Donald,

that's a nice shot! I'm not sure which I like better, the purple flower or the shot of the moth :)

Regarding your "final shot here before bidding you all farewell", I truly hope you don't mean that. I have enjoyed seeing your photos and have learned how to do some special things in PS because of your participation. I hope you, minimally, lurk and read what is offered here and futher hope that at some point you will compelled to actually post here.

I am very sorry that you don't feel you have a place in this forum. :(

Regards,
hopper

I'm taking it that he means in this particular thread - hopefully.

I swore,i was finished last night, but feel the need to clarify. I feel i have very little advice or substance to add to the highly skilled crew that resides in the photo forum. I also felt that my continuing to participate was keeping others from joining in the dialog,because of resentment for me from the other fiasco.I just continue to feel responsible,and this is my way of saying sorry. Perhaps i will look here for advice, but think my bowing out will be best for all parties. <br /> <br /> Many times i feel i am walking a tightrope between being helpful, and appearing to be overzealous.I also tend to read a lot into things,and this is just my negative personality.In this very forum,i expected to see loads of contributions,and to me it seemed that the more i got involved, the less frequently i saw others adding photos,and i came to the conclusion,that i was driving others away. <br /> <br />I have a real love of photography,especially nature,and my enthusiasm to see it and share it can get misinterpreted. I appreciate the kind words,but i have this overwhelming feeling that i have caused some individuals to step away that are of greater value than i can ever hope to be. this is unfortunate because other people suffer,due to me. please understand that this decision did not come lightly for me,but one i hope to abide by. perhaps i will return, because one day i am up,and the next down. Thank God if you never have to experience the wonderful roller coaster ride that mild depression can bring. <br /> <br /> Now that i poured my bleeding heart out, if you need a good laugh,go read the flame warriors lounge forum,and visit the website shown. i saw myself there in more than one description. its funny to see yourself and others from a neutral point of view. The saddest part for me, is knowing i will miss out on all the discussions with the people i feel i have become friends with. Continue on in your endeavors and maybe one day i will feel the need to return. Like Tori Amos says " Oh these little earthquakes, doesnt take much to rip us into pieces". WOW, that should give some psychology student something to analyze,and those that hate me will now have plenty of ammo to blast me apart with. I guess the bottom line is i just cannot run with the big dogs,so i guess i better stay on the porch. <br />enjoy this photo. It looks like me right now. i am on the left.sorry,not a macro,but funny. <br /> <br /> <a href="http://www.pixentral.com/show.php?pic=1lakq8Fpr7wroEwU1gyCZdoBq Y0j" /></a> <img src="http://www.pixentral.com/hosted/1lakq8Fpr7wroEwU1gyCZdoBqY0j_thu mb.jpg" border="0" />

Donald, forum activity is often kinda tidal - sometimes nothing much is going on, sometimes there's a lot of stuff flowing back and forth. Works for individuals too - sometimes we see a lot of certain people, then they get busy in their "real" life and they're not seen here for a while.

Chief thing is your membership doesn't lapse if you can't stop by for a while! Just join in when you feel like it, and that will be great, but there's bound to times when your personal inclination or other committments keep you away - and then we'll keep your seat warm.

Dirck, i will put the toilet seat up just in case.

HO
I just wanted to say that Ramon and I have communicated our feelings privately to each other and i think we both feel better about the situation.Yeah i know artists are funny. just look at me and all my crazy speeches.Keep those photos coming,i enjoy each persons perspective.

Tough up, Donald! You know that I have been very pleased to see you here, sharing your wonderful images, good spirit and good character. I hope you stay.

You say that you believe there are people who are not participating because they feel resentment toward you. Remember that you cannot change the consequences that the acts of others have upon themselves. That is for them to do when they can. All you can do for them is point. We should feel compassion for the suffering their mental afflictions cause them, but to join them in their affliction does not help in any way, does it?

Also, leaving for the sake of those who wish not to participate is somewhat unkind to those who do. The people who are participating in this forum are not chopped liver.

This should be a place for us to share our photography. I think that's why Adobe is sponsoring it for us.

Folks, chill out. Let's talk about photography, PS or whatever techie stuff suits. All this interpersonal nonsense belongs on the Dear Abby forum.

Dear Adobe,

I hear lots of people have CS2 and I don't. I don't think that's fair. Please help.

Signed,

BlueGreen

I love new software.

It seems that the people who ordered stand-alone versions of Photoshop CS2 were the ones who were getting theirs first although Adobe's site is now showing CS2 Premium as "Shipping" too.

Yippee!

My computer will go into meltdown if I try to run PSCS2 on it! ;) It's practically turning into a byte puddle just running Nikon Capture, Nikon View and PSCS at the same time!

I need a new system ....

I notice that the price of the CS2 Premium Upgrade is now showing up as "Pending" on my credit card so I guess it really is on its way.

:-)

Todd:

Was that the complete PREMIUM Suite ?

They must be shipping in alphabetical order.

Grrrr  No'fair I ordered at 8:00 a.m. on the day that it was OFFICIALLY (!) announced.

:-(

I told them to send it here. You don't mind, do you?

I have the impression that the Browser was changed rather radically in CS2. I do not have the suite, only Photoshop 8, so I do not need the "Bridge". The browser is just the way I like it right now.

Ann,

That's my guess. I'm just impressed on the GROWTH of the installation package - between CS and CS2 (double in CDs).

I haven't scanned the CD's closely so maybe there's something on them and Adobe was saving on CS2 packaging. The CD's, on my quick glance, looked the same as the old CS CD's. I'm not home at the moment so I don't have them in front of me.

Ooops! How did I end up here? I was searching for one of your posts, Ann, and the subject matter of this one did not alert me to the fact that it's in the Photography forum. Sorry. I'm extremely fatigued.

Still, get CS2 as soon as you can.

See you on the other side, down the hall.