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Noisy Transitions

LEGEND ,
Dec 13, 2013 Dec 13, 2013

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There seems to be a new bug with the 7.2 update, such that audio transitions applied to the beginning of a clip will produce a very loud buzz, but only when you play from before the start of that clip.  If you start playback at the beginning of that clip, it seems to work fine.  It also does not seem to affect audio transitions between clips, or at the end of clips.

I'm seeing this using AVCHD media on Windows 7.

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Adobe Employee , Dec 19, 2013 Dec 19, 2013

7.2.1 update is now live. This update addresses the Intermittent Buzzing could occur on audio playback where audio transitions were present as well as other bugs. See more detailts here:

http://forums.adobe.com/message/5945314#5945314

Best,

Peter Garaway

Adobe

Premiere Pro

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Community Expert ,
Dec 13, 2013 Dec 13, 2013

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No issue here. Tested it on avchd, mxf and hdv.

Windows 8.

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Community Expert ,
Dec 13, 2013 Dec 13, 2013

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Ann Bens wrote:

No issue here. Tested it on avchd, mxf and hdv.

Windows 8.

I have to retract that statement...

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Participant ,
Dec 13, 2013 Dec 13, 2013

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I also have this problem.  I'm using uncompressed audio from Sony FS700 .MTS clips.  It happens even with audio clips which are disabled in the timeline.

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New Here ,
Dec 13, 2013 Dec 13, 2013

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YES! I'm getting this with AVCHD media (GH2 files) on OS X 10.9.

On headphones it's quite horrible!

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Adobe Employee ,
Dec 13, 2013 Dec 13, 2013

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Hi All,

We are aware of this issue and are investigating. Thank you for providing details.

Sorry the the inconvenience.

Peter Garaway

Adobe

Premiere Pro

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Enthusiast ,
Dec 13, 2013 Dec 13, 2013

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Count me in. On an 2011 iMac editing AVCHD footage with lots of cross dissolve transitions and exponential fades (and maybe a few constant power fades?) I was just scrubbing through the timeline when that noise hit. Lasted about 3 seconds. It was an old project and it scared the crap out of my 2 year old who was in the room so I closed the project and I'm not going back.

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New Here ,
Dec 13, 2013 Dec 13, 2013

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How do we go back to the previous version 7.1. I have a project that needs to be turned in today. This is not a good thing

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LEGEND ,
Dec 13, 2013 Dec 13, 2013

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Instead of going backwards, just keyframe the volume.

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Engaged ,
Dec 13, 2013 Dec 13, 2013

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There may be no need... my audio transitions sound fine when I exported it to a final file. It's just broken when you try play/preview the timeline within Premiere.

Another way I got around this problem is to duplicate the audio track and then just mute the upper copy. I found that the problem doesn't happen if there's two audio transitions stacked.

Of course, your results may differ from mine... hope it helps.

-Pete

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Enthusiast ,
Dec 13, 2013 Dec 13, 2013

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Arrrrggg!  I want to update to 7.2 but I'll hold off until Adobe fixes this issue surrounding audio transitions.

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LEGEND ,
Dec 13, 2013 Dec 13, 2013

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Ironically Pierre...I put these issues down to feature creep!

Too much attention paid to new features (FR's) and non vital "fixes"

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Enthusiast ,
Dec 13, 2013 Dec 13, 2013

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Nope, just less than perfect QC.

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Participant ,
Dec 13, 2013 Dec 13, 2013

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Would it be possible to write a script that converts all audio transitions to keyframes?

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LEGEND ,
Dec 14, 2013 Dec 14, 2013

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I haven't yet seen this apply to all transitions, only to those at the head of a clip.  Transitions between or at the end of clips seem to be fine.

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New Here ,
Dec 13, 2013 Dec 13, 2013

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Just want to chime in again and say that the audio noises are most definitely making their way to the exports. They sound different than on playback - some are total dropouts, some sounds like stutters/garbles, etc. I haven't been able to get a clean export without removing all audio transitions.

My machine:

Mac Pro 5,1 Mid 2010

Mavericks 10.9

All media ProRes (LT)

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New Here ,
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It does it on export as well. Will try the duplicating audio track but looking like I need to go back a version. Anyway to download 7.1?

Friday the 13th never fails to come through.

Thanks for the help.

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New Here ,
Dec 14, 2013 Dec 14, 2013

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No offense, but wouldn't it just be easier to keyframe tranisitions at the heads of clips rather than downgrading the software? I too am having the issue with transitions, but manual keyframes are working perfectly.

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Participant ,
Dec 14, 2013 Dec 14, 2013

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I have been hearing these noises in the exports too, although it's not nearly as loud as it is in the timeline.

Another workaround is to sent the whole sequence to Audition and back.  Since I was finished with the edit, that was easier than manually keyframing all the transitions in a long sequence.

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Community Beginner ,
Dec 14, 2013 Dec 14, 2013

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It might be easier for a few transitions, but some people may have a large number of them across several projects and sequences.

In a more broad sense, imagine this were a bug that had no work around. There should be a way to roll back to (or reinstall) old versions when these kinds of issues happen.

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LEGEND ,
Dec 14, 2013 Dec 14, 2013

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some people may have a large number of them

You can create a preset to make he job easier.

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Participant ,
Feb 12, 2014 Feb 12, 2014

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I am experienceing the same issue at the start of my clips that have a transition added to them. Really handy to be able to use transitions rather than keyframes for speed. Noises I am experiencing though are not as described above. It is more of a bouncing noise like a spring from a door stop being flicked (hope that made sense) I have an example which I can post to help illustrate if necessary. It seems to affect the Constant Power transition at the start of clip only. It's really annoying also as it is only happening after export via AME. It isn't present in project in Premiere Pro but once I have output I am having to watch the entire project thorugh and picking out where ths issue has occurred. That's the other thing it isn't happening every transition only every so often??

I have gone back to keyframing volume level with pen tool for now but would love to know more about presets for this please?

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LEGEND ,
Feb 12, 2014 Feb 12, 2014

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See post 96.

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New Here ,
Feb 13, 2014 Feb 13, 2014

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Seriously, simply calling this an "uncomfortable noise" is the biggest understatement I've ever heard. I literally thought my ears were gonna bleed after it happened, or at least hearing damage. This is not just a bug fix to make editing easier, this is a health issue. An email should have been sent with a warning. Not cool, Adobe.

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Explorer ,
Mar 06, 2014 Mar 06, 2014

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The issue was first reported on Dec13th last year at which time Jim quoted 10 days for the solution. Its now TWO AND A HALF MONTHS later and it's still wreaking havoc in prodution houses, including ours.

We still cannot download the earlier version of Premiere because the site says we "do not have permission" - Jim, can  you at least post a WORKING link to the old version so we can roll back and finally put  this behind us.

And can you give us an ACCURATE ETA for a fix??

Like others I feel uncomfortable with the health implications of blasting an ear-bleeding noise into the heads of my employees - its a workplace health and safety issue that simply cannot continue. It could well be argued that Adobe is neglegent.

ERROR WHEN DOWNLOADING:

Access Denied

You don't have permission to access "http://trials3.adobe.com/AdobeProducts/PPRO/7/osx10-64/PremierePro_7_LS20.dmg?" on this server.

Reference #18.6dcc387d.1394107504.26191e4

from

http://trials3.adobe.com/AdobeProducts/PPRO/7/osx10-64/PremierePro_7_LS20.dmg?PID=2159997

And yes we have followed the instructions at http://prodesigntools.com/adobe-cc-direct-download-links.html

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