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ghost styles? jinxed searches?

Nov 8, 2013 4:26 AM

I come to the conclusion there's something I don't understand about FM searches … by scrutinising .mif copies of existing .fm files, I have discovered a redundant style.

FM knows it's there – because saving the relevant .book as .pdf throws a warning about a missing font that's only used in this style – and admits it in the paragraph catalogue:

tagInCatalog.png

 

On the other hand, FM steadfastly the style denies exists if I search on Paragraph Tag (virtuously checking body pages, master pages and reference pages) in the files concerned.

tagInSearch.png

 

Does Find Paragraph Tag actually mean "find paragraph tag as long as it's applied to some text"? That would be rather limiting.

 
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    Nov 8, 2013 9:13 AM   in reply to Niels Grundtvig Nielsen

    Perhaps you need something added to the available search choices, but I'd prefer to describe Find Paragraph Tag as Find Text with a Specific Paragraph Tag, which I find indispensable.

     

    To remove the ghost tag in Fm11, try using the options in your Paragraph Catalog to display or delete unused tags.

    Screenshot 2013-11-08 09.09.26.png

     

    -Matt

     
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    Nov 8, 2013 9:26 AM   in reply to Niels Grundtvig Nielsen

    Niels,

     

    The FM Find function searches through the content in the flows only. Something defined in a Catalog, but not used in a flow, can not be found his way. As Matt indicates, you need to use the tools available for the repsective catalog to remove the unwanted definitions.

     
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    Nov 13, 2013 6:15 AM   in reply to Niels Grundtvig Nielsen

    > save to .mif and examine content: <PgfTag `{name}'> is defined, but never used …

     

    Assuming by "defined" you mean it appears in

    <PgfCatalog

    What happens when you delete that structure from the MIF, save and re-open?

     

    The catalog deletion would be everything from:

    <Pgf

      <PgfTag `{name}'>

    ... to ...

    > # end of Pgf

     
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    Nov 15, 2013 8:30 AM   in reply to Niels Grundtvig Nielsen

    Niels,

     

    In your case, the character tag is applied to the variable, but not used as part of the variable definition.

     

    Named styles can be used anywhere in the document markup, even if they aren't declared in the catalogs. This is both an advantage and disadvantage with FM.

     

    FM will not search within variable or cross-ref definitions, but you can tell FM to search explicitly within marker text. This is a UI design-flaw IMHO.

     

    Tables are quite notorious for also storing formatting information (but not the tag names, rather explicit format declarations) in the first rows of the heading and body of every table.

     
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