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Safe Title  randomness..what is going on here?

Sep 3, 2013 10:48 PM

CS7 / Win 7

 

Here are my standard Safe Title Area Markings.  (30, 10)  per NZ Broadcast Spec.

 

30 10 Safe setting.PNG

 

30 10 Safe.PNG

 

 

So note above...there are additional markings  apart from the ones I have pointed at with red arrows! What are they?

 

Here they are if I make my setting "0, 0".  (0, 0 are the out side ones with the centre marks vert and horizontal).

 

Note how the random ones become full height "meaningless nothing markers" !

 

00 Safe.PNG

 

I cant figure what they are..where they come from and I will call them a bug if others can reproduce the issue.

 

I will screen grab and post how they are supposed to  work as they do in CS6 if requested.

 

Not being able to lose them is my issue. Hopefully I have missed something?

 
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    Sep 4, 2013 3:35 AM   in reply to shooternz

    Those 'markers' have always be there. The are right in the middle.

     
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  • joe bloe premiere
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    Sep 4, 2013 6:53 AM   in reply to Ann Bens

    CS4:

    CS4.png

    .

    CS5:

    CS5.PNG

    .

    CS6:

    CS6.PNG

     
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    Sep 4, 2013 7:17 AM   in reply to shooternz

    Craig,

     

    For some, completely mysterious, reason, Adobe decided that we needed to see the 4:3 margins when we see the 16:9 margins.

     

    And yet, they didn't make it optional.

     

    So, the age old question....

     

    Is a badly implemented feature a bug that needs to be fixed? Or just a badly implemented feature that needs to be changed?

     

    The result should be the same either way, I would hope.

     
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  • joe bloe premiere
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    Sep 4, 2013 7:30 AM   in reply to Steven L. Gotz

    For some, completely mysterious, reason, Adobe decided that we needed to see the 4:3 margins when we see the 16:9 margins.

    First, I don't think that is what he is talking about.

     

    Second, the 4x3 / 16x9 safe areas are vital in my work.

    I need to be certain that HD ads adhere to the broadcaster specs

    of having all titles 'side-cut' safe (within 4x3 title safe).

     

    But since you are a hobbyist, I can understand your POV.

    You can turn them off when they are in the way.

     

    16x9 / 4x3 safe areas:

    16x9_4x3.PNG

     
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    Sep 4, 2013 7:48 AM   in reply to joe bloe premiere

    Craig will let us know if I am addressing his issue or not.

     

    And I am not "always" a hobbyist and I sometimes do have to pay attention to the safe margins. I do not, however, need the 4:3 markers. You are right about that. I do not shoot for broadcast.

     

    And no, there is no way to turn off the 4:3 markers and still keep the 16:9 markers. Not that I know of. If I am wrong, I would appreciate instructions.

     
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  • joe bloe premiere
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    Sep 4, 2013 7:51 AM   in reply to Steven L. Gotz

    These arrows indicate the horizontal / vertical 'center marks'

    that are the subject of this question:

    30+10+Safe.PNG

    .

    note:

    Craig's image.

     
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    Sep 4, 2013 7:55 AM   in reply to joe bloe premiere

    Craig's words:

     

    "there are additional markings  apart from the ones I have pointed at with red arrows! What are they?"

     
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  • joe bloe premiere
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    Sep 4, 2013 7:56 AM   in reply to Steven L. Gotz

    And no, there is no way to turn off the 4:3 markers and still keep the 16:9 markers. Not that I know of. If I am wrong, I would appreciate instructions.

    You know the drill:

    You can file a feature request here:

    http://www.adobe.com/go/wish

     
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    Sep 4, 2013 8:00 AM   in reply to joe bloe premiere

    I just ignore them myself. And once Craig realizes what they are, he probably will also.

     

    That is, if I answered the right question after all.

     
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  • joe bloe premiere
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    Sep 4, 2013 8:03 AM   in reply to Steven L. Gotz

    Maybe you'll get some points!!

     
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  • joe bloe premiere
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    Sep 4, 2013 2:47 PM   in reply to shooternz

    It looks like there needs to be separate controls

    for adjusting the 16x9 and 4x3 safe areas.

    30+10+Safe+setting.PNG

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    (Now that there's both a 16x9 and a 4x3 combined in CC7)

     
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    Sep 4, 2013 3:08 PM   in reply to shooternz

    Sounds like in PrPro CC Adobe simply introduced the style, which has long been implemented in AE...

     

    P.S. However, seems without providing any control over center-cut zones...

     
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  • joe bloe premiere
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    Sep 4, 2013 3:09 PM   in reply to Fuzzy Barsik

    Ae CS6 controls:

    Safe.PNG

     
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  • joe bloe premiere
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    Sep 4, 2013 3:14 PM   in reply to shooternz

    I agree... definitely confusing.

    An excellent Feature Request.

     
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    Sep 4, 2013 4:58 PM   in reply to shooternz

    They plaster themselves over the top of my settings which are always HD.and should be optional.

    Of course you are right.

     
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