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Disconnected Pages Inserted when Converting from FrameMaker 9 to 11

Feb 12, 2013 11:33 AM

There appears to be a bug in many of our documents when converting from Frame 9 to 11.


  1. Inadvertently, there are disconnected pages that have been inserted into chapters, usually somewhere on the last few pages of a chapter. I know what disconnected pages are, and how they are inserted, but they are not in our Frame 9 docs. The disconnected pages only appeared after we converted to FrameMaker 11. I can tell they are disconnected because I see the dark black line at the bottom of the page and when I did CONTROL - A the flow stopped on the last or second to last page as if a disconnected page was inserted.
  2. Our Heading 1 is setup to start at the top of a new page and randomly does not now in FrameMaker 11. We never had this issue in Frame 9.
    We have reimported the paragraph styles from the template (that works) tried retagging, etc. but the Heading 1 will not go to a new page.
  3. If a file contains the #2 Heading 1 issue,  then the Special > Page Break does not work as well on that same file.


We have hundreds of docs we are currently working on and are seriously considering going back to 9 temporarily if there is a bug. Unfortunately we have already started to convert many of our docs up to Frame 11.


Has anyone else experienced this?


I was looking at MIF2go to perhaps remove what might be corrupted in our files if that is what is hapening but don't want to take the time and $$ to do that if we find out it may be a bug and not on our end.


I have been working in Frame since version 1 and have never seen anything like this happen, so that is why I am thinking it may be a bug in Frame 11 or in the conversion up to 11?


Thank you so much for your help.



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    Feb 12, 2013 12:19 PM   in reply to cynthiarudy

    Have you tried saving one of the files with the disconnected pages as MIF from FM9 and then opening that in FM11?


    I haven't seen nor heard of this sort of issue with FM11 (yet) so it does seem rather odd. Is there anything complex about your document setups, i.e. more than one flow?


    Are you using Master Page Mapping to apply some page layouts?


    The Heading1's that do not start at the top of a page, are they showing as having overrides in the status bar (i.e. your paragraph definition for Heading1 is to start at the Top of Page, but now they show as Anywhere in the Designer)?


    Can you please elaborate on #3 - Page Break not working as well? This is an override mechanism. So if this was used to format the layout and you imported formats from the template, you may have cleared these overrides.

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    Feb 12, 2013 12:36 PM   in reply to Arnis Gubins

    I'd follow Arnis's lead, but when moving from one FM file format to

    another.... ALWAYS safe as MIF in the higher numbered version. That's

    really the only way you can verify that stray characters and such are

    removed by parsing process.


    And MIF2GO is great for batch processing large numbers of files and





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    Feb 13, 2013 7:26 PM   in reply to cynthiarudy

    cynthiarudy wrote:


    The Heading1's still say top of page so that did not change but they just won't behave. Its very odd.



    Cynthia, can you explain a bit more by what you mean that they "don't behave"?


    If you have a truly disconnected page, your content should be flowing around that page, i.e. adding more will skip the disconnected page.


    Another way to test the conversion is to open both versions of FM. In FM11 use the FM9 file as a template (File > New) to get a "blank" document. In FM9, use the ctrl+A to select all in the flow and then copy & paste into the "new" FM11 document. There shouldn't be any disconnects that way.

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    Feb 14, 2013 8:58 AM   in reply to cynthiarudy

    I could also imagine another cause.

    A year ago I copied accidentally the text frame of the main text flow on a certain page and pasted it right back.

    It appeared as if there would be no change although there were two text frames with identical content on top of each other.

    I had noticed that the text did not move.

    You could test this, if you save your file and then delete the text frame of your disconnected page. If nothing happens, then you had two text frames on top of each other.

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    Feb 15, 2013 10:44 AM   in reply to cynthiarudy



    I've sent you a private message with info on where to send the example.

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    Feb 15, 2013 12:38 PM   in reply to cynthiarudy

    You should get an email notification from the Forums that you have a new Private Message. You have to log in and go to the "Your Stuff" link near the top & right side of the banner. There's a link to the Private Messages there.


    I've also just sent a direct email to you.

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    Feb 21, 2013 9:00 PM   in reply to cynthiarudy

    Just so it's not misunderstood that this had something to do with the Special > Add Disconnected Pages option, the template files had the Autoconnect setting turned off for the main flow on some Master Pages. That's why trying to force the Header1 to a new page was failing, since there was nothing to connect to, hence it couldn't jump to a new page.

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