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Slipping Keyframes: Yes? or NO?!

Apr 30, 2013 3:38 PM

Tags: #after_effects #premiere_pro #keyframes #slipping #slipping_keyframes

Hi everyone,

 

When you slip a clip with keyframes in the Timeline, do you want its keyframes to slip along with the clip?

 

In my case, 99% of the time, I DON'T!  Why?  Because the vast majority of the time, I set motion/effect/audio keyframes based on events in the sequence (i.e. music cues, dialogue, other clips/cuts, titles, etc), NOT based on the content of the clip itself.  However, in Premiere you can't slip a clip without its keyframes slipping too.  In After Effects, it's the opposite, slipping a clip NEVER slips the clip's keyframes.  The After Effects team gets it, that an editor's workflow requires keyframes to stay put when slipping a clip.  So why doesn't Premiere Pro's team get it too?

 

This is a huge editing headache for me and no doubt for so many other editors.  Thankfully, the solution could be so simple:

 

Slip a clip = Keyframes don't Slip

CTRL-Slip (or Command-Slip) a clip = Keyframes slip together with the clip (current PP behavior)

 

This solution would accommodate all workflows, allowing keyframes to slip or stay put depending on the situation!  So to answer the question of "Slipping Keyframes: Yes or No?", I say give us the power to decide!

What do you think? 

 

I've sent FRs to Adobe for this in the past but it seems we still won't get a fix for this in CS Next, so I'm hoping to get others on board, sending Adobe their own FRs so we can finally get this part of Premiere Pro working intelligently, the way After Effects does.  Here's the link for your FRs: http://www.adobe.com/go/wish (there's power in numbers, so if you've ever been annoyed with Premiere's slipping keyframes, please add your voice with a formal FR!)

 
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    Apr 30, 2013 4:00 PM   in reply to PierreLouisBeranek

    Sounds like a darned good feature request. Go for it! http://www.adobe.com/go/wish

     
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    May 1, 2013 10:36 AM   in reply to PierreLouisBeranek

    Yes - this would be excellent. Maddenting to have to fix the keyframes when slipping the clip.  Also, if you could zoom the program monitor with your mouse wheel like you can in AE that would be great too.

     
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    May 1, 2013 11:19 AM   in reply to PierreLouisBeranek

    I'll second that feature request. Would be helpful from time to time. Request sent.

     
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    May 1, 2013 11:48 AM   in reply to PierreLouisBeranek

    PierreLouisBeranek wrote:

     

    Glad you agree Kevin!   I've sent FRs for this in the past, suggesting other ways of doing it, but I think my current proposal is the simplest/most elegant.  I'll submit another FR for this and hope others do too.

     

    I'd also like the option of slipping the keyframes without slipping the clip. It's a feature I used a lot in FCP. Basically, just show clip keyframes in the Timeline, and then drag between any two keyframes--all keyframes for the clip would slip in unison. Pretty cool.

     
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    May 1, 2013 11:51 AM   in reply to BingoFriday

    BingoFriday wrote:

     

    Also, if you could zoom the program monitor with your mouse wheel like you can in AE that would be great too.

     

    Yes, that's a feature request: http://www.adobe.com/go/wish. In the upcoming version, there are keyboard shortcuts for zooming in and out of the main panels, including the Program Monitor.

     
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