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1. SusanSherman,

Mar 19, 2013 7:27 AM in reply to it@caotti.net

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If the changes are minor and few, as you say, I would recommend using Acrobat instead of InDesign. The fonts should print properly as they are commonly available.

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2. it@caotti.net,

Mar 19, 2013 7:30 AM in reply to SusanSherman

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I had to add a few graphics as well. I wasn't aware you could do that in Acrobat.

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3. Ellis home,

Mar 19, 2013 7:34 AM in reply to it@caotti.net

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In Find Font, do you see Arial listed in Replace With/Font Family? Is Change All grayed out too. That's the one you need to make the changes.

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4. it@caotti.net,

Mar 19, 2013 10:33 AM in reply to Ellis home

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Yes, both Arial and Times New Roman are listed in Find Font as well as in Replace With/Font Family and Change All is grayed out.

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5. Ellis home,

Mar 19, 2013 10:43 AM in reply to it@caotti.net

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Can you post a screenshot of your Find Font screen?

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6. it@caotti.net,

Mar 19, 2013 12:15 PM in reply to Ellis home

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7. Peter Spier,

Mar 19, 2013 1:35 PM in reply to it@caotti.net

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You cannot change the fonts in a placed graphic from within ID.

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8. Ellis home,

Mar 19, 2013 2:03 PM in reply to it@caotti.net

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What happens when you select (click) the Arial with with he warning sign? Does it remain grayed out? If the fonts are part of the image, as Peter says, you'll have to make the changes in the original program it was generated with.

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9. Peter Spier,

Mar 19, 2013 2:07 PM in reply to Ellis home

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The screen shot shows all the missing fonts are in graphics....

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10. Ellis home,

Mar 19, 2013 2:11 PM in reply to Peter Spier

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What puzzles me is that ID was able to "see" the missing fonts somewhere in the document?

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11. Peter Spier,

Mar 19, 2013 2:51 PM in reply to Ellis home

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I don't claim to know the details of how ID see the information, but the fonts used, and the graphical content, are all exposed in placed content.

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12. Steve Werner,

Mar 19, 2013 3:14 PM in reply to Peter Spier

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It's relatively easy to see the fonts used when inside a PDF file. If you have Acrobat Pro, choose File > Properties > Fonts, and you'll see a list and also see how the font is stored. InDesign can also read this information. It would need to know it so it can print or export a placed PDF file.

If you have Acrobat Pro, you can also individually edit blocks of text and change the fonts. However, there is no way to search and replace fonts like InDesign can do with the Find Font dialog.

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13. MikeWenzloff,

Mar 19, 2013 4:25 PM in reply to it@caotti.net

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You might be able to embed these fonts properly in the PDF. It isn't always successful, but in Preflight, open the fixups section and use the selection as in the screen shot. Then relink/replace the PDF in ID.

Mike

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14. it@caotti.net,

Mar 20, 2013 5:11 AM in reply to Ellis home

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Yes, they remain grayed out. The fonts are in a PDF placed in InDesign. I suspected I couldn't fix it from InDesign, but I just wanted to be sure there wasn't a way I didn't know about. I also thought there might possibly be a way to fix it from Acrobat. I'm not sure they have the original document that generated the PDF.

Thanks.

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15. it@caotti.net,

Mar 20, 2013 5:12 AM in reply to Peter Spier

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Yes, I thought I mentioned the fonts were in a PDF within InDesign.

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16. it@caotti.net,

Mar 20, 2013 5:13 AM in reply to Ellis home

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Yes, that is weird that InDesign couldn't find very common fonts embedded in the PDF. I thought most programs that can generate a PDF would embed the fonts by default.

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17. it@caotti.net,

Mar 20, 2013 5:15 AM in reply to Steve Werner

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Thanks very much. I'll try that.

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18. Dov Isaacs,

Mar 20, 2013 5:47 AM in reply to it@caotti.net

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The problem is not as simple as you may think. There are many variations of the Arial (and similar) fonts and many variations in which the various producers of PDF files (Adobe and others) reference fonts from within PDF files. In order to either embed fonts after the fact or even use a host-font equivalent for non-embedded fonts, the match needs to be exact. That may be the issue here.

- Dov

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19. David Dilling,

Mar 21, 2013 12:46 AM in reply to it@caotti.net

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As you see, it would have been easier and certainly safer to ask the customer to send you a proper PDF again, with the fonts embedded. I would encourage you to ask them to "preflight" their work before they export and before they send to other parties in the workflow.

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