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Shift or Adjust All Pages/Content for Print

Mar 21, 2013 11:17 AM

Tags: #export #printing #layout #adjust #shift

Is there a way to shift all content in an entire publication by specified amounts, from one central location or command - as a temporary "effect"?

 

I work with a document containing a set of labels (@70) that print the variable, b&w text portions of products onto otherwise pre-printed labels (color background images and logos).

I export the document to PDF for printing the labels, because the production crew that prints the labels on demand doesn't have access to InDesign (nor do I wish to teach them to use InDesign). So I'm actually printing from the PDF, but nevertheless all the content therefore has to be shifted in InDesign.

When printing, the printer always prints off by @ 1/16" in one or more dimensions. (Changes with the weather, too; or maybe with wear on the printer.) This printer does not have functionality in its driver to shift the page images.

(Getting a different printer is not an answer. We have to have certain printers because they set the ink hot enough to make it stick to the labels, but are still affordable enough. Besides, every printer ends up having its quirks - even our larger printer that is the exact same as those used by Kinkos for more routine color printing.)

 

Given the quirks printers always have, I'd be sorely surprised if InDesign doesn't offer some functionality to easily allow shifting of all content before printing, exporting to PDF, or other purposes; but I can't find any sign of such a feature. This would be a useful feature, Adobe folks (hint, hint ).

 

My prior solution for smaller label sets I've created in InDesign, is to create a new layer, copy all content, including those on master pages, and then shift that content, thereby maintaining an exact, true layout for future needs, too. I really don't want to do this for 70 labels, though; plus it'd be nice to not have the worry of potentially creating out-of-sync content between the different layers.

I see Liquid Layouts, but I don't think that'll accomplish what I need any better. I need the page to stay the same size with the content in a slightly different place on it, not to change sizes. Can Liquid Layouts be made to work anyway? It could at least keep the content synced.

 
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    Mar 21, 2013 11:55 AM   in reply to MJFarmgirl

    I'd be sorely surprised if InDesign doesn't offer some functionality to easily allow shifting of all content before printing, exporting to PDF, or other purposes; but I can't find any sign of such a feature. This would be a useful feature, Adobe folks (hint, hint ).

     

    You might be looking for Layout -> Layout Adjustment. If all of your objects are snapped to guides, and then you turn Layout Adjustment on, and then change your paper size, then Layout Adjustment will (try to) nudge everything around automatically to fit.

     
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    Mar 21, 2013 12:02 PM   in reply to MJFarmgirl

    I tried to dig up some links for  you re: InDesign's excellent support for automation in Javascript, but it seems like recent changes to Adobe help resources have caused link breakage, e.g. what should have been a link to the CS5 Scripting Guide was actually a page about how cool InDesign CS6 is going to be. In Turkish. You don't read Turkish, do you?

     

    If not, forums regular Jongware has a bunch of really useful Javascript reference material publicly available in a variety of formats.You may want to pay a visit to the InDesign Scripting Forum if you are interested in that kind of thing.

     
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    Mar 21, 2013 12:54 PM   in reply to MJFarmgirl

    It's not just page size cahnges that can be accomplished with Layout Adjustment. It works with margin changes, too, as long as everything is snapped to the margins.

     

    But in my opinion this is a fool's errand. You said ytourself that the shift varies from run to run, and I bet it changes from sheet to sheet in the same run. That's normal for this class of printer which has postioning tolerances typically of +/- 1/16 inch in any direction. The newer the printer the tighter the postion will be, but it will never match the results from a press. You may also be contending with shifts in the die-cutting or sheet trimming of your label sheets. Best you can hope for is to position for an "average" sheet, then design with a tolerance in the layout that can accomodate shifting during output without going off the edge.

     
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