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New to Web Design/Development - Need some advice

Feb 25, 2014 10:57 AM

I have decided to start doing some web work w/ a startup company a buddy is running. The site is currently set up in Expression Engine and I personally do not like the look of it. I am a creative cloud subscriber and currently use AE, PP, Photoshop etc for some design work. I just started with this and I am really enjoying it. I love Adobe products and was thinking that I could redo the site in Edge Animate, Dreamweaver and/or even Muse. The goal is to have a paid site, general content and also a member’s area w/ paid content. I have some experience in programming from my Computer Science days but it has been a long long time. I was just looking for some help to see if this is doable and possible get some help on a good approach to learning and doing this. Thanks for your time.

 

Mark

 
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    Feb 25, 2014 1:22 PM   in reply to Trebin

    It sounds like you have the basis for a good design background, but the question is whether you can take that, or should take that to coding.  If your friend is a good coder, there is no reason you couldn't help them by using your designs.

     

    Additionally, I would highly recommend staying towards Edge and Dreamweaver.  Muse is really for those who do not wish to do code and you could find yourself limited by Muse's capabilities depending on what you need to accomplish.

     
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    Feb 25, 2014 1:52 PM   in reply to Trebin

    So, you will be designing not coding? If not, then don't even think of using DW without a reasonable familarity with HTML and CSS.

     
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    Feb 26, 2014 3:48 AM   in reply to Trebin

    Expression Engine is a content management system, somewhat like Wordpress. That means several things:

     

    1. The "content" of the site is stored in a database, and pulled from that database as needed

    2. That being the case, there is really ever only 1 page on the site which is given different content to display based on which navigation element you select.

    3. That being the case, the single page of the site draws its 'boilerplate' elements (header, footer, etc.) from code fragments (used as includes) that allow that page to be built from the pieces (boilerplate and content) on demand.

     

    Doing any modifications to the "look" of the site would require that you become familiar with how EE puts all of those pieces together. It goes way beyond just HTML and CSS into the world of server scripting to achieve this functionality. As a result I'm afraid that your choices are:

     

    1. Acquire the knowledge to work within the EE environment
    2. Completely redo the site as a static (i.e., not dynamic) site thereby eliminating EE altogether
    3. Hire someone already familiar with EE to implement a new look leaving the content and functionality in place

     

    Your choice.

     

    Can you give us a link to the site so that we can get an idea of the scope of this job? It may be that EE is being used in an "overkill" fashion.

     

    As far as "working with Expression Engine", normally you don't use something like Dreamweaver at all, rather using the built-in and online tools of the CMS for your page layout and content editing. There is a convenience to doing it this way that offsets the disadvantage of working outside of DW.

     
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    Feb 26, 2014 2:28 PM   in reply to Trebin

    Do you have skills in the server scripting technology that 'updates' or 'articles' would require?

     
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    Feb 26, 2014 5:33 PM   in reply to Trebin

    Then I think you may need to stick with cleaning up the images. We can help you some but for someone without experience in PHP to take on this job is a tall order.

     
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    Feb 26, 2014 11:18 PM   in reply to Trebin

    You probably will need some tutorials on the programs you need to use. Become a specialist in one area and grow from there. There are lots of inexpensive classes/tutorals online that you can benefit from. Good Luck

     
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    Mar 7, 2014 6:28 AM   in reply to Trebin

    If you are determined to move ahead with this, it will take lots of preparation. Go to the adobe dev site and read everything that David Powers has there. Go through his tutorials. Then try to build a simple upload site on your server. That will give you a feel for the scope of your desired project.

     
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