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Separate to two layers

Feb 4, 2013 5:11 AM

Using Illustrator CS6

Working with an AI file

 

screenshot6.png

 

Now I want to change the black color to red. I guess I first have to separate the black symbol from the white background into two layers? How do I achive that?

 

Thanks in advance!

 
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    Feb 4, 2013 5:45 AM   in reply to tanumshede

    tanumshede,

     

    I believe the artwork is a raster image; it is possible to see it directly in the Layers panel if you click the arrow pointing to the image and Layer 1, it will probably be specified as Image.

     

    Illy sees raster artwork as do the rest of us: a bunch of coloured (and in some cases transparent) pixels.

     

    If you wish to change it into vector artwork, you may use Live Trace with Ignore White. That should give you some (9) black paths, a few of them (2) compound, and no white.

     

    After that, you can group/ungroup/whatever, and change to red.

     

    Or you may do the raster work in Photoshop or another application suited foworking with raster.

     
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    Feb 4, 2013 5:44 AM   in reply to tanumshede

    In case it is already traced: expand it and delete the white parts - select with the magic wand

     
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    Feb 4, 2013 2:20 PM   in reply to tanumshede

    Take the magic wand tool, click on the white parts of the graphic. Delete. Teh black parts should remain. Then color in red.

     
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    Feb 4, 2013 2:23 PM   in reply to tanumshede

    tanumshede,

     

    The fill square shows a question mark

     

    That is because you have both white and black paths.

     

    As Monika says in post #2, you should delete the white paths.

     

    You may select one of the white paths (just click one o the white areas (you may need to Ungroup), then use the dropdown Select>Same>Fill Color to select all white paths and delete them in one go. After that you can change the black ones to red in a similar manner.

     

    I thought it was possible to Ignore White in the Live Trace and avoid the white paths altogether.

     

    Edit: Hi Monika.

     
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    Feb 4, 2013 3:16 PM   in reply to Jacob Bugge

    I thought it was possible to Ignore White in the Live Trace and avoid the white paths altogether.

    It is, but you have to remember to check it every time, at least for most presets.

    I have also found Ingnore White not to be entirely reliable even if you do check it.

     

    I constantly bewail the demise of Streamline. How much easier it was to edit Steamline’s nice orderly stacks than Live Trace’s compounds.

    Usually when you release a LiveTrace compound the resulting stack is put together in a strangely illogical way.

    I was editing a scan of a mermaid just today and it took me ages to get things organized for colouring.

    Picture 1.png

    And no, this hasn’t got anything to do with that place that serves bad coffee.

     
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    Feb 4, 2013 3:28 PM   in reply to Steve Fairbairn

    Thank you for the confirmation (including its limitation), Steve.

     

    She seems to have the three fingers and thumb hand.

     
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    Feb 4, 2013 5:13 PM   in reply to Jacob Bugge

    Jacob Bugge wrote:

    She seems to have the three fingers and thumb hand.

    Thus proving that, despite her very real appearance, she's a cartoon character. Though she lacks white gloves.

     
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    Feb 5, 2013 2:42 AM   in reply to Jacob Bugge

    She seems to have the three fingers and thumb hand.

    That’s just the way she came. I think she’s about 15th century and Disney never thought an original thought in his life.

     

    Back to the point: I dislike unnecessary duplicate paths so I traced with Ignore White checked (the Lettering preset does this automatically).

    After expanding I released the compound and ungrouped. Then coloured the outermost path sky-blue-pink and sent it to the back.

    Things were still a bit chaotic though with bits behind other bits that shouldn’t have been. This required quite a bit of X-ing and F-ing.

    I don’t follow the logic behind Live Trace’s machinations – don’t believe there is any.

     

    Hi Peter.

     
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    Feb 5, 2013 3:56 AM   in reply to Steve Fairbairn

    Hi, Steve,

    I think she’s about 15th century

    And I first saw her about 500 years ago.

    Disney never thought an original thought in his life.

    Yeah, but it's always about the money. Sheesh.

     
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    Feb 5, 2013 4:01 AM   in reply to tromboniator

    Yeah, but it's always about the money. Sheesh.

    It’s all about taking credit for other people’s work.

    Did you ever see the pornographic spoofs by the Disney artist who “escaped”?

    They were much better than anything that Disney could ever have imagined.

     
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    Feb 5, 2013 4:33 AM   in reply to Steve Fairbairn

    Nope, haven't seen 'em (yet), but I'm sure you're right.

     

    Take the credit, take the money.

     
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    Feb 15, 2013 3:07 AM   in reply to tanumshede

    I guess you have to expand your trace first before using the magic wand.

     
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