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How do I get the stoke to be on the outside?

Feb 28, 2013 1:54 PM

Tags: #stroke #outside

I'm trying to follow this tutorial (beginner) http://vector.tutsplus.com/tutorials/tools-tips/quick-tip-create-a-set -of-glowing-buttons-in-adobe-illustrator/ and I don't know how to get the stroke around the blue circle, to be on the outside rather than in the middle? It should say "Stroke---(square with blue)---7 pt---Outside" in Apperance, but mine doesn't say Outside.

 

Any help people could give me would be great. From what I can tell, none of the current forums answer this specific question and I've searched around online too.

 

 
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    Feb 28, 2013 1:57 PM   in reply to 01123581321345589144

    Snap_001.png

     

    There are buttons on the Stroke Panel.

     
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    Feb 28, 2013 2:14 PM   in reply to 01123581321345589144

    Inside and Outside only work on closed paths (because an open path doesn’t have an inside or an outside).

     
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    Feb 28, 2013 4:38 PM   in reply to 01123581321345589144

    Not a stupid question at all. No one knows until they read it or are told about it.

     
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    Mar 1, 2013 5:24 AM   in reply to Steve Fairbairn

    Inside and Outside only work on closed paths (because an open path doesn’t have an inside or an outside).

    Doesn't matter. An open path still has a direction. This feature should have been designed to work on open paths as well as closed paths. Just another half-baked feature.

     

    JET

     
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    Mar 1, 2013 6:04 AM   in reply to JETalmage

    Sorry James, I don’t follow.

    Think of a U-shaped path. How do you define its inside or outside?

    O.k. you can give it a fill like a two-dimensional mug of beer, so I suppose the fill is on the inside of the object, or so to speak.

    But what about a wavy path? Its fill would be on both sides. An ineffiecient container for flat beer and difficult to say which side is its in- or outside.

    I fail to see how the path’s direction could have anything to do with it.

    Picture 3.png

     
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    Mar 1, 2013 6:19 AM   in reply to Steve Fairbairn

    well it wouldn't be the inside or outside, but the feature could make the stroke run to one side or the other of the path, depending on its direction

     
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    Mar 1, 2013 6:24 AM   in reply to dougofakkad

    .. or you cloud just move the open path so the stroke falls where you want it.

     
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    Mar 1, 2013 6:41 AM   in reply to [scott w]

    you could just do that with a closed path too, if that was all you wanted from it.

     
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    Mar 1, 2013 6:42 AM   in reply to dougofakkad

    Nope. Can't do that with a closed path, expecially if there's a fill. Well, not unless you use an ofset effect, or something.

     
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    Mar 1, 2013 7:00 AM   in reply to [scott w]

    Here’s to James :-)

    double-beer.jpg

    (The fill on the left is so light that the froth sinks to the bottom – or else James gets his trousers wet.

    ‘I cannot be positive which.’ – (Belloc, The Yak.)

     
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    Mar 1, 2013 10:25 AM   in reply to Steve Fairbairn

    InDesign is one example that shows how a left-or-right-according-to-path-direction may work with open stroked paths.

     

    I would use that feature pretty often.

     
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    Mar 1, 2013 10:33 AM   in reply to Steve Fairbairn

    steve fairbairn wrote:

     

    Here’s to James :-)

    double-beer.jpg

    (The fill on the left is so light that the froth sinks to the bottom – or else James gets his trousers wet.

    ‘I cannot be positive which.’ – (Belloc, The Yak.)

    Nope. The one on the left is;

     

    Olde Frothingslosh

    "The Stale Pale Ale with the Foam on the Bottom!"

     
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    Mar 1, 2013 10:55 AM   in reply to OldBob1957

    Nice one Bob :-)

     

    To my way of thinking the paths should look like this:

    Picture 8.png

    The one on the left has a normal centred stroke.

    The one in the middle has its path aligned to the outside. It doubles back on itself and goes round the ends of the path. Hence its apparent double thickness.

    The one on the right has its stroke aligned to the inside. It doesn’t show because it is ‘inside’ the path.

     
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    Mar 1, 2013 2:42 PM   in reply to Steve Fairbairn

    While it's not implemented I would just use the width tool.

     
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