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scale stroke and effects

Mar 30, 2013 11:41 PM

When I scale my artwork I have scale strokes and effects checked but the effects dont appear to be scaling. They look as though they arent even there at all after the scale.  Am i missing something?

 
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    Mar 31, 2013 2:27 AM   in reply to Arrakis

    Arrakis,

     

    Does it (not) happen when you scale both up and down? If only the latter, it is conceivable that it is an ill conceived (non) effect of having Align to Pixel Grid on (there are two (un)ticking options in the Transform panel, both of which should be used).

     
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    Mar 31, 2013 3:44 AM   in reply to Arrakis

    Arrakis,

     

    The setting Align to Pixel Grid (which is the default  for certain document types that are meant for screen, web, and similar uses) moves things round so that the (appearance of) objects/effects/whatever are contained within areas with boundaries that have integer point/pixel values on the Artboard. The setting may be turned on and off in the Transform panel through two options, for selected/existing objects and for future objects.

     
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    Mar 31, 2013 5:27 AM   in reply to Arrakis

    VERSION?

     

    JET

     
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    Mar 31, 2013 2:26 PM   in reply to Arrakis

    I will ponder over it, Arrakis (half an hour till midnight here according to the silly summer time, one hour more than real time).

     

    I hope someone else will, too.

     

    Someone?

     
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    Mar 31, 2013 2:52 PM   in reply to Arrakis

    You might want to show us a screenshot of your art (appearance panel and layer panel visible) before and after scaling.

     
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    Mar 31, 2013 3:36 PM   in reply to Arrakis

    Arrakis,

     

    And/or describe the artwork (simple objects or what).

     
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    Apr 1, 2013 11:36 AM   in reply to Arrakis

    Still pondering.

     

    Someone else?

     
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    Apr 1, 2013 12:42 PM   in reply to Arrakis

    The Scale Strokes and Effects option is a misleading term because the option only respects some effects. Photoshop effects like Gaussian Blur are disrespected.

     

    One workaround would be to scale with the Transform effect, another would be to use symbols and scale them instead of common path objects.

     

    The most outstanding way is using a somewhat hidden command that is located in the Navigator palette menu: Unconditionally Scale Everything

     
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    Apr 2, 2013 3:39 PM   in reply to Arrakis

    Sorry, but I don't know what Kurt is talking about.

     
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    Apr 3, 2013 3:21 AM   in reply to Arrakis

    Like Kurt pointed out, Photoshop effects (that are pixel based) are not scaleable that way.

    The only option you have is to make a symbol of this file and than scale it.

     
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    Apr 3, 2013 3:28 AM   in reply to Arrakis

    off-course that worked, you don't ave live effects anymore than. But is that what you want to do?

     
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    Apr 3, 2013 3:46 AM   in reply to Arrakis

    Arrakis,

     

    In addition to what CHM said, the resolution of the (newly formed) image will be inversely proportional to the scaling factor, so scaling up will lead to (heavier/more visible) pixelation. You can try this:

     

    1) Select the artwork with Drop Shadow and Alt/OptionDrag it a bit,

    2) Object>Expand Appearance (for the copy),

    3) Select both and scale up by 10 times,

    4) Multiply all Drop Shadow values of the original by 10,

    5) Zoom in at a spot where you can see both drop shadows,

    6) Shudder.

     

    And the file size will grow (this may be a negligible effect).

     
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    Apr 3, 2013 4:03 AM   in reply to Larry G. Schneider

    Usually, the Unconditionally Scale Everything command is only available once a year. Click the picture to get the date.

     

    april_001.png

     

    ;-)

     
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    Apr 3, 2013 4:20 AM   in reply to Kurt Gold

    Kurt, I still don't get what you mean. Can you clarify a bit for the slow ones between us:=)

     
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    Apr 3, 2013 4:24 AM   in reply to CHMprepress

    i think he's referring to a particular day in april, somewhat associated with fooling about...

     
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    Apr 3, 2013 4:28 AM   in reply to dougofakkad

    Oo I see now!

     
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    Apr 4, 2013 2:50 AM   in reply to Arrakis

    Arrakis,

     

    I believe this may be one for a script(er).

     

    Maybe Kurt will make one as an atonement.

     

    Or maybe someone else will.

     

    Kurt, Carlos, Theunis, someone?

     
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    Apr 4, 2013 10:42 AM   in reply to Arrakis

    Well, Arrakis, in post 11 I suggested two possible ways:

     

    - Transform effect

     

    - Symbols

     

    Apparently you didn't try them. At least you didn't mention that you had tried them in order to check if they could have solved your issue. So be it …

     

    By the way, you might want to try the Feather effect instead of Gaussian Blur. Feather is an effect that is respected by the Scale Strokes and Effects option.

     

    Hereby I swear to high heaven: This is a deadly serious advice.

     
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    Apr 4, 2013 5:24 PM   in reply to Arrakis

    Sarcasm is terribly abused and mistreated.

     

    Sarcasm is a sign of a clever and agile intellect, a quick wit, and a playfulness sorely missing in so many places (including this thread). Yet it's treated as a characterological blemish, or some kind of moral defect.

     

    Take pity on sarcasm, even if you can't on the perpetrator (who, incidentally, in this case happens to have a clever and agile intellect, a quick wit, and a playfulness sorely missing in this thread).

     
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    Apr 5, 2013 6:37 AM   in reply to Arrakis

    The defense rests.

     

    Except for this:

     

    “The human race has only one really effective weapon and that’s laughter. After all, the moment it arises, all our hardness yields, all our irritations and resentments slip away….”  Mark Twain

     

    I hail from Mark Twain's part of the world.

     
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    Apr 5, 2013 11:02 AM   in reply to Doug Katz

    Doug, I guess you know The Awful German Language by Twain, don't you ?

     

    Marvellous.

     
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    Apr 5, 2013 1:04 PM   in reply to Kurt Gold

    I do. So sarcastic!

     
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    Apr 5, 2013 1:27 PM   in reply to Doug Katz

    In my ears his essay is a subtle and cordial gift.

     

    Anyway, thanks for your Aprilscherzverteidigungsversuchsbemühungen (a valid noun round here, as far as I can tell).

     
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    Apr 5, 2013 1:50 PM   in reply to Kurt Gold

    a valid noun round here

     

    Ganz gewiß, Kurt.

     
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