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Running numbers, text wrap, and anchored objects - Need help

Apr 17, 2013 2:19 PM

Tags: #cs5.5 #indesign #numbers #running #figures #textwrap

I have a doc with TONS of figures, it's a usewr manual. I'm having a problem with running numbers of figure refrences.

 

Here we go.

 

Chapter 5. Has small figures which create HUGE blocks of empty space to the right of the figure, because I'm anchoring the figure to the leading edge of the figure reference text... Anchor point marked in red.

 

Figure 5-5 ||This is my new figure

 

I would like the figures to move with the text, as sometimes we are adding new sections, features and what not, above or below other figures, thus I would like to reduce the manual positioning of every single figure.

 

Heres the deal though... When I break the figures out into a new text field along with the figure reference copy, and apply text wrap, It works, BUT the figure numbering (LISTS:FIGURES) continues from the last figure in the chapter, i.e what was once figure 5-5 is now figure 5-12. I assume this is because it's recognizing the new text field and saying "ok you're not part of the main fileds, you're secondary, so number from the primary text field.

 

Heres what I have...

Screen shot 2013-04-17 at 1.08.08 PM.png

 

Heres what I want, but I need the figures to be numbered properly, and I also need the figures to move with the text as we add and remove copy above and below neighboring figures...

 

Screen shot 2013-04-17 at 1.12.23 PM.png

 

 

Your help IS ALWAYS greatly appreciated!

 
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    Apr 17, 2013 3:48 PM   in reply to VectorIsBetter09

    There were only 13 minutes between when you made you original post, and when you posted again.

     

    Not everyone is on this forum every moment, and most of us use workflows which don't use features you're asking about.

     

    Be a little more patient. We're just users like you, we're not Adobe staff.

     
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    Apr 18, 2013 5:23 PM   in reply to VectorIsBetter09

    It's obvious that you can't share the doc you are already working on, but can you post a mockup? I think I understand about 70% of your post, but for someone who is not working with your document, it's not easy to understand what you are saying. At least post the "Number:" from the numbering style (you know, this stuff: ^#.^t) so we know how your first and second levels are being formatted.

     

    I often have to make a single parent paragraph style "FigureNumbering" and a bunch of child styles with stupid names like "FigNumRESTART_AT_FIVE."  That is because of InDesign's convenient-yet-inflexible method of top-down, left-right location of items to be numbered. That's what I think you are saying when you say

    "ok you're not part of the main fileds, you're secondary, so number from the primary text field."

    When you're doing things like running chapter heads using variables or harvesting paragraph styles for TOC or whatever, InDesign presumes a top-down, left-right orientation - it'll pick up frames that are further left or further up the page. So if you have content to which you've applied your figure-numbering style in more than one frame, then it doesn't matter what the logical or reading order of your content may be - ID is going to number stuff top-down, left-right. You can use this stupidity to your advantage: if you need figure 5-5 to be the first thing on the page, you can extend the frame to the very top-left edge, and then align the content of your frame to the lower-right-hand corner of the frame. This is an ugly hack but it's better than going back to FrameMaker, which has much better tools for this kind of complex figure-numbering job, but is worse in almost every other way for page layout.

    I also need the figures to move with the text as we add and remove copy above and below neighboring figures...

     

    You've obviously figured out how to make an inline anchored object (I assume by pasting in a screenshot?) but for these purposes you should look into custom positioning of anchored objects. If you're using CS5.5+ you can just drag the blue box on the top-right-hand corner of your figure frame into your text flow and it'll create an anchor. Or, you can select a figure and go to Object -> Anchored Object and tweak it from the menu.

     
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