I just bought Corel AfterShot Pro (Mac) for 20 bucks from an Amazon email. Corel bought Bibble last year and upgraded their Pro to AfterShot Pro. I also received their latest update for 30 more cameras. It's Lightroom at a 97% discount and it includes Noise Ninja , which I did not have. Well worth it for that alone.
Apparently it does not open DNG at the present time. I am well aware that Corel must be blowing it out ahead of a new version, but I wanted Noise Ninja. It's similar to Aperture which I also have. Reviews are mixed on whether it's faster or slower than Lightroom but you can work on a single image without the baggage that Lightroom imposes.
A lot of people are getting excited bout Photo Ninja lately. I still haven't tried it, but really should do. Here's an interesting article by Tony Bridge, who is one of the names in NZ photography, and photography related education.
The above is worth a read if your preferred output is large prints, so I'd be interested to hear what Station, or even Jeff Schewe, has to say on the subject. I see landscapes with detail I can never obtain, despite shooting with a 1DsMK3 and some of Canon's sharpest lenses.
While I'm deeply embarrassed, humbled and astonished to find my Adobe user ID mentioned in the same sentence as the name of guru Jeff Schewe, for whom I have nothing but admiration and respect—and not for a nanosecond pretending to misuse this opportunity to claim a status I don't even remotely aspire to—I don't mind reporting that I've used Noise Ninja since the first version years ago but also that I have not explored PhotoNinja—yet.
Currently, I'm exploring Photoline and I'm very, very impressed. It's most likely that I'll buy it.
While Noise Ninja is very good, for some digital denoising tasks I also like Imagenomic's Noiseware Professional.
Thankfully, digital noise is not the problem it used to be with early DSLRs, and very often Photoshop's noise reduction capability does the job admirably.
For those of us who still deal with film albeit to an ever diminishing extent, however, nothing, absolutely nothing even approaches the functionality and capabilities of the Grain Surgery 2 set of film grain management plug-ins (Remove Grain, Add Grain, Sample Grain,Match Grain, Auto Match Grain).
Unfortunately, even tragically, the Adobe evil bureaucracy bought Grain Surgery from Visual Infinity (perhaps the entire assets of that company?) and promptly killed it.
It's one of the main reasons I keep a PPC Power Mac G5 Quad on which I run Photoshop 11.0.2 ("CS4") under Tiger, because Adobe quietly shelved Grain Surgery before there was a version that could run on Intel Macs or in 64 bits. Grrrrrr…
The above is worth a read if your preferred output is large prints, so I'd be interested to hear what Station, or even Jeff Schewe, has to say on the subject.
Read the the article...didn't tell me much. Downloaded the demo to Photo Ninja...it's ok. Pretty primitive and simplistic–which would appeal to some people. But, as far as I can see, it doesn't offer any functionality that can't be done in ACR/LR with proper settings applied.
No batch capability...each adjustment is modal-meaning you must actually "apply" the adjustment which means it's impossible to make multiple adjustments across tools at once. As a workflow, it's deficient…
Would I switch to Photo Ninja? Nope…
I've been using AfterShot Pro on my linux system along with Lightzone, Darktable and Raw Therapee.
Corel just updated Aftershot Pro about a week or so ago after an extremely long wait.
None of the above quite measure up to adobe camera raw in tems of quality of the output, though.
Ok, just for reference, I said AfterShot includes NOISE NINJA, not PhotoNinja.
AfterShot also has something called Perfectly Clear.
I keep seeing RAW Therapee as a free download for Mac, but the download is an exe file, R Kelly. Do you like it?
I could run it in VMWare.
I did not know until today that Picasa is a RAW processor (per some website I bookmarked).
There's quite a few out there now. I now have about a half dozen.
Yes, and PhotoNinja is made by the same folks. Sorry the conversation got away from your original list, Lundberg. I was responding to Jeff's comment, because I recognized my own sentiment.
There are a lot of pieces of software that claim to convert raw files. Thing is, the ones I've actually tried just don't do it at professional quality levels. They just don't do the stuff we've come to expect from Camera Raw, nor in a way that's as easy to use. It's not easy to be on that cutting edge, nor is catching up with Adobe easy to do. That's why Adobe gets big bucks.
I've always liked Corel Painter 4 Essentials for quick fixes to web downloaded jpgs or jpgs from email. Corel Painter full version has always had better cloning than Photoshop. I always get the latest Elements when it goes discounted, but I rarely use it. I have PSCS5 and will probably stop there, I don't think I need any more features and i don't use any production tools. Whenever Focus Magic releases their new Mac version I will get it and that's all you really need for cleaning up.
I like to collect imaging apps just to see what's going on, I think I have about 50 now. The App Store always has some new one for a few bucks.
I would like to get DxO and OnOne but they're too expensive for now. Maybe they will see the opportunity that has arisen with Adobe's suicide attempt and have a sale to capture a share of the market. Now that Fujifilm has a RAW camera under 150 bucks, and has also created a new rotated sensor for better resolution in the X-Tran series, I think more people will be attracted to RAW shooting and the image improvement market will expand. Photoshop is just too much club for the hole.
I must have a dozen apps that catalog, but have never done it in any organized way. I guess I should at least do the family stuff, 5 or 6 GB. It's really tedious based on my experience with a library of converted slides from the 60s and 70s.
Noel Carboni wrote:
…pieces of software that claim to convert raw files… …That's why Adobe gets big bucks…
Agreed. If it weren't for ACR, I probably would have stayed at CS2 or so.
With the unfathomable Cash Cow subscription, Adobe has left me no choice but to stick to ACR 8.1 hosted by Photoshop CS6. Big bucks or small bucks, Adobe ain't getting one more penny out of me now.
That's why it's important to keep following the progress of all these other programs.
My thanks to Lundberg02 and to Herbert for posing about the newcomers.
After reading all the praise with faint damns about Photoline, and after getting paid on time for a change and not having to bust my credit card to pay the rent, I decided to try it. I downloaded the trial and then tried to pay for it. The site would not take the aforementioned credit card even though its health was assured, so I emailed Photoline support and got a time lag reply that my card probably won't convert euro and to try PayPal. I finally got that to work afterr some false starts due to the touchness of Photolines web site. What a PIA. I told them in my reply to their email that they had better make this easier to do since a lot of people are looking for PS alternatives. BTW 59 Euro is 80.36 USD today.
I'll have to wait til tomorrow for the license code, the site says.
Just a heads up for anyone deciding to buy it.