That's very decent of you to come back and apologize. I know what tech support frustrations can be like only too well. My wife and I recently debated whether it had taken me more or fewer than 10 calls to our cable provider's tech support to get them to do the right stuff on their end to get our wireless gateway up and running! Gah. But I've spent a couple of days at an Adobe tech support call center, and I can attest that there are few tougher jobs (not counting physical laborers) than tech support.
Anyway, you have several options:
- switch your OS keyboard settings to the appropriate language keyboard and type directly in that language.
- use the Mac OS character palette, and view the correct Unicode range for the language you want. A little less hunt-and-peck than the Glyph Palette for this purpose. Note that you must have the same font selected in the character palette as in InDesign.
- use the "glyph sets" feature of the InDesign Glyph Palette to get just the glyphs you use most commonly as a group.
I actually wrote a lengthy article on the glyph palette for the latest issue of InDesign Magazine, which you might find useful/interesting.
Dan,<br />>First, that a diplomatic (even if visibly frustrated) query is always better than a display of temper. Mea maxima culpa.<br /><br />Thanks -- I know it isn't easy to come back with an apology. But it does mean a lot to us.<br /><br />Except for the occasional (and much appreciated) posts by Thomas and Dov, just about all others are from Adobe product end users like you, volunteering some time here, and probably postponing stuff that we should be doing around the house. <vbg><br /><br />Neil
Oh, well, the more obvious it is that one is completely WRONG and has behaved extremely foolishly, the easier it is to apologize --- really, my face was the color of the Adobe logo. :) Thanks, Thomas, for pointing me to your article. I'll grab a hold of it ASAP!
I think you will find the fonts in one of the folders included with your download, unless the academic version does not include these "goodies" -- I don't recall. If you are still having a problem, check with Adobe customer service.
I'm not clear about which fonts you mean by "the basic fonts" versus "all these fonts" versus "any other fonts." If you could be more specific about which fonts you don't have that you thought you should have, that would help (as well as which fonts you do have that came with the Suite).
>The ones I am missing and trying to instal are the likes of
Check the list at the head of this topic. None of the fonts you want are included with your Adobe software. The Garamond included with CS would be Adobe Garamond ("AGaramond"). Other fonts you mention appear to be system fonts.
Are you sure you installed CS fonts when you installed your software? How did you attempt to install your new fonts? When you installed, did you elect to include your fonts? If you do a search of your system, do any of the names listed at the top of this topic appear? (I work with Macintoshes, so I can't tell you precisely where to look on your XP system.)
Under XP the fonts should be in
C:/Program Files/Common Files/Adobe/Fonts, regardless of where CS was installed. I don't recall if installing the fonts was an installion option. They should be available when running Adode programs without any further action. To use them in other, non-CS programs, they need to be installed in the system font folder (using the Fonts control panel).
I have had another go at the fonts folder in CS, indesign/ fonts folder.
I have managed to successfully install a TT (true type?) font file into the indesign fonts file (my faithful Futura!) which is working for me in indesign. The other files I still cannot install, but I see they are not TT font files.
Am I correct in thinking my CS for windows XP only accepts TT font files? If this is so, that is why I cannot load the other fonts I am wanting.
So.... if this is the case, if one wants a font installed like the "blur" family, do I have to purchase an expensive TT font file or can I obtain these fonts through the adobe CS which I own?
Thank you... I badly needed futura in there so feel I have made a start..........
TrueType versions of fonts (with only a handful of very specific exceptions) are NOT Adobe fonts. And they would not be bundled with your CS product. They can be installed alongside Type 1 and OpenType fonts, as long as you do not have multiple fonts with the exact same name.
In addition to the above posts, I would strongly recommend that you do some reading on font installation and activation for the Windows XP platform, so that all of your fonts can be accessed in any application you have.
Adobe products can use whatever fonts you have installed on your system. There
isn't any need to install fonts into "the indesign/fonts folder". Just install
fonts into windows, and all of your programs, including Adobe's, will have
access to them. Assuming that you're on some flavor of Windows XP, this will
include Type 1 (Postscript) fonts, OpenType fonts, and TrueType fonts.
To install additional fonts in windows,
Start / Settings / Control Panel / Fonts
Then, from the FILE menu, "Install new fonts"
It's possible that if you didn't install all of the Suite's applications, that
you then it didn't install all of the bundled fonts. (Neil? Tom?). Either way,
the 34 fonts comprising Garamond Premium Pro are NOT physically bundled with the
suite, but are only available as a download after you register the product.
The Adobe products, when installed, install bundled fonts into unique Adobe
directories. The actual location varies with the product, and possibly with the
version of the product, but they're usually in either an application sub-folder
or in a common folder such as c:\program files\common files\adobe\fonts.
This makes them INaccessible to other applications. In my opinion, they should
all be re-installed in the standard Windows manner.
>It's possible that if you didn't install all of the Suite's applications, that
you then it didn't install all of the bundled fonts. (Neil? Tom?)
I'll defer to Thomas on this one. It's been awhile since I installed the complete CS product (Macintosh). And I had no problem including the bundled fonts with my other installed fonts. But the specifics evade me, now...
Personally (and regardless of platform), I'm not a fan of specific install locations for some fonts just to make them easily accessable to Adobe products. With the exception of system-required fonts, I want ALL my non-application-specific fonts placed in an organized system of folders that I create, which I access to activate and deactivate via a decent font manager.
Christine.<br /><br />Absolutely, positively, ununequivocally, most assuredly, without reservation, not true. <vbg> Macintosh or Windows.<br /><br />Your choice: TrueType, OpenType, PostScript Type 1...you can mix and match as you please. Just make sure that you do not have multiple fonts installed with the exact same font name.<br /><br />With a very few narrow exceptions, all of Adobe's font releases have been (originally) PostScript Type 1 (single and multiple masters) and (now) OpenType.<br /><br />Neil