this but if I am, at least I'll only have to remove the xtra anchored object once. unless I want to use the option of giving those text boxes a solid background on the master page.
Let me know if you think of something else. Thanks for your help guys!
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