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Can't Delete Keywords.  How Delete Keywords?

Nov 18, 2013 4:26 PM

I can't delete keywords easily.    How can I delete keywords easily?

 

 

I found instructions that said to select the keyword.    But I have no way to select the keyword.   At least I haven't found the way.     In the Library, where the keywords are, I found no way to select them.   Clicking on them does no good. 

 

 

I found I could uncheck keywords from the Keyword List, but that requires a lot of scrolling.    There must be a faster way.

 
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    Nov 18, 2013 4:30 PM   in reply to TomBrooklyn

    Right-click on a keyword in the Keyword List panel.

     
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    Nov 18, 2013 5:36 PM   in reply to dj_paige

    Just in case the OP only wanted to delete keywords from particular pictures:

     

    to clarify, deleting a keyword altogether from the keywords list, removes it from all images in the Catalog, even if they are not currently highlighted, or even currently visible.

     

    To remove keywords from particular images, an easier way than scrolling down and unchecking them, is to use the "Keywording tags" window inside the Keywording panel. This might be collapsed, in which case you can click a small arrow at the right side of that title to expand and show a little rectangular area.

     

    As you highlight one or many images, any and all keywords that are assigned to one or more of those highlighted images, appear in the keywording area. This is far more manageable than the full list of keywords, typically. LR adds an asterisk after any keywords which are assigned to only some of the highlighted images. Any keyword without the asterisk, is held by them all in common.

     

    Say the keyword area displays "keyword1, keyword2*, keyword3"  - there's a 2-way interaction here, since you can edit the summary of keyword tags directly and LR automatically makes the needed changes straight away:

    • If you add a comma and then "keyword4", this will add that new keyword to all the highlighted images.
    • If you edit OUT "keyword1", you remove this from all the highlighted images (though any which were not highlighted, and have that keyword, still keep it).
    • If you edit OUT "keyword2*" (which has the asterisk), then that subset of the images which did have that, will stop having that.
    • If you just edit out the asterisk leaving "keyword2" in place, then instead of only some of the images having that, now all will have it: you have in effect re-added it across the whole batch.

     

    hth

     

    RP

     
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    Nov 18, 2013 8:31 PM   in reply to TomBrooklyn

    OK, sorry - from your description it sounded as if you were un-checking them in the keywords list.

     

    The reason the keyword tags window is not 2-way interactive for you currently, is probably because the selector menu at the top of the window, is set to either "Will Export" or "Keywords and Containing Keywords". Both of these just give readouts AFAICT - based on the more complex nesting and attributes of the keywords, which cannot be directly typed in here.

     

    Try changing this selector menu to "Enter Keywords", and you should be back in business.

     

    regards, RP

     
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    Nov 19, 2013 3:50 AM   in reply to TomBrooklyn

    Or, right-click on a keyword in the Keyword List panel

     
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    Nov 19, 2013 5:48 AM   in reply to dj_paige

    dj_paige wrote:

     

    Or, right-click on a keyword in the Keyword List panel

    ...the laborious part being, if (say) you wanted to remove the 3rd, 17th, 42nd, 45th, 67th and 172nd keywords within the full keywords list - from an image, or a set of images. And then, you wanted to do the same again with a completely different selection of keywords, against another set of images.

     

    You'd need to know which ones to look for; or else to notice that particular keywords were checked; as you scrolled down the entire list to review them each in turn. And these would each time, be intermixed among many other keywords with nothing to do with the task at hand.

     

    The keyword tags window separates (filters) out for you, just those keywords currently relevant to that image or group of images - dynamically. And making a brand new keyword, is as easy as typing it in - which also assigns it.

     

    RP

     
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    Nov 19, 2013 6:18 AM   in reply to richardplondon

    ...the laborious part being, if (say) you wanted to remove the 3rd, 17th, 42nd, 45th, 67th and 172nd keywords within the full keywords list - from an image, or a set of images. And then, you wanted to do the same again with a completely different selection of keywords, against another set of images.

    I don't follow this, Richard. The original poster said he wanted to delete keywords; he did not say he wanted to delete keywords "from an image, or a set of images"; seems to me you have redefined the problem to something that wasn't what the person asked for.

     

    I also don't think the original poster wanted to "remove the 3rd, 17th, 42nd, 45th, 67th and 172nd", which makes the task sound rather daunting and involving counting of the keywords to find the 17th keyword; of course he doesn't plan on doing this by numbers; if he wants to remove the "Alabama" keyword, he simply has to find "Alabama" and then right-click on it. Then remove the "Philadelphia" keyword, same thing. Not a difficult task perceptually, although certainly a repetitive task.

     
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    Nov 19, 2013 7:58 AM   in reply to dj_paige

    dj_paige wrote:

     

    I don't follow this, Richard. The original poster said he wanted to delete keywords; he did not say he wanted to delete keywords "from an image, or a set of images"; seems to me you have redefined the problem to something that wasn't what the person asked for.

    You are right, as far as the first post goes. But, read Post # 3.

     
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    Nov 19, 2013 10:33 AM   in reply to dj_paige

    I don't follow this, Richard. The original poster said he wanted to delete keywords; he did not say he wanted to delete keywords "from an image, or a set of images"; seems to me you have redefined the problem to something that wasn't what the person asked for.

     

    No, that aspect was potentially unclear (at least, to me),. Was it a question of wiping a keyword universally from the Catalog wherever it occurred, or a narrower task based on the tag window. So I thought I should cover the latter alternative - as I put it, "in case".

     

    I did not mean to imply by this, that your own interpretation was an unreasonable one to make.

     

    counting of the keywords to find the 17th keyword; of course he doesn't plan on doing this by numbers; if he wants to remove the "Alabama" keyword, he simply has to find "Alabama" and then right-click on it.

    Yes, of course - I just pointed out, the keywords in question may be randomly distributed through the whole list (and the OP mentioned not wanting to "scroll" a lot). But inside the tag window, these are dynamically filtered down.

     

    Not a difficult task perceptually, although certainly a repetitive task.

     

    Quite: "laborious" was the word I used. Potentially error-prone too. Nothing actually wrong with it, though, if you are so inclined. As so often, there are several ways; some better fitted than others to a given situation... or person.

     

    regards, RP

     
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    Nov 19, 2013 5:10 PM   in reply to TomBrooklyn

    Glad you got it sorted out. (I didn't mean to get into a controversy; sometimes there's just a bit of to-and-fro before the particular problem is identified)

     

    The item "containing keywords" AFAIK relates to the ability to nest keywords inside each other. For example, say I have the keyword "France" and the keyword "Paris". Now I put just the keyword Paris onto an image, and then in the keyword list, drag Paris inside France so that it indents as a sub-keyword. This now means that when I search for images using the term "France", this image will start showing up - even though it does not explicitly have the keyword France - since it qualifies indirectly through its keyword Paris (which counts as being "a France keyword", due to being nested logically inside that). Also when exporting, you can opt to have LR award the France keyword explicitly in such a case (just for the exported copy). So: this option previews any such extra "parent" keywords which would get added, or which are additionally used for searches, due to nesting. If you un-nested the keywords tomorrow, that behaviour would stop. Of course, if you did explicitly add France as well as Paris, then nested or not nested, would make no practical difference.

     

    The item "Will Export" AFAIK relates to the ability to conceal particular keywords from exporting - by clearing a checkbox in the keyword properties. These operate internally as normal, only when exported, they get left out. Perhaps they are purely there for organisational or workflow reasons - or some kind of a private flag or rating which is never intended for public consumption. This option previews the omission of those keywords, which would happen if you exported - I guess, allowing a check that nothing will be included that you don't want to be.

     

    Both these options are rather specialised; it is far more normal AFAICT, to just leave this set to "Enter Keywords".

     

    regards, RP

     
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