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Modify choices are grayed out?

Feb 5, 2013 6:52 PM

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2/5/2013 Suddenly I can not longer choose expand, contract, smooth or feather under modify, only border.  How can I fix this, and why did it happen?

Thanks, Pat

 
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    Feb 5, 2013 7:04 PM   in reply to Armadilla

    What program, OS, and file type?  Many tools only work in RGB 8 bit.

     
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    Feb 5, 2013 7:24 PM   in reply to Armadilla

    On a Mac start PS and immediatley hold down cmd option shift keys.  If fast enough you will get a reset window.

     
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    Feb 5, 2013 8:39 PM   in reply to Armadilla

    I hate to ask something very basic, but do you have a selection made first?

     

    Please take a screenshot of your entire screen; perhaps something will become obvious if others can look at what you're seeing.

     

    -Noel

     
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    Feb 6, 2013 5:40 AM   in reply to Armadilla

    Armadilla wrote:

     

    2/5/2013 Suddenly I can not longer choose expand, contract, smooth or feather under modify, only border.  How can I fix this, and why did it happen?

    Thanks, Pat

     

    That's a normal (weird) limitation of Photoshop when the entire canvas is selected.

     
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  • Noel Carboni
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    Feb 6, 2013 9:24 AM   in reply to conroy

    Now it's clear what you're doing, I can say that it was something that was specifically changed between Photoshop CS3 and CS4 if I remember correctly.  In Photoshop CS3 one used to be able to select all, then contract the selection, and that made perfect sense to me.

     

    I even asked Chris Cox about it once here on the forum, and he implied he had fixed it in Photoshop CS3 but the change was reverted on purpose in CS4.

     

    Personally I find it to work wrong now, but have learned not to expect it to work.  apparently inertia is more important than sensible operation to Adobe's decision makers.

     

    -Noel

     
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    Feb 6, 2013 1:46 PM   in reply to Armadilla

    You're saying that with Photoshop CS4 you have been able to Select - All, then the Select - Modify - Contract and the others were available?  I've not seen that.

     

    Keep in mind those menu entries ARE available and work if you have anything but the entire image selected.

     

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    Apr 10, 2013 5:50 PM   in reply to Armadilla

    So I'm afraid I still have major confusion. I have the same exact problem that you have, except that I'm not doing anything different this time than I always have.

     

    10.6.8, CS4, 8-bit RGB

     

    I'm creating a frame for the underlying image. I create a new layer, Select All, Select -> Modify -> Contract. No different than every other time in the last 30 minutes. I'm creating several sizes of image and want to create identical frames for them.

     

    Out of the blue the Modify options are all grayed out, except "Border" which isn't what I want, and I don't know what that does anyway.

     

    Can someone shed light?

     
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    Apr 10, 2013 8:24 PM   in reply to mirlac

    It's expected behavior that if the selection goes all the way to all the edges of the visible canvas, fully selecting all pixels, you will not be able to Contract the selection, since it does not contract away from the edge.  If somehow even one pixel of the selection did not go to the very edge, or was not fully selected, then you can Contract the selection.  It's really as simple as that. 

     

    Not that I agree that this behavior is the most useful possible implementation.  It was right in Photoshop CS3, I believe.

     

    Mirlac, I'm guessing you had a non-zero Feather option set.  With that setting, selecting around the entire canvas with e.g., the Rectangular Marquee Selection Tool would allow you to Contract, as all pixels are not fully selected all the way to the edges of the document.

     

    -Noel

     
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