Sorry this is messy...I copied it from a brochure....
Anyone that can help? Thanks!
Anyone that can help? Thanks!
It looks like the Xerox 800/1000 is a CMYK printer with and extra toner channel and that channel has to be named Clear (case sensitive). The directions you posted for setting up a Clear spot channel are confusing because there are unnecessary steps and the reference to process magenta could throw you off.
You only have to set up a spot channel in Photoshop if you want to apply the Clear toner to part of a placed Photshop file. Here I might want a coating over the ampersand image but not the background, so I make the selection and choose New Spot Channel:
All that matters here is the name "Clear". The Color can be anything and doesn't need to be a process color as the directions imply
In InDesign you don't have to set up the spot color as described, simply place your image with the saved spot channel and the Clear color will be created:
Here I've turned off the Clear spot plate in Sep Preview:
Rob, How would you handle the overprint, though, if you wanted to add spot varnish over color in the Photoshop file? I've used spot channels once or twice in photoshop, but never with the intent to overprint, and I'm not sure that it will work without two images.
In my example the spot channel is overprinting—to get a knockout I would have to select the spot area and delete the CMYK pixels, which I obviously wouldn't do for a varnish. In Photoshop you have to manually cut out knockout areas.
The ID Sep Preview shows it as a overprint:
Message was edited by: Rob Day
ok....well apparently I can't post a link. I have done the spot color in photoshop and placed the pic into InDesign...it prints pink. I have even just drawn a box around something in the InDesign file. Placed it on the clear layer and made it the clear swatch (wihich is pink in ours)...it prints pink also....Oh and both have overprint checked on them.....Soo....I just don't know....Thanks!!
I tried to insert a link, but I can't seem to get it in the message....If you look up Clear Dry Ink Design Tips and techniques for printing with clear dry ink on the Xerox
Design Tips and techniques for printing with clear dry ink on the Xerox
® Color 800/1000 Presses
you will see the pink brochure that my instructions are coming from.
Could you open your document and screen capture your Swatches and Separation Preview panels? Like this:
Then we can be sure it's not a problem with the color setup.
Looks like the Clear spot color has to be mapped correctly at print time. Do you have this? (page6):
Yeah I tried Peter, but I kept getting and error message. But after all this. I finally got it....yall will not believe this!!!! I finally found an old file someone had done. Everything was the same except for the word "clear". His was capitalized, mine was not. I knew they had to be consistent, but didn't realize the the Xerox printer was conrfigured for the clear coat as "Clear". Also went back to photshop and changed the spot channel to "Clear". It worked!!!! Wow!!! Thanks for all the help though!!!
Rob, Can you explain how to do this just on a photoshop picture? If I have a picture and make a path around the picture. Add the spot color and a new layer....both called clear. My picture prints the color of the spot color...which in our case is that pink color. But placed in InDesign it prints correct. I couldn't find an overprint setting in PS. All this is suppose to do is bring out the colors of the original photograph to make it stand out more.
Add the spot color and a new layer....both called clear.
Name's still going to be case sensitive in Photoshop.
You don't need a layer, in fact you can't apply a spot color to a specific layer.
If you are using the pen tool you have to turn it into a selection before you make the Spot channel. Like this:
Select your path in the Paths panel and click Load Path as Selection
Make the spot channel for that selection
Message was edited by: Rob Day, you can't apply a spot color to a specific layer.
Actually I've never tried printing 4-color plus spot separations out of Photoshop—I'm not seeing a way to do it to my Postscript printers. Try saving as Photoshop PDF (PDF/X) and print out of Acrobat Pro
I read this thread since it has started, and I wonder how you want yo use a spot channel in Photoshop… Why don't you create a clipping path in Photoshop, and import this file in InDesign, but without any mask. Duplicate it, with a zero offset, and on this duplicated image, make a mask with the clipping path. Convert the mask into a frame, and delete the image, so you keep only a frame which has the same shape as the clipping path. Fill this new frame, with the Clear color and check “overprint” in the Object options panel.