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    Sep 2, 2006 6:11 PM   in reply to Ian Lyons
    Please add native support for AWR files (from the Sony DSLR-A100) ASAP!
     
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  • PECourtejoie
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    Sep 3, 2006 1:04 PM   in reply to Ian Lyons
    In bold, on top:
    >"If you're asking that a particular camera is supported in a future release or just taking the opportunity to carp that yours isn't then please do so in another thread!"
     
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    Sep 6, 2006 3:13 PM   in reply to Ian Lyons
    John, so it is. Though I never noticed that info ever after several years of using ACR. Obviously, not the most obvious place for the info! Very top of window if anybody else missed it.

    I'd still like to see EV values though as it's simpler for comparisons. I'd like to see the info under the histogram as that would make more sense.
     
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    Sep 25, 2006 10:30 AM   in reply to Ian Lyons
    How about this:

    1) Being able to create Additive/Substractive White Balance/Hue templates: As of now (unless I am wrong) you can hardcode a specific temperature, but cannot create, say, a template that adds or removes 50K. This would be very very very useful when photos were not taken in the exact same lighting conditions, and white balance is fine tuned for each one. With this kind of templates you could, after that, make them all a little bit warmer/cooler while retaining their independent temperature/hue values.

    2) I do not know if this belongs to this team, but Bridge URGENTLY needs some decent metadata search capabilities (like "Show me all pictures shot at ISO 800" or "Show me all pictures with exp.comp. > 0.3). Absolutely any metadata field should be searchable independently. Apple grasped this ages ago. What's holding Adobe? (or at least just leverage those technologies if the OS gives them for free Spotlight for XMP? Smart Folders? Etc.)
     
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    Sep 25, 2006 11:29 AM   in reply to Ian Lyons
    Bridge feature requests should go to the Bridge team (not related to the ACR team) in the Bridge forums.
     
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    Sep 25, 2006 11:37 AM   in reply to Ian Lyons
    1000 excuses, and thank you for the tip. Just filed #2 at Bridge forums.
     
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    Sep 25, 2006 11:40 AM   in reply to Ian Lyons
    Thanks!
     
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  • Omke Oudeman
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    Sep 26, 2006 2:14 PM   in reply to Ian Lyons
    In addition of post 235

    It would be very nice that adding any chancing to multiple images at once in the correction window would real mean adding in stead of giving the same settings from the first image to all the next.

    For example, I'm used to put a light and dark version of the file together for a wider Dynamic Range. After making the global settings for each photo (they are very often made in different lighting conditions) I start brighten the images.

    Save this bunch and start over again and darken it. Now I have to go through this again at each photo. Select all and ad my settings the earlier settings are set the same as the first file, instead of automatically ad for instance 4 shadow etc to the existing settings.

    By the way, don't know if it's only my System but I find ACR 3.5 working faster in background than 3.4 :-)

    regards

    Omke
     
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    Oct 11, 2006 8:44 AM   in reply to Ian Lyons
    I would like the Calibrate tab in ACR to become a fully fledged Hue/Sat feature, as in CS2. i.e. I would like a drop down menu of colours (Reds, Greens, etc...) to edit and a Lightness slider.

    This would permit total colour correction (e.g. using a Gretag CC as reference) to be performed less destructively within ACR before conversion.

    The current Hue/Sat feature in ACR is 'Mickey Mouse' to put it mildly. As Fraser admits, you can only get close using it. In CS2, I can get precise RGB values for each patch.

    The problem is that in CS2, I can only take 4 colour samples, whereas in ACR I can take 9.

    In summary, neither program is fully set up to cope with this workflow.

    D.
     
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    Oct 19, 2006 11:46 PM   in reply to Ian Lyons
    As a Canon user I would appreciate the option to display focusing points in ACR (show red rectangles in locations wherethe image was focused).

    I would also like to see the ACR update incorporated to the automatic updates that CS2 products have.

    I think you are doing fantastic job with ACR and it is great that you listen to users.
     
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    Nov 1, 2006 1:04 PM   in reply to Ian Lyons
    1) Support multiple sets of global raw params per file with ability to tag them with meaningful names. for example, exp -2, exp -1, exp 0, exp +1, exp +2 tags would be useful for sets combined into a single HDR composite.

    2) Ability to apply separate conversion settings to selected areas within an image, including selections within selections. This might be an alternate way to handle HDR images. You could brighten shadows, apply more contrast to clouds, tone down burned out reflections, apply accurate white balance to individual areas, soften some regions while sharpening others, remove color and limunance noise locally, etc.

    Basically #2 is CS2 adjustment layers applied to selections in the raw image at the appropriate step in the conversion from raw to RGB data.

    3) Multiple cropping sets per file to support different output aspect ratios: 2x3, 3x4, 5x7.

    If at least #2 and #3 were supported, DNG could more easily be the true master file for all images taken in raw format. There are still things that would require a PSD master file like multiple combined images in layers with special masks, special adjustment layers with masks, etc.

    I think it would be easier to track images through a single file than through multiple files, and it would save significant disc space.
     
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    Nov 11, 2006 7:25 AM   in reply to Ian Lyons
    When one opens a bunch of images in ACR it would be very handy to be able to do a sort by exposure. Say for arguments sake, I decide to take some photos at EV6 and some at EV7 in the same lighting and when I'm in ACR I find EV6.5 is the best tweak, if I've alternated between exposures I have to do lots of separate adjustments or select each shot at EV6, tweak. Then select each shot at EV7 and tweak. Whereas if I could sort by EV then it would be a doddle to do.
    Plus occasionaly I find when shooting manual, the shutter or Aperture setting can be accidentally altered when moving camera around and the odd shot is a different exposure.
     
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    Nov 13, 2006 11:00 AM   in reply to Ian Lyons
    But seeing as 'Sort' in Bridge is quite annoying in use, that's not what I'm after, I'm afraid Ian. But, it may well have to do for now. Ta.
    Hiding 'Sort', a very frequentlty used tool down in menus which often means two trips as 'ascending + 'Descending' often needs to be altered too. I've mentioned it on Bridge requests, but doesn't harm to mention how annoying it is yet again. Hint Hint! Other programmes use the tool bar for tools, why can't Bridge? Lots of nice empty space there.

    As for ACR, it would still be useful as one isn't aleways aware how best to sort images for tweaking until one is in ACR. So my request still stands. It would be very useful, as using various sorts from within ACR could aid workflow enormously. Place sort type in a drop down menu just above Thumbnails and ascending/descending next to it. And it would make my life [and others, as I doubt I'm unique in this area]a lot easier. I'll try Ian's work around for now, but it is a work around and most certainly not a solution. Not blaming you Ian, so thanks for the tip anyway.

    Though possibly LR may make all this moot, if it ties in with PS and Bridge properly.
     
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    Nov 13, 2006 4:00 PM   in reply to Ian Lyons
    How about having the program sort and display thumbnails in cronological order. Right now RAW seems to process and sort images in the side bar randomly. This is a real pain if you are keeping track of frame numbers...etc. for shooting long-roll jobs.
     
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    Nov 14, 2006 7:14 AM   in reply to Ian Lyons
    I would like a switch to disable the auto-resolve naming feature or a save-as button so that I can overwrite an existing DNG.
     
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    Nov 14, 2006 7:45 AM   in reply to Ian Lyons
    Harvey see my request a few posts above and Ian's response.
     
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    Dec 25, 2006 8:15 PM   in reply to Ian Lyons
    It would be nice to see Lens cast removal in ACR. In my experience, shooting with the Phase One P25 and P45, Aptus 22 and 75, and also the Sinar eMotion 75, there are color casts that need to be removed. This happens with view cameras and cameras with swings and tilts.

    I would love to use ACR to process my P45 files, but without any method of color cast removal, it is impossible.

    Each of these manufacturers uses a reference shot made of a wide Plexi card to calculate and remove the color shift from additional captures.

    It is my understanding that other third party software developers are looking into adding this feature into their RAW processing software programs.
     
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    Dec 26, 2006 5:53 AM   in reply to Ian Lyons
    Eric,

    Why not use a Gretag Macbeth as a reference for colour cast removal?

    Dinarius.
     
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    Dec 26, 2006 9:20 AM   in reply to Ian Lyons
    Here is a PDF released by Leaf describing the color casts and Leaf's solution...

    http://leaf-photography.com/files/docs/techBulletin/Cast_Effects_in_Wi de_Angle_Photography.pdf

    Here is a PDF from Phase One describing their cast issues and software solution....

    http://www.phaseone.com/KBFiles/1557/1/LCCMac.pdf
     
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    Jan 20, 2007 7:17 AM   in reply to Ian Lyons
    Move more information from Nikon spesific metadata to XMP.

    When I convert NEF files in LR it shows "Flash: Did not fire" for pictures where I use the Commander mode with my flash system. Looking into the DNG file with exiftool I find:

    ---- XMP-exif ----
    Flash Fired : False
    Flash Return : No return detection
    Flash Mode : Unknown
    Flash Function : False
    Flash Red Eye Mode : False

    ---- Nikon ----
    Flash Setting : Normal
    Flash Type : Comdr.,TTL
    Flash Exposure Compensation : -4/3
    Flash Exposure Bracket Value : 0.0
    Flash Mode : Fired, Commander Mode

    Looking into the NEF file with the exiftool I can see that Nikon in the exif section is the source for this error. I guess they don't use this setting at all in their own software:

    Flash : No Flash

    Is it possible to get a Nikon bug fix in the future to get correct info for Nikon cameras?
     
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    Feb 16, 2007 7:30 PM   in reply to Ian Lyons
    In the "Workflow Options" palette, it would be helpful to have one other piece of information. When changing "Depth", "Size", and or "Resolution" it would be great to have the final file size listed. An example, Space: Adobe RGB (1998), Depth: 8 bits/channel, Size: 4368 by 2912 (12.7 MP) and Resolution 240 pixels/ inch, and a new window with (File Size: 36.4 mb). Currently this information is only available after you process the Raw file.

    Thanks,
    Kim
     
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    Feb 24, 2007 5:54 AM   in reply to Ian Lyons
    First off, ACR4 is simply incredible! In terms of pure RAW image manipulation it is massive improvement on ACR3. The addition of 'Recovery' and 'Fill Light' alone have almost made HDR redundant. Fantastic!

    But, I have a few suggestions.......

    1. The option (as in Photoshop) to alter the size of the Colour Sampler Tool's samples. Ideally, though, I'd like 1x1, 5x5 and 10x10.

    Edited: I have only just discovered that a raft of sample sizes have been added to CS3 (great!). A couple of these in ACR would be nice.

    2. The option of *both* RGB and percentage samples (as in Lightroom).

    3. The option (if this is indeed possible) of Lab color sampler readings. (While I'm at it, would it be possible to have a 'Convert to Lab' option?)

    4. Seperate RGB Channels in the Tone Curve. This would permit, for example, establishing the exact individual RGB values of the grey scale in a Gretag Macbeth Color Checker. Obviously, this can be done in CS2/3, but I'd like to be able to do it in the non-destructive, pre-conversion way that ACR permits. (If it is possible to achieve precise values in ACR, please tell me how.)

    Thanks.

    D.
     
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    Mar 9, 2007 10:41 AM   in reply to Ian Lyons
    I would like to see some sort of indicator to tell me when Camera Raw is in Auto mode. Maybe it's just me, but occasionally I discover that I have been switched to Auto when I hadn't intended to do that. Just an indicator, not a switch.
     
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    Mar 11, 2007 11:38 AM   in reply to Ian Lyons
    I second Jim Hess' idea of an indicator on ACR sliders. I am thinking of a change of color in the slider "line" so that when you use the slider handle, the line itself changes to a different color. This visual indicator could be different, depending on whether your changes are higher or lower (left or right) of where ACR would place the auto setting for that slider. This way, I can tell when I have made an adjustment to a particular slider. What are the chances of getting something like this implemented?
     
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    Mar 12, 2007 9:25 AM   in reply to Ian Lyons
    I wasn't thinking of anything that sophisticated. I was thinking of something as simple as "Auto Adjustment Enabled" being displayed in the top area of the Camera Raw dialogue, that disappears when Auto is turned off.
     
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    Mar 14, 2007 11:04 AM   in reply to Ian Lyons
    Enable Synchronized *Relative* changes:

    After custom adjusting a dozen image, all with a variety of settings, lighten all by the same amount, or warm them all just touch. Rather than setting absolute, "Exposure=+.25"
     
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    Mar 14, 2007 11:09 AM   in reply to Ian Lyons
    Allow multiple xmp for one image that are recognized as co-equal, maybe with comment, e.g., xmp 1="balanced for window light" xmp 2 = "b/w with dark shadows"

    Leads to two features a) In batch process mode leads to multiples files if there are multiple xmp files b) With button-mode "select xmp", use could move through each correction to find favorite (or with arrow keys)
     
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    Mar 14, 2007 11:14 AM   in reply to Ian Lyons
    Button Mode (relative and/or absolute) to increase/decrease setting:
    [temp=3000][temp=4000][temp=5000]
    or
    [exposure: increase .25][Exposure: decrease .25]
    (I know this can be done with arrow key if setting is highlighted, but this would allow quick exposure change with just a mouse click)
     
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    Mar 14, 2007 11:16 AM   in reply to Ian Lyons
    single-key toggle switch for shadow & highlight preview on/off, not just <alt> key + <exposure>
     
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    Mar 14, 2007 11:21 AM   in reply to Ian Lyons
    Currently: Click on neutral to "snap to" white balance
    Please Add: Select color from skin-tone pallette, then click to "snap to" selected skin tone, w/ or w/o exposure/brightness compensation

    And: User selects key colors (bride's dress, wall color, skin tone) and then use eye-dropper to snap image so sampled portion matches selected color
     
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    Mar 14, 2007 11:23 AM   in reply to Ian Lyons
    Vignette: allow user to move center of vignette to any part of image, not just center of image
     
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    Apr 18, 2007 4:02 PM   in reply to Ian Lyons
    Please go back to being able to set auto adjustments on the individual sliders rather than the whole group. It seems this was a big step backwards...
     
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    Apr 18, 2007 4:35 PM   in reply to Ian Lyons
    Ain't gonna happen because the Auto adjustments changed for Lightroom compatibility.
     
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    Apr 19, 2007 3:54 PM   in reply to Ian Lyons
     
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    Apr 19, 2007 5:42 PM   in reply to Ian Lyons
    I agree the elimination of the Auto buttons on the sliders is a MAJOR step backwards in useability. There's got to be a better answer than "it ain't gonna happen".
     
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    Apr 19, 2007 6:07 PM   in reply to Ian Lyons
    Well, there isn't...so, you can either learn how to use the new Auto, or make yourself miserable complaining that it's changed.

    The new Auto Tone really _IS_ much improved over the old multiple autos. . .which most people checked off, most of the time, leaving only one or two parameters checked. Auto, in Camera Raw 4 (which has more controls than 3.7) actually gets most of the settings correct usually only requiring the adjustment of one or two of the parameters...so, to me, it's six of one, 1/2 dozen of the other...you are free to disagree...but the guys doing Camera Raw pretty much stated that the change was a one way street and there's no going back. So, pretty much, "ain't gonna happen" is accurate...sorry.
     
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    Apr 19, 2007 6:24 PM   in reply to Ian Lyons
    There's no Auto routine that is going to get "most settings correct" for photographers that "expose to the right" as recommended in in Real World Camera RAW - which is exactly why so many people left only one or two parameters checked.
     
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    Apr 19, 2007 6:39 PM   in reply to Ian Lyons
    "There's no Auto routine that is going to get "most settings correct" for photographers that "expose to the right" as recommended in in Real World Camera RAW"

    So, have you tested this on real world images? I have...CR 4 Auto Tone (as well as Lightroom) actually does a very decent job of correcting for ETTR images...it may be a bit aggresive on the highlight recovery and normally, I need to adjust the curves parameters-which weren't covered in the 3.x version of auto anyway.
     
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    Apr 19, 2007 6:54 PM   in reply to Ian Lyons
    I'll clarify. I don't see how any Auto routine can know that that my ETTR files are intended to produce a high tone image, where automatically setting any shadow clipping is completely contrary to the desired effect. However, automatically setting *only* the exposure *is* very useful when initially browsing such images and tagging the ones I want to work up!
     
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