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Relinking to Proxy files with a different extension (CC)

Jun 19, 2013 10:25 PM

Tags: #relink #premiere #cc #link_and_locate #link_media #avchd_bug

Due to the well-documented and discussed AVCHD bug present in CS6 and now in CC, I tend to transcode all of my AVCHD footage for editing.  If it's a multicam project, I like to use lower-res proxies so playback stays smooth. 

 

The problem I'm running into is that whenever I go to relink my media to the original files for export, Premiere's new Link Media dialogue doesn't allow me to search for file names without including the extension.  So instead of being able to look for "Clip_01" regardless of the extension, it's looking for "Clip_01.avi".  When the original file is called "Clip_01.MTS", this tends to be a problem. 

 

I can manually go to the "Clip_01.MTS" file and make it link to that, but then the rest of my media just stays linked to the files they were linked to in the first place.  This makes it impossible to relink multiple files with different extensions.  I literally have to go through each and every clip and manually "Replace Footage" with the original MTS file.  Which sucks. 

 

So there you have it.  Is there any way to get around this?  I know I can transcode to both an intermediate and a proxy with the same extension, but then I would just be eating up harddrive space.  Should this be a feature request?  I thought Adobe had this whole relinking thing figured out.

 
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    Jun 20, 2013 8:08 AM   in reply to MonkeyEatsMonkey

    I'm not convinced you're actually experiencing the AVCHD bug in CC.  Let's take a look at that and see if we can get it working for you.

     

    Let's start with your hardware specs, and go from there.

     
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    Jun 20, 2013 8:23 PM   in reply to MonkeyEatsMonkey

    Intel Core2 Quad 9550 (Overclocked to 3.2Ghz)

     

    Well, there's your problem.  You won't get buttery smooth performance with that relic.  It'll be even worse with multicam work.

     

    You really do want an i7 3770K or an i7 3930K for this stuff.

     
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    Jun 30, 2013 12:26 AM   in reply to MonkeyEatsMonkey

    I haven't tested CC yet, but... What happens if you uncheck 'File Extension' while keeping 'Relink others automatically' checked in the 'Link Media' dialog?

     
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    Jun 30, 2013 10:18 PM   in reply to MonkeyEatsMonkey

    The new relinking feature is designed to find the original files; it is not really intended to support a proxy workflow. That said, if the program cannot find the original files, it will look for others that match certain properties and ask if the ones you find are what you want to link to.

    So for your workflow, try "hiding" the original clips from Premiere by either keeping them on an external drive that you turn off or by moving the folder. If you go the latter route, I believe you will get better results by moving the original folder up rather than down because the code is designed to drill down deeper from the last known location.

     
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    Aug 3, 2013 7:48 AM   in reply to MonkeyEatsMonkey

    I have the same problem. AVCHD files corrupted by premiere and need to convert in other extensions, and relink proxy files. (Problems that didn't exist in Cs5).

     

    Have you fixed the problem moving the original folder? It doesn't work for me.

     
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    Aug 3, 2013 1:26 PM   in reply to elenamannocci

    AVCHD files corrupted by premiere

     

    What makes you think that?

     
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    Aug 4, 2013 5:29 AM   in reply to Jim Simon

    AVCHD files shooted with Panasonic Lumix GH2 (hacked) worked well since Premiere Cs5. From Cs6 to CC editing creates orrible artifacts above the video, and everyone shooting with Gh2 is obliged in converting files in other formats. It's a big issue, a lot of forum talks about it and a lot of videomakers are asking to Adobe to solve this problem.

     
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    Aug 4, 2013 5:30 AM   in reply to elenamannocci

    ps. excuse me for my poor english

     
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    Aug 4, 2013 9:23 AM   in reply to elenamannocci

    I use the GH2 myself and have had no problems with my footage using either CS6 or CC7.

     

    Are you talking about the 'rain' problem?

     
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    Aug 4, 2013 11:13 AM   in reply to Jim Simon

    I have done some work with proxys in premiere cs5 when avchd would not play. Trick is to create the proxies with mpeg extension rather than avi. (I used media encoder). Then rename the extension of avchd clips to mpg. Premiere doesn'y mind avchd files ending with .mpg

     
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    Aug 4, 2013 11:37 PM   in reply to Jim Simon

    Yes the rain effect. I have it in every single project. I'm using Flowmotion hack. Anyway it's a random effect, one day you don't have it and the next one yes, it's very boring.

     
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    Aug 4, 2013 11:40 PM   in reply to Zahoor M. Sakharkar

    Did you rename the extensions in batch? (if yes what program did you use?) Or manually?

     
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    Aug 5, 2013 3:38 PM   in reply to elenamannocci

    I'm using Flowmotion hack.

     

    Try Nick's Moon Trial 7.  It beats Flowmotion 2 in quality, and being an I-frame hack, doesn't seem to suffer from the 'rain'.

     

    (By the way, PP isn't really 'corrupting' those clips, which would mean they were somehow changed by PP and are no longer playable anywhere.)

     
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    Aug 6, 2013 10:19 AM   in reply to elenamannocci

    batching changing filename extensions can be done in adobe bridge (select all files/ right click/batch rename/settings there) but I also use a freeware utility called rename. It's excellent.There are others which are equally good.

     
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    Aug 7, 2013 11:30 PM   in reply to Jim Simon

    Is it 100% stable as Flowmotion? I need it even for weddings, shootting almost 40 Gb per day.

     
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    Aug 8, 2013 4:59 PM   in reply to elenamannocci

    Give it a test with your cards.  I'll be using it for my first wedding on Saturday.

     
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    Oct 4, 2013 9:25 AM   in reply to Jim Simon

    I have edited on GH2 files and on Canon C100 files. It's the same junk. AVCHD is a pain. I have CC and I put my files in Media Encoder. I transcode the following way.

     

    I batch convert everything to "FORMAT: QUICKTIME"

                                                   PRESET: CUSTOM (so choose 720p and then change                                                the VIDEO CODEC: I change to DNxHD (I work on a PC with Windows 7) Before someone chimes in with "get a new computer or buy a MAC" we use both, so that argument doesn't fly. So when I use a PC where ProRes is not available I do this.

     

    OK back to the next step:     Under "CODEC SETTINGS" I choose

                                                  COLOR SPACE: 709 "NONE"

                                                1080p/original frame rate  DNxHD 36 8 bit

    Then it batch converts it all and I save it to a separate hard drive in my tower.

    I use a hard drive dedicated to just putting my proxy footage in there for editing. When any computer whether it be your Mac Pro or PC tower tries to read the files all from the save drive it'll put more stress in one place making your editing a lagging nightmare. Spread it out and keep organized.

     

    I then import my footage into Bins and name the Bin "blah blah proxy footage" Then I edit and the footage is buttery smooth. I have 16gb of ram and it's more than enough for this type of thing. Ok Here's where my issue comes in.

     

    After I've added my cross dissolves and my color corrections, and I'm done rendering my footage, I've yet to figure out how to automatically relink everything to the original .mts files such that it'll be in the same place for each clip. Meaning if I click "replace with " and select any of the three options, it throws in all the .mts clips but assumes that it the clips all start from their recorded starting point rather than my in and out points.  So what I've had to do thus far with CC is go through each clip individually and look with my eye for the place where it lines up.  It's a lot of guess work and I use timecode and it takes FOREVER! I didn't have this problem in previous versions. I've attempted to delete the .mov footage to make everything go offline and reconnect to my .mts files and it still puts the wrong in and out points on each clip.  Needing to fix this!

     
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