When I allow pro to make a sequence from my source it automatically makes the following adjustments: ARRI Cinema 23.976 1920 x 1080 square pixles no fields progressive scan 24 fps
Here is what I need to do. I need to change the preview screen so that it shows 720 x 480 because that is what I have to export it to. I already have premade intros that were made in SD, so I need it to all fit together by me simply resizing my HD footage to fit in the SD window. I already know how to make the preview window the right size, but so far I cannot make a high quality export using this method. The only thing that I have found that works so far is editing my HD video as a HD video, but my premade intro that was made in SD will not work because if I streach it out to fit in the HD editing, then when I export it will be jumpy. So, I need a good setting to set the encoder to so I can I can make my HD footage work in SD. BTW this method has worked great in elements 11. Surely this expensive pro version can accomplish the same task. I would appreciate any help I can get on this because I tried for 5 hours today with adobe chat to get an answer and they kept saying they would have someone call me, but that never happend. It was the worst customer service I have had in a long time.
All considered ...maybe you need to edit in an SD Sequence.
What is your deliverable exactly? SD or SD FHA or ??? eg does it show on only SD screens or does it show on 16:9 screens as well with bars left and right (pillar boxed)
Why this ? What are you calling the Preview Screen?.
Here is what I need to do. I need to change the preview screen so that it shows 720 x 480 because that is what I have to export it to.
I dont understand this either? How did you change the preview window and why? What method is involved?
I already know how to make the preview window the right size, but so far I cannot make a high quality export using this method.
Are you still getting flickering issues?
I make my HD footage fill up the entire SD screen. Yes, some will view the SD footage on the HD TV, but at the moment the majority is SD. The preview window isthe one in the program that you edit from upper right. I am a preacher and I use lots of verses on the screen. So, I have to have everything be in the safe zone in SD format. As far I know you cannot see the safe lines in HD for SD. So the changing of the preview window simply means that I need it to be 720 x 480 instead of HD. Yes, I am getting flickering issues. One thing I just did that made it flicker free was opening my source footage as is in HD, exported in in MPG 2 SD and then brought it back in as 720x480 and exported it again in MPG2 and it looked acceptable. While this is a possible work around it wll mean I will have to do this for every bit footage I do and that will take up to much time. Surely there is another way.
I assume everything is seen as SD (4:3) and no letterboxing.on broadcast TV or the internet stream.
I assume that you are cutting the sides off the HD footage? (SD centre extraction from the HD)
I am aware you have an opening media asset that is SD (4;3)
New simple workflow for you.
Export as your requirement.
Do a test export and see if that sorts the "flickering".
Screen grab your export setting once done and show us.
There are a number of ways of doing this but I am thinking to start you with a basic way.
I would be working in 2 sequences. One a SD DV and the other, an HD seqw. to match the source.
I would edit in the HD and nest that into the SD where your SD asset is waiting .
Scale the nst down . Efficient because all clips scale in one action.
Add graphics in the SD sequence. Export from there
I will have to look up nesting. I am not familar with it because all I used before was elements 11. I will do some research on it. I am for sure how that will make a difference but then again I am pretty green.
Ok I understand nesting, but my question is how is going to be any different editing in HD and then scaling it down as a nest into a SD. How would that change the way it is exported? It seems like a more complicated way to do the same thing if you simply did your editing and added your titles to the SD edit. Am i missing something? If so please if explain if you do not mind.
If you edit HD source files in an SD Sequence you need to scale every HD clip to fit somehow.
IN a nest..its a single action. Scale once. Its a simpler in fact.
You would be exporting from your Sd sequence no matter what and creating your title in the SD sequence ..no matter what.
I finally found a setting that works to make my video not jump. I did it by making the sequence DV24p, but I have one more problem. The intro that was made for me was created in 29.97 and my video shot which is working good now is 23.963. This difference is making the intro flicker now. Do you think I could open the intro in the same rate it was created in then export it in 24p and make it work that way?
I found out all I had to do to fix the flicker problem was to right click on the clip select field option and the select deflicker. I surprised no one mentions trying that. I do not fully understand how to edit in HD and make it to where it will work right when exported to SD so that it takes up the full screen.
You should not have flicker in the first place if you had chosen correct sequence settings.
Properly shot footage does not have flicker and a correct sequence wont induce it.
Flicker in your case was Op error.
The flicker filter is not a normally applied effect for O.E
I do not fully understand how to edit in HD and make it to where it will work right when exported to SD so that it takes up the full screen.
This depends on how you deliver / display and there are options.
1st Question - why SD delivery in an HD world?
2nd question...what do you call a full screen?
eg. a SD screen with black bars top and bottom. A SD screen that only shows the centre section of an HD image,
I never had trouble with flickering using adobe premiere elements. While you are correct it was my ignorance of this user unfriendly pro version, I would think that a pro version would be even better at handling what 69 dollar program would instead of having to jump through hoops to achieve what a cheaper program does easily with fewer steps.
I am starting to get the hang of this pro version after learning it hidden ways of doing things.
The answer to question 1 is because the broadcast company wants the footage in SD.
2. I call full screen full screen with no bars on top or bottom. Though I just asked the broadcast station if black bars would be ok and they said yes. So, I will probably start editing in hd and export sd, but I am still concerned how the text will work out lining it up with the safe zones. If exporting to sd shrinks it down would that not make me skinny and tall?
There are not any hoops to jump thru really. Using Premiere..I have made hundreds of broadcast TVCs in SD and HD and Mixed sequences. Ver simple and straight forward process.
If you shot HD and edited in a matched HD sequence no problems.
If you shoot HD and drop it in an SD Sequence no problems.
Flicker is an issue that must be O.E. DO you have a very short clip (eg 5 seconds) Must be original source file that we can test for you?.
I have suggested 2 workflows that are basic and fundamental ways for you to work with mixed SD and HD. Both work perfectly and I am not sure what results you got or if you tried them.
I suggested remaking an HD version of your Intro. Solves a lot of workflow problems (and its an HD world).
I asked if you use centre extraction (SD section with sides cut off) of your HD footage . What was the answer?
Your station maybe broadacasting SD FHA ( Full height anamorphic). Are they? (its common practice)
If exporting to sd shrinks it down would that not make me skinny and tall?
I am still concerned how the text will work out lining it up with the safe zones
Its easy to do in HD or SD. One can set up the safe title areas in an HD or an SD Sequence.
Do you have a sample movie (link) of what you are doing so I can see it somewhere?
You have two workflow choices and both can work fine. You need to go with one or the other and we will work that one out for you.
What I meant about jumping through hoops was some basic tools in elements that are not found in pro.
1. Elements allows you to click on the tracker line or whatever it is called and with click either cut through all the tracks or just the one you selected. In pro you have to hold the shift key down to cut all tracks and you have to it manually unless you use Shift control K. However, there is no way as far I have found to have it cut just the clips you have clicked on.
2. Elements allows you to select mutiple clips and simply right click and hit fade in and fade out. Pro does not have this feature and you have to apply a cross dissove, which does not work well if you have a L3 next to a another clip that is title with a background below, because it will not align the dissove correctly and you will have to manually adjust it.
3. Elements had no problems with flickering. Pro does because it so senstive about footage with different frame rates.
i know for sure that the orginal footage does not flicker and is shot in high quality. My error on my end from the best I can tell was not choosing the matching sequecne framerate wise, because that did take care of my flicker problem, but then caused my 29. fps intro to flicker, but the flicker filter took care of that. Let me show what I am talking about. Here is my video with the flicker intro, but the footage is not flickering. https://www.dropbox.com/s/hp437ywdulv7179/haveyouchanged.mpg Based on your experience, do you think my actual footage is high enough quality, or it is still poor.
What would be the best way for me to be able to give you a 5 sec clip of the original since I would have to cut and then export it?
I have not had a chance to make a HD version of the link I just provided. I am going to do that tonight.
I do not use centre extraction. I just extract is a MP2 720x480. It fill the whole screen nothing is cut off.
I am pretty sure the station uses SD FHA if that means complete full screen, but they also have others that submit the HD to SD with the black bars up top and bottom.
I am starting to think that I just need to make the move to HD editing and then exporting to SD so that it will export a hight quality video.
I appreciate your time and your help. The adobe people have not let me down 2 days in row. They said yesterday someone would call twice. Never happend. Then they said they would call me today around 1, Still did not happen. I pretty frustrated with them right now.
You sure have a lot of issues going on for such a simple video which should be as easy as pie to edit.
Fixed camera ...single layer of video and audio plus graphic overlay. A few transitions.
Why the need for cutting thru multiple video tracks? (which can be done BTW)
Why the need for applying transitions in one step? ( which can be easily done BTW)
Premiere Pro is obviously more advanced and capable than Elements. It needs to be to meet the demands of professionals.
That doesnt mean its more complicated though.. Just different and far more options and "power". You have only had CS6 for a few days. There is a learning curve and the penny will drop for you...soon or eventually. Its in the basics and fundamentals.
In fact there are mant ways to "skin the cat' in Premiere.
Now..I dont understand that you are not centre extracting if you are getting nothing cut off. If you put a 16:9 (HD) image in a SD frame..you cut off the sides.
Correct and you learnt something here...
My error on my end from the best I can tell was not choosing the matching sequecne framerate wise, because that did take care of my flicker problem, but then caused my 29. fps intro to flicker, but the flicker filter took care of that.
The adobe people have not let me down 2 days in row
I have forgotten what issue you are approaching them with but almost certain that they wont be able to help.?
I agree it should be as easy as pie to edit, and it was using elements. I use 2 fixed cameras not 1. I usually cut through all the tracks when a verse is on the screen if I mess up. It much faster to apply all my fade in and outs at once. Why would you want to do it one at a time. This is my short video, I also do a 30 min one with different graphics. I also use video clips, and pictures as illustrations as well.
Yeah the sides of the video are cut off because the footage is wider than sd so if that is what you mean that is what I do, but when you watch it there are no black bars on the sides or top or bottom. You did not tell me your opinion on the quality of the video as extracted.
Dont cut thru.
Place the Titles (verses) on a higher video track. They will take video "dominance" over the underlying tracks.
You can easily apply all your transitions in one video layer in one step if you do that.
Sides cut off ..thats fine considering the sunbject matter.
Quality is fine for purpose.
Producing in native HD would be better.
I already put my titles on a higher video layer, but when I am reading the verse and I misread or i don't like what I say after the verse i start over at the end of the verse, which means cutting video for take 2.