Can you not define two variables based on two paragraph styles--one for the first line of chapter title, one for the second line of chapter title and put them in the header? If the second isn't used it won't display.

Mike

I think it might work with InDesign CS6's text frame Auto Size feature and a combination of techniques mentioned above. Just a wild stab, didn't try to test.

HTH

Regards,

Peter

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Peter Spier wrote:

 

That's correct. The differnce, though is you only need to include one paragaph style if you use the forced break approach, which makes things a bit simple in building the TOC.

 

To get your second line indent, add that amount as a left indent to the pargarph style, then add the same amount as a negative to the first line. This is called a hanging indent.

cc2545 wrote:

I have a Running Header that is using my style from my Chapter Name in my book. In the chapter name on the page, I've used a soft return. Now my Running Header only shows half of the chapter name because I used a soft return in the title on the page.

That is contrary to my experiences so far, so I checked with InDesign CS4, CS5, and CS6. This is the behavior I remembered: a soft return gets converted to a regular space. There is no difference between a Paragraph style (left header) and a Character style (right header).

However ...

If I change the type from "First on Page" to "Last on Page", soft returns are suddenly discarded!

(This is on my Mac; does Windows show the same erratic behavior re: Soft Returns?)

No amount of resizing the frame ever makes parts of the header invisible. If the text frame is too small, the header just gets crunched up to fit; it'll never wrap to a second line. Also, since soft returns aren't picked up, you will never get a "second line" that way either.

So it's not what the OP is experiencing.

I would like to see a screenshot from a page showing both chapter title and the resulting header, with Invisible Characters on.

> As you said, the forced break was converted to a space when using first on page, but it was just dropped entirely when using last.

Submitted as Bug. It's potentially harmful, as it is an unexplainable and unnecessary random difference when you toggle from First to Last on Page.

cc2545, unfortunately this issue seems unrelated to yours. Care to show a screenshot? Perhaps there is something else in your file that messes up things for you.