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Is it even possible to increase the font size in the Illustrator CC UI? Panels are unreadable!

Jul 11, 2013 11:24 AM

Tags: #illustrator #creative

With the demise of my beloved Fireworks, I am giving Illustrator CC a try. Right off the bat it is unusable due to the microscopic font sizes in the UI, panels in particular. Is there any way to make the UI more readable?

 
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    Jul 11, 2013 12:06 PM   in reply to cc12565

    In so many words: No. That stuff is hard-coded at the core.

     

    Mylenium

     
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    Jul 11, 2013 2:07 PM   in reply to cc12565

    you can change the resolution of your monitor.

     
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    Jul 11, 2013 3:05 PM   in reply to cc12565

    I suppose.

     
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    Oct 10, 2013 5:53 AM   in reply to Mylenium

    I am so frustrated with Adobe's complete disregard for designer accessibility in their CS and CC programs.   There is no good reason that the font size of the commands and labels can't be even modestly adjustable.  Even with maximizing the contrast by using the dark theme, working with an excellent monitor, and bringing the panels out of the corners and into the workspace, working with these products is unnecessaryily tiring as I have to sit unnaturally close to the screen just to see what is there (and that is with glasses).   I am just learning Illustrator, but the problem exists in Photoshop as well.  Disappointing.

     

    Paulette

     
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    Oct 17, 2013 5:03 PM   in reply to mec_os

    Changing the monitor resolution doesn't change the the size of menu fonts or other interface feature in Adobe.  I've tried. 

     
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    Oct 18, 2013 5:42 AM   in reply to Risherp

    What is your resolution and operating system?

     
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    Oct 18, 2013 8:16 AM   in reply to rama@adobe

    If the products used native widgets and controls, O/S and screen resolution would be a non-issue. As is, the product is unusable because I apparently deviate from  your "standard" settings, whatever they are.

     
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    Oct 18, 2013 8:19 AM   in reply to rama@adobe

    Rama,

     

    Monitor 1 is a Dell S2340M set to 1920x1080.  Monitor 2 is a Samsung S20B350, set to 1600 x 900.  Both of these are the "recommended" settings for their respective monitors. 

     

    I am running Windows 8.  Using the control panel,  I've adjusted all items to a medium setting of 125% as a normal practice.  In trying to resolve my issues with Illustrator, I experimented with increasing the Text Size for various items (title bars, menus, icons, etc) from the default of 9 to higher settings.  The effects showed in places like Office, but did not have any impact in Illustrator.  I am guessing that my text is being displayed at 8.  Here is a screen capture which will give you an idea of the relative size of the menu and icons to the overall screen

     

    To some degree I have gotten used to dealing with the small text size in Photoshop because there are not as many icons, menus, etc, but Illustrator is really a challenge.  Any ideas? Risher_AI-Screen-Capture.jpg 

     
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    Oct 18, 2013 4:11 PM   in reply to Risherp

    Risherp,

     

    I searched for your monitor model and saw that it is 23 inches. I  used this link to find  out the physical size you are viewing your screen image.

    http://members.ping.de/~sven/dpi.html

     

    in comparison, on my monitor Illustrator is worse. This is my screen.

    Untitled-1.jpg

     

    To see the physical size I'm viewing it on my monitor, place this image in Illustrator and set its size to  23.53 inches wide by 13.24 inches high. Then display the rules and zoom until one inch  on the ruler in Illustrator equals one inch on a real life ruler.  Then you will see how small and cr*** the Illustrator UI is. It is pain in the a**

     

    I have no doubt that the Illustrator UI design team use monitors from the last century with a fixed resolution of 72 ppi.

     
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    Oct 18, 2013 9:06 PM   in reply to Risherp

    Unfortunately there is no way the Icon & Font Size can be changed in Illustrator CC at present, but this is in our list.

     
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    Oct 19, 2013 6:54 AM   in reply to rama@adobe

    Curious where that change is on the list of things to do. Near the bottom?

     
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    Oct 19, 2013 7:17 AM   in reply to rama@adobe

    Thank you Rama...

     

    Hopefully it is near the top of the list!

     

    Regards,

     

    Paulette

     
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    Jan 5, 2014 2:47 PM   in reply to rama@adobe

    This is an unbelievably frustrating issue. I asked about a dozen designers and its a silent grudge everyone seems to hold against the suite. I can't imagine why it would be difficult for a design pioneer like Adobe to make menues elastic. Photoshop does it badly with interface labels that try to scale inside of a fixed size menus causing readability issues, but at least it tries. The company pushes updates for things that don't exist as far as I'm concerned, yet this issue seems to be continously overlooked for years - why? Accessibility is not optional. It's not a 'nice-to-have'. Workflow speed and performance would be substantially improved if we didn't have to squint to read 6 point font. I'm sorry but I'm going to have to start a bunch of social media posts on the subject to try to get your attention. Every time an interface causes blood pressure to rise, it's time to act.

     
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    Jan 11, 2014 4:46 AM   in reply to Dave Johnson Jr.

    Dave is absolutely right. I just started using a new 27" iMac thinking all my workflow speed issues will now be resolved... finally... but no. Adobe somewhere forgot that the basic interaction between man and machine is paramount. Seems like everything now (iOS included) is being designed by 22 year olds with perfect vision.

     
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    Jan 13, 2014 9:34 PM   in reply to iDigDesign

    Actually, my age is not far off the mark, and I am not a 'low-vision' user. I don't think demographics have anything to do with it actually; it's a matter of usability and productivity which suffer considerably when an interface is hard to use.

     

    What gets me seeing red is that its a seemingly simple fix. The application is not universal by any means. It does not suffer from the crippling need to be backwards compatible going back several versions (if anything, Adobe's stance on upgrades has been rather militant, which I suppose is a good thing in this case), it does not run on mobile or some obscure build of linux.

     

    It's definitely not a constraint of app size and considering they already chucked interface conventions used by Windows/OS X about 5 versions ago, why not just go the extra step and solve this problem. I would happily trade in the ability to select the shade of grey (really?) to selecting the font size. What do you think will have a greater impact on my performance?

     

    All we can do is wait. On the other hand maybe its time to check out alternatives.

     
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    Jan 15, 2014 10:34 PM   in reply to Dave Johnson Jr.

    17.1 update is released for Illustrator CC, this update contains support for HiDPI devices, with this update you can see Illustrator in enlarged mode.

     

    Here is the excerpt from Release Notes

    Adobe Illustrator extends HiDPI support to Windows-based devices. You can now view Illustrator in enlarged mode, as per text size preferences on a high-resolution displays.

    • For displays with resolution greater than or equal to 1920*1080 & less than 2560*1440, Illustrator can be launched at 1.5 times scaled-up UI, depending on the OS text size.
    • For displays with resolution greater than or equal to 2560*1440, Illustrator can be launched at 1.5 times or 2 times scaled-up UI, depending on the OS text size.

     

    For information on viewing or making adjustments in Windows, see:

     

    -Rama

    Illustrator Team

     
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    Jan 16, 2014 5:46 PM   in reply to rama@adobe

    "For displays with resolution greater than or equal to 1920*1080..."

     

    That is so not helpful. Screen size and dpi are two different things, and it's the dpi that matters. You'd think the maker of graphics software would know that.

     

    So where does my 1600x1200 screen size (higher than 96dpi) fall into their equation?

     

    It probably doesn't so I'm probably still out of luck. I need font 2x now. :-(

     
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    Jan 17, 2014 12:19 AM   in reply to Risherp

    Hi Risherp,

     

    Can you try setting your windows scaling to 135 to 150%, log-off and login and relaunch AI. AI should launch at 150% scaling which should be good. Please let us know if it is working for you.

     

    And this will work only with Illustrator 17.1 patch released on 16th Jan 2013.

     

    Sanjay.

     
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    Jan 17, 2014 12:25 AM   in reply to kt2656

    Actually we have set the limit of scaling to 150% on a monitor having at-least 1920X1080 because we have tried to keep all our UI usable at 150% scaling at this resolution. If user have less resolution then some of the UI elements will go out of the screen and will become unusable.

     

    Similary, there is minimum resolution required for 200% scaling and it is 2560*1440 to avoid UI elements truncation.

     

    Sanjay.

     
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    Jan 17, 2014 4:58 AM   in reply to Sanjay Kumar

    Sanjay,

     

    This is a step in the right direction, but it creates ugly workflow related issues.  At 125% (my default), the font and icon size remains uncomfortably small.  If I use the Control Panel and reset my Windows' scaling from 125% to 150%, the Illustrator font and icons are much more readible.  Unfortunately, this 150% is awful for everything else. 

     

    I don't want to use 150% for all of my Office and other applications. While, for a long work session I will change the scaling to 150%, most days when I am toggling between and among Outlook, Word, Excel, PowerPoint, Explorer, and the Adobe suite, I can't afford the time to have to reset the scaling. 

     

    Just to reaffirm,  I am not "low vision" from the accessibility perspective, I am just one of the 225 million Americans (75% of adults) that wear corrective lenses. 

     

    Thank you for the effort but please keep this on the list for continued "customer requested" upgrades.  I just want to be able to adjust the menu font and icon size from within Illustrator and have those settings become the default.   

     

    Regards,

     

    Paulette

     
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    Jan 17, 2014 6:06 AM   in reply to Risherp

    Hi Paulette,

     

    Can you try 130 % or even 126 %, anything greater than 125%. I guess it will trigger our scaling to 150% and you will not loose much on other app scaling.

     

    Please let me know your experience with this setting.

     

    Sanjay.

     
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    Jan 17, 2014 6:17 AM   in reply to Sanjay Kumar

    Good job was done with hi-dPI

    so in plain terms as I understand 720p is normal 1x, 1080p is 1.5x(150%) and 1440p is 2x(200%)

    cool!

     
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    Jan 17, 2014 6:20 AM   in reply to Sanjay Kumar

    Sanjay,

     

    The 126% definitely works.  It does appear to trigger the 150% scaling without making a noticeable difference in other apps. 

     

    Thank you!

     

    Regards,

     

    Paulette

     
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    Jan 17, 2014 6:27 AM   in reply to Risherp

    Thank you Paulette for confirming :)

     
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    Feb 26, 2014 7:10 AM   in reply to Sanjay Kumar

    This is definitely a step in the right direction but I would much, much, much prefer if Adobe apps had a setting the PREFERENCES that allowed scaling of menu and other text instead of setting it for the computer as a whole. There's really no reason I should have to set something universally as a workaround for Adobe. Just sayin.

     

    Thanks,

     

    Ian

     
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    Feb 28, 2014 1:29 PM   in reply to rama@adobe

    I am using a new iMac 27” all this talk about changing monitor resolution to use software that I pay more than $50 a month to use is bull. This problem has been around for awhile as monitor ppi has been going up UI font size has been going down.

     

    Adobe fixed it in Photoshop with preference UI font size “Small  Medium  Large”. If it can be done in Photoshop why not Adobe software?

     

    Its not like Adobe has not heard this before, so get busy and fix this issue. PLEASE

     

    Thanks

    Joe D

     
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    Apr 2, 2014 7:47 AM   in reply to Hoppie

    I just updted to 17.1, and it made a difference. I will still not describe it as accessible, just barely able to read. I use a 15.6" monitor with 4K resolution (3200 x 1800). My vision is quite good, but with the WIndows setting to 200%, the toolbars in AI are about 5pt in physical size. Huge improvement, but I would certainly appreciate more control. 4K screens are here now, and Adobe seems to be just now adjusting for conventional HD. I'm working at a display density of around 235 pixels per inch.

     

     
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