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Deleting Color Definitions

Apr 9, 2013 2:40 AM

Tags: #color #framemaker_10 #denitions

Hi All,


This is FM 10.


I have a large number of color definitions defined in the template. Please see the attached image. They have names like: RGB 000.048.127 etc.




I want to delete these definitions. I am defining a new set of colors for the template and new definitions are appearing at the end of the list. I need to browse through the entire list.


The problem is mysterious, when I try to delete these definitions, FM do ask for a confirmation whether to delete, but upon clicking OK, FM do not actually delete the entry. It do not give any errors either. They are right there, even after deleting.


Please let me know how can I get rid of them.





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    Apr 9, 2013 3:59 AM   in reply to ComDemon

    > I want to delete these definitions.


    What was that movie line? "Get used to disappointment."


    Those colors are quite likely coming in with an imported object, typically a DXF, DWG, GIF, or perhaps a more common format but using indexed colors instead of continous tone (contone).


    Getting rid of them requires externally converting the object(s) to contone or gray, then re-importing, and may require a MIF hack to actually clear the garbage out of the Color Catalog.

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    Apr 9, 2013 8:05 AM   in reply to ComDemon

    As Error mentions, those colours are created by importing graphics that use an indexed colour scheme (usually PNG or GIF). The only way to ensure that these go away is to convert the offending graphics to use 24-bit colours.

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    Apr 9, 2013 8:26 AM   in reply to Arnis Gubins

    In addition to Anis's suggestion, Rick Quatro has a color definitions clean

    up Framescript (may be part of another package) that zeros all the color

    definitions out.


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    Apr 10, 2013 12:21 AM   in reply to ComDemon

    Hi, in addition to Anis's answer, that's right, if there are imported images. You cannot delete these color definition of these images

    1. Change the image format adn then delete the unused color.

    2. In addition there is a "Delete Unused Color" plug-in in Finalyser.


    - Georg

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    Apr 10, 2013 4:05 AM   in reply to ComDemon

    > But I still can't delete those definitions.


    1. Save as MIF.
    2. Use a plaintext editor to search for
    3. Find the entries:
      <ColorTag `RGB ###,###,###'>
      <... whatever ...>
      > # end of Color
    4. Delete them.
    5. Save.
    6. Open the MIF in FM
    7. Re-save as .fm


    If they return, you haven't found all the objects that are dragging them in.

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    Apr 10, 2013 7:23 AM   in reply to Error7103

    To add to what Error mentioned, if you try to delete the colours through the MIF route, then be careful not to touch the first 16 colours (ending at "Salmon") as these are FM special "Reserved" colour definitions.


    In addition to Georg's excellent Finalyzer product, Silicon Prairie's ColorTools will also delete unused colours. See:

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    Apr 11, 2013 4:08 PM   in reply to Arnis Gubins

    In my experience, a simple MIF wash of the .fm file will delete spurious RGB xxx,xxx,xxx colors (assuming the offending graphic has been removed or converted to non-indexed). No tedious editing required.


    Have others not found the same?



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