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Problem with importing tagged text

Jan 7, 2014 10:47 AM

I need some help.

 

I have the following text. When I import the file it comes in with the tags as text. How do I import it and have the tags work?

 

 

<ASCII-WIN>
<Version:4><FeatureSet:InDesign-Roman>
<ParaStyle:pTitle>Rig-A-Lite XP and MHD LED
<ParaStyle:pBullet>LED lighting technology for Class II environments
<ParaStyle:pBullet>Provide 60,000 hours of zero-maintenance performance
<ParaStyle:pBullet>Gives the right quality and quantity of light to assure employee productivity and safety
<ParaStyle:pBullet>Saves energy and operational costs
<ParaStyle:pBullet>Comes with a five-year warranty and ability to upgrade the technology
<ParaStyle:pInquiry>Circle ?? on card
<cNextXChars:Box>
<ParaStyle:pTitle>NEXTTEQ LLC VeriFit Irritant Smoke Generators for Respirator Fit Testing
<ParaStyle:pBullet>Patented design integrates all components into one convenient device
<ParaStyle:pBullet>Plastic construction eliminates danger from broken glass
<ParaStyle:pBullet>Small, attached bellows provide the optimum amount of smoke yet minimize overexposure.
<ParaStyle:pBullet>Unlike other test methods, there is no need for nebulizers, pumps, mixing jars, batteries, test masks, probes, or hoods
<ParaStyle:pBullet>No parts to calibrate, warm up, sterilize, or clean
<ParaStyle:pBullet>Complete, safe, ready-to-use, OSHA-compliant fit testing kit
<ParaStyle:pInquiry>Circle ?? on card
<cNextXChars:Box>
<ParaStyle:pTitle>KC Supply Co. Inc. Red Rescue Power-Auger
<ParaStyle:pBullet>Lightweight and Portable
<ParaStyle:pBullet>Use power drill or hand crank
<ParaStyle:pBullet>Power drill can remove approximately one (1) bushel of wheat within 30 seconds
<ParaStyle:pBullet>View auger in operation at Feed & Grain.com by typing in the Search ID:11127075 </a>
<ParaStyle:pInquiry>Circle ?? on card
<cNextXChars:Box>
<ParaStyle:pTitle>Hensley Feed Transportation Equipment TRAM Fall Restraint System
<ParaStyle:pBullet>Creates a completely safe area on top of unit
<ParaStyle:pBullet>Uses 5-Point harness for fall restraint
<ParaStyle:pBullet>OSHA Approved
<ParaStyle:pBullet>Available on Straight Trucks or Trailers
<ParaStyle:pBullet>Can be retro-fitted on existing equipment
<ParaStyle:pInquiry>Circle ?? on card
<cNextXChars:Box>
<ParaStyle:pTitle>Draeger Safety X-plore 1300
<ParaStyle:pBullet>Unique head steap tension adjuster
<ParaStyle:pBullet>Non-irritating textile straps
<ParaStyle:pBullet>2 sizes to choose from
<ParaStyle:pBullet>Available in N95 and R95, with or without comfort valve
<ParaStyle:pInquiry>Circle ?? on card
<cNextXChars:Box>
<ParaStyle:pTitle>RBHM&E Liberty Rescue Tube
<ParaStyle:pBullet>Constructed of four sections easily maneuvered into place
<ParaStyle:pBullet>Patented unit drive prevents damage to interlocking units as they are forced into the grain
<ParaStyle:pBullet>Support handle placed inside the tube can aid the victim
<ParaStyle:pBullet>Tube training available
<ParaStyle:pInquiry>Circle ?? on card
<cNextXChars:Box>
<ParaStyle:pTitle>Flexible Lifeline Systems Twin FlexRail System
<ParaStyle:pBullet>Bypass capability for two workers
<ParaStyle:pBullet>Enclosed track eliminates dust, debris, snow and ice buildup
<ParaStyle:pBullet>Capable of 100-foot spans between supports and 30-foot cantilevers past the end supports
<ParaStyle:pBullet>1:100 movement-to-weight ratio ensures trolley always remains overhead
<ParaStyle:pBullet>Durable <0x2014> up to 25-year life expectancy
<ParaStyle:pInquiry>Circle ?? on card
<cNextXChars:Box>
<ParaStyle:pTitle>Ruwac FRV1400 Portable Electric Explosion Proof Vacuum
<ParaStyle:pBullet>OSHA-compliant 5 HP vacuum with a compact frame designed for explosive dust situations
<ParaStyle:pBullet>Use for point-of-source extraction, general plant housekeeping, and heavy pickup in and around production equipment and storage areas
<ParaStyle:pBullet>Provides years of maximum safety, high performance cleaning, low maintenance costs and easy operation
<ParaStyle:pBullet>Made in the USA and built to order
<ParaStyle:pBullet>ETL certified to UL and CSA standards for Class I Div 1, 2 Group D and Class II Div 1, 2 Group F & G and DS1400-EX explosion-proof
<ParaStyle:pInquiry>Circle ?? on card
<cNextXChars:Box>
<ParaStyle:pTitle>CEEC Inc. Safety Rail System
<ParaStyle:pBullet>Easy to install using our crew or yours
<ParaStyle:pBullet>Durable, powder coated, galvanized decking
<ParaStyle:pBullet>Makes it easy to fill, install top aeration tubes, tarp and monitor grain pile
<ParaStyle:pInquiry>Circle ?? on card
<cNextXChars:Box>
<ParaStyle:pTitle>MSA Workman Personal Fall Limiter (PFL)
<ParaStyle:pBullet>Features a standard 400-pound maximum working capacity
<ParaStyle:pBullet>Assemble-to-order (ATO) flexibility
<ParaStyle:pBullet>Length options from 6- to 12-feet
<ParaStyle:pBullet>Optional field-replaceable lifeline
<ParaStyle:pInquiry>Circle ?? on card
<cNextXChars:Box>
<ParaStyle:pTitle>WALINGA INC. Fall Restraint
<ParaStyle:pBullet>Easy to operate
<ParaStyle:pBullet>Air-operated or manually operated
<ParaStyle:pBullet>Auto fold-down
<ParaStyle:pInquiry>Circle ?? on card
<cNextXChars:Box>
<ParaStyle:pTitle>Hy-Safe Technology Fall Protection Installations
<ParaStyle:pBullet>Turnkey provider of OSHA fall protection solutions
<ParaStyle:pBullet>Service includes assessment, design, engineering, fabrication, installation, testing, certification and training
<ParaStyle:pBullet>Fabrications and installations of platforms, steel supports, ladders, catwalks and guard rails
<ParaStyle:pInquiry>Circle ?? on card
<cNextXChars:Box>
<ParaStyle:pTitle>KC Supply Co. Inc. Rescue Wall
<ParaStyle:pBullet>Unique, patent-pending design
<ParaStyle:pBullet>Unlimited configurations from ball-and-socket pivot and bend in panel
<ParaStyle:pBullet>Round tube, straight barrier wall, S-curve, C-shape
<ParaStyle:pBullet>Durable #6061 grade aluminum
<ParaStyle:pBullet>Simple installation
<ParaStyle:pInquiry>Circle ?? on card
<cNextXChars:Box>
<ParaStyle:pTitle>Fall Protection Systems Corp. Platform Access Systems
<ParaStyle:pBullet>Turnkey, custom engineered solutions
<ParaStyle:pBullet>Overhead fall protection hybrid solutions
<ParaStyle:pBullet>Standard platform options available
<ParaStyle:pInquiry>Circle ?? on card
<cNextXChars:Box>
<ParaStyle:pTitle>FHF Safety Products Ex-ResistTel Hazardous Area Telephone
<ParaStyle:pBullet>Ideally suited for any tough industrial application indoors or outdoors
<ParaStyle:pBullet>Can be integrated with virtually any analog telephone system
<ParaStyle:pBullet>Rugged glass fiber reinforced polymer construction requires no additional enclosure and has type 4x environmental ratings
<ParaStyle:pBullet>All electronics are fully encapsulated and protected from corrosive and humid environments
<ParaStyle:pBullet>UL Approved for Class 1, Division 2 Groups A, B, C and D
<ParaStyle:pBullet>Includes a programmable alphanumeric display
<ParaStyle:pInquiry>Circle ?? on card
<cNextXChars:Box>

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks

 
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    Jan 7, 2014 11:19 AM   in reply to inkgraphics

    I would suggest you export a sample as tagged text from ID so you can see the correct structure. Looks to me like one problem may be there are no style definitions.

     
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    Jan 7, 2014 12:05 PM   in reply to inkgraphics

    Hmmmm.

     

    When I copied the text from the email you sent originally it did no import correctly, but when I recopied from your post in the browser it does, which makes me think it might be an encoding problem. Try showing the import options.

     
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    Jan 7, 2014 12:11 PM   in reply to inkgraphics

    Saved your file as ascii file and placed it in Indesign (CC). Option: use tagged file info and make sure the styles are created before importing the text. All imported without any problem. Make sure the style names are exactly the same as the tagged styles.

     
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    Jan 7, 2014 12:12 PM   in reply to inkgraphics

    Are these some sort of labels? I did what Peter did, copy/paste to Notepad and placed it in ID CC and I get like 15 pages with seven lines of text on each. I'm using Windows 8.1

     
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    Jan 7, 2014 12:22 PM   in reply to Ellis home

    I think the <cNextXChars:Box> tag is some sort of frame break.

     
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    Jan 7, 2014 1:39 PM   in reply to inkgraphics

    Are you saying you re-saved the exisiting tagged text file in Word? DON'T do that!

     

    If you have to resave it (you shouldn't need to) do it ina plain text editor like NotePad or TextEdit (and make sure you choose plain text as the format).

     
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    Jan 7, 2014 2:29 PM   in reply to inkgraphics

    Why are opening and resaving the orignal file? You should NOT do that (especially since you are going cross-platform here). Just place it and, if it doesn't come in correctly, show the import options and fiddle around to see what works.

     
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    Jan 7, 2014 3:07 PM   in reply to inkgraphics

    Since the first tag says Win ASCII, the first thing I'd try is change the platform to Windows

     
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    Jan 7, 2014 3:28 PM   in reply to inkgraphics

    I think it's time to examine what your colleagues are doing more carefully. I'm out of suggestions.

     
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    Jan 7, 2014 3:34 PM   in reply to inkgraphics

    As I said earlier, I was able to place it and I get 15 pages with a few lines per page. And Gert was also able to place it. But we got the information copy/pasting what you posted here. What are you supposed to get from this document?

     
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    Jan 7, 2014 4:38 PM   in reply to inkgraphics

    What extension does the original file has? .txt? We'll see if Gert is still following this post and tell us what he got.

     
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    Jan 7, 2014 5:27 PM   in reply to inkgraphics

    As far as I know, tagged text isn't going to create a layout. But if you create and thread the frames first, make sure to have the styles named correctly before bringing in the tagged text, it all should just work.

     

    Oh. The </a> in your text ought to be removed. It will throw up an error that is non-fatal. But I would think the html attribute should be removed.

     

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    I would get the sample document that works and try again. Else I can zip up the sample I just created and upload it.

     

    Mike

     
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    Jan 7, 2014 7:28 PM   in reply to inkgraphics

    tagged_text.txt is the tagged file from above.

    tagged_text_01.indd is the empty ID file with threaded frames.

    tagged_text_02.indd is a file with the tagged text file already placed for comparison.

     

    I used Arial, I am using a Windows computer but that shouldn't matter. You can substitute the font of your choice should you get a missing font warning.

     

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/vwzmxicvmdjyfmi/tagged_text.zip

     
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    Jan 7, 2014 10:26 PM   in reply to MW Design

    Sorry for the delay, time difference I think,

     

    I just tried the tagged text file from the dropbox. All works fine for me. Working on a win7 64b in Indesing CC. What did I do: saved .txt file and when placing it, select show import options. This gives me the "Adobe Indesign tagged text import options panel". Select in the "resolve style conflict" the option "Tagged file information".

    As said above: create the styles and text boxes first, then import the file. It gave no problem on my machine.

     
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    Jan 7, 2014 10:32 PM   in reply to inkgraphics

    Normally it should open a panel with the "Indesign tagged text options". Because you're on a Mac, it doesn't seem te see the "tagged text".

    Just one thought: first line "ascii-win", did you try to change it to ascii-mac"? Make a new file, drop some text into it and export it as tagged text on the mac. Open the tagged file in an editor and see what the first line reads. Copy that one into the tagged file you want to import (make a copy first).

     
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    Jan 8, 2014 5:19 AM   in reply to Gert Verrept

    @Gert – I followed this thread with amazement.

     

    And tried to copy/paste the text in the first post to TextEdit on OSX 10.6.8 and further tried to place it as tagged text in InDesign CS5.5.

     

    No chance (I did not try every possible encoding, because this list is quite large >80 options).

    InDesign always thought it would be a "normal" text and placed the codes or because of wrong encoding treated it as tagged text, but got the encoding totally wrong and placed garbage.

     

    I did not give up.
    Instead of TextEdit I used TextWrangler then and saved the copied text from the first post as text with the following options:

     

    Line breaks: Windows (CLRF)
    Encoding: Unicode (UTF-8)

     

    Now InDesign recognized the text as tagged text and placed it in the right way.

     

    Uwe

     
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    Jan 8, 2014 5:27 AM   in reply to Laubender

    I just want to add:

    1. In the moment InDesign is showing the panel for text placement (instead the one for tagged text), you know, that something is wrong with your encoding of your tagged text and you can cancel the action.

     

    2. Maybe TextEdit is capable of doing the right encoding. But I did not test all possible options.

     

    3. The free TextWrangler obviously is the right tool for that task:

     

    http://www.barebones.com/products/textwrangler/

     

    Uwe

     
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    Jan 8, 2014 5:33 AM   in reply to Laubender

    @Laubender - Great. I work on windows platform so it's difficult to get the same results (or problems). As you said, if the import panel isn't showing the right options for tagged text, something is wrong. Never had the problem with Notepad.

    If Indesign puts the text "as is", inded means that the "tagging" isn't recognized.

     
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