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Too many anchor points, and simplify messes up the pic

Feb 8, 2013 6:47 AM

I'm making a picture and I have a problem - I need a maximum of 2000 anchor points, and I have about 11k.

 

Seems like I have a lot of unnecessary points, but when I try to simplify the picture gets all messed up. Any other way to fix this?

 

Here's part of the picture, you can clearly see that a lot of the points don't have to be there..

 

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b283/appelsinbrus/anchorpoints_zps86311cb2.png

 
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    Feb 8, 2013 7:00 AM   in reply to larsjorgen

    Lars Jørgen,

     

    What went before what we see, and can you still go back?

     
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    Feb 8, 2013 7:30 AM   in reply to larsjorgen

    ...Seems like I have a lot of unnecessary points...

    That's the inherent problem with autotracing; you don't really get "resolution-independence." You just swap one kind of scaleable ugliness for another. Autotracing is a cheap trick that yields amateruish results, and is to be avoided, except in appropriate special cases.

     

    Based on your screenshot, you can probably further reduce the number of anchorPoints somewhat by applying the Merge Pathfinder.

     

    JET

     
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    Feb 8, 2013 7:35 AM   in reply to larsjorgen

    Lars Jørgen,

     

    Obviously, if you use Object>Path>Simplify, you can set the Curve Precision, and there are other options, but there is a limit to the reduction in number, and 11 > 2 is rather significant.

     

    I believe this is a tough one, simply because of the sheer number of small bits and pieces.

     

    If it all started with Live Trace, you may try to work with the settings in a new tracing.

     

    Edit: Hi James.

     
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    Feb 8, 2013 8:03 AM   in reply to larsjorgen

    Share it somewhere and let me try that for you.

     

    ~MBMSumraat

     
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    Feb 8, 2013 8:14 AM   in reply to larsjorgen

    Show us what the whole heart looks like.

    Maybe you (or we) are making mountains out of molehills but we can’t tell without seeing the whole problem.

     
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    Feb 8, 2013 10:05 AM   in reply to larsjorgen

    Just a thought;

     

    It looks as if you have a lot of areas with the same color inside itself (see circled area in pic below). If you go through each color one at a time (Select > Same Color), then use Combine, in the Pathfinder window, does that get rid of a lot of the excess points for you? If so, perhaps you wouldn't have to use simplify at too extreme a setting to get down to you maximum points target.

     

    --OB

     

    Same Color.jpg

     
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    Feb 8, 2013 2:20 PM   in reply to larsjorgen

    Lars Jørgen,

     

    Regardless of version, you should be able to:

     

    1) Select one of the red paths, and Select>Same>Fill Color,

    2) Pathfinder>Unite/Add to shape area (you may need to press Alt/Option to get simple paths; if so, you will get a warning about it);

    3) Ungroup if desired.

     

    That should combine all sets of overlapping paths of that colour into single paths, some of which may be Compound Paths, with all unnecessary segments and their Anchor Points removed.

     

    Edit: If you use British English in the first sentence, you may spell it out without its getting caught by the nanny filter.

     
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    Feb 8, 2013 3:11 PM   in reply to larsjorgen

    I would like to see what it is that you are trying to trace (the original).

    There may well be a better way of doing the job than automatic tracing.

     
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    Feb 9, 2013 4:15 AM   in reply to Steve Fairbairn

    steve fairbairn wrote:

     

    There may well be a better way of doing the job than automatic tracing.

     

    Isn't there always?

     
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    Feb 9, 2013 5:02 AM   in reply to larsjorgen

    It looks as if you have a lot of areas with the same color inside itself...

    And/or different colors hidden by overlaps.--which is exactly why I said the Merge Pathfinder will probably reduce the number of anchors. There is no need to tediously select objects of same color. Merge unions adjacent areas of same color and removes hidden areas of overlap in one move.

     

    Photo of a heart...

     

    That could be anything from a valentine to a medical procedure photo. You need to show what you're working with.

     

    This picture project is such a huge pain in the *ss...

    So is trying to help someone, blind.

     

    JET

     
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    Feb 9, 2013 5:40 AM   in reply to [scott w]

    Isn't there always?

    Usually, but sometimes a very rough trace can give unexpected life to a boring original.

     
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