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Lightroom has many fewer photos than in Finder?

May 7, 2013 6:42 PM

Tags: #fewer_files_than_finder

Why are there many fewer photos in LR than indicated as files on the Finder?

 

Chuck

 
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    May 7, 2013 7:39 PM   in reply to Chuckmg

    At the risk of stating the obvious, probably because there are some photos on disk that have not been imported in Lightroom.

     

    To find those, run a folder sync (hint: context-click folder).

     

    Rob

     
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    May 8, 2013 10:43 AM   in reply to Chuckmg

    huck,

    You have to understand that Lr is not a browser-based program. That means that Lr does not automatically display (or count) everything that is on the hard drive.

    Images have to be imported in Lr in order to be displayed or counted. For this reason you cannot use Lr to search for images on your hard drive that are not dispolayed in Lr.

    Only Mac Finder (or Win Exp;lorer) can give you an exact account of what is on your hard drive and what is not.

     

    Also, the hard drive might contain images in formats that are not supported by Lr (for instance PDFs). They will not be displayed or counted and cannot be imported.

     
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    May 8, 2013 10:00 PM   in reply to Chuckmg

    Chuckmg wrote:

     

    discrepancy between the whole collection of 360,000  and that which LR sees, 29,500.

    Typo?

     

    36,000 maybe?

     

    (295,000?)

     

    Otherwise, Lr is having only a small fraction instead of the majority.

     

    Note: folder sync will count importable photos on disk vs. catalog - it ignores non-importable files.

     

    Rob

     
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    May 8, 2013 10:02 PM   in reply to Chuckmg

    @v3.5, Ottomanic Importer's "Import Folders or Files" function has a "Report Only" option that will scrutinize folders and log which files are (or aren't) ripe for importing, but haven't been imported.

     
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    May 9, 2013 12:11 AM   in reply to Chuckmg

    As mentioned, files other than importable images will increase the number reported by Finder. I'd add here, that for some types of photo file format, if you write the LR changes back to the file on disk as well as in the Catalog, there will be an independent "sidecar" file with .xmp extension for each one.

     

    If you are making output JPGs into the same folder structure, and (IMO sensibly) not selecting for them to be re-imported to the Catalog, then these will appear in the total file count too.

     

    It is also possible for more  images to be reported inside Lightroom, than there are files on disk, where you have made virtual copies.

     

    In my opinion, it is vital to first fully separate the concepts of "an image", and "a file", in order to get the most from LR. Unlike with e.g. Bridge, these are  not the same thing; they are managed differently, and often without a one-to-one correlation.

     

    "An image" is a virtual entity which needs to refer to a given file on disk, but which in LR has a reality independent from that. You might have a file on disk which is not referenced at all within LR, or that is referenced by just one, or by more than one image within LR (by means of virtual copy). An image within LR can be changed to point to a different file and folder on disk, while remaining otherwise the precise same entity - including all its LR-specific organisation such as Collections etc, which don't really care about the file on disk at all.

     
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    May 11, 2013 12:29 PM   in reply to Chuckmg

    Chuck,

     

    To "un-install", just click the 'Remove' button (in plugin manager).

     

    However, I'd appreciate if you contact me outside the forum so issues can be resolved, if not for you, for others who may have the same problem.

     

    Thanks,

    Rob

     
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