There is no upgrade from the CS3 Educational Edition to the comparable CS3 editions sold in non-academic environments. If you have an educational version of for CS3 obtained legitimately (i.e., you qualified for the educational version when you obtained it), you may continue to use that software for the indefinite future, even for commercial use! You cannot sell or otherwise transfer that license, though! When the next version of the Creative Suite is released, you will have two choices: (1) If you still qualify for the educational version, you can buy a copy of that next version (there is no special upgrade pricing from one educational version to another; the price is already very low) or (2) you can upgrade from the educational version of CS3 to the full version of the next version of the Creative Suite as an upgrade from CS3 at the prices published at that time.
The EULA (end user license agreement) and the purchase qualification requirements for the current Adobe educational versions of products (including all versions of the Creative Suite from Adobe) have no restrictions on use of the product by the purchaser of the license.
> The EULA (end user license agreement) and the purchase qualification
> requirements for the current Adobe educational versions of products
> (including all versions of the Creative Suite from Adobe) have no
> restrictions on use of the product by the purchaser of the license.
Is this clearly stated in a KB article (or similar) anywhere? Seems not many
people read (or have the confidence to read) the EULA to draw this
It's certainly not common knowledge amongst students.
Your posting led me to take a look at the "other" Adobe websites. From what I can best determine, it is only in North America (US and Canada) that the "educational edition" of Adobe software has no restriction on subsequent commercial use as long as the purchaser whas qualified for the educational version when it was purchased.
Apparently, outside of North America, the "student edition" of Adobe software does indeed restrict, via license, use of this software to non-commercial use.
Thanks for the answer. I really think that Adobe would be best off with
standardized licensing across the planet (as much as local laws allow).
However, Adobe doesn't ask me. Heck, the same holds at my work and all
too often at home. :-)
If you bought the North American educational version of Creative Suite 2, yes, you can upgrade it to the equivalent commercial version of Creative Suite 3. Further questions, call Adobe Customer Support.
Well, I am in Oklahoma. I simply called customer service, identified that I had bought the prod. prem. cs3 educational, and asked if I was able to use the student version after I had graduated for "business or for-profit" and the woman simply said that was not an option. "As an educational version it is intended for one to learn on...etc" and said that it was not in the license to use the product after graduating for profit.
I read the agreement, and it only says one may use the software for educational purposes only and I could not find anything regarding the subject.
As far as I am aware from my discussion with the woman, I would not be able to use my software once graduated for a job, or upgrade from the educational to the professional.
If there is any way I can rectify this situation or a loop hole I am missing- please point it out- as it saves a couple grand.
Thanks for the urgent response and know you have saved a lot of trouble for me and my fellow designers as I will spread the word. Keep up the great work and thanks again. If there is any update to your research let me know.
I have a friend that bought Flash CS3 educational version and then updated the serial with Adobe for commercial use after he finished school.
But now he bought Design Premium (not an upgrade) and wants to give me his Flash CS3 and transfer the license so I can use it for freelance work.
It started out an educational license then turned into a commercial one. Technically, it's not an education license anymore so he would be allowed to transfer it to me, right?
My daughter is about to graduate from college and we have the chance to get adobe Creative 3 design premium for $395. My question is when it comes to upgrade time, can we just upgrade to the photoshop cs4 rather than the entire suite. We really only use the photoshop product.
No. If you have the package, you need to upgrade the whole package as a unit.
But you should be able to buy just Photoshop on an education license for even less than the cost of the suite, and that would give you a choice at upgrade time (assuming they don't change the rules), although the upgrades from standalone Photoshop to a full suite would be more expensive than the upgrade from a suite package.
My advice, though is to go ahead and buy the suite. That's a real bargain price and you'll never get an opportunity to get another chance to buy the rest of the applications at that price again. The odds are pretty good that your daughter will eventually want to use at least one more of the suite components.
$395?? Make sure that it's a regular education version vs. the education volume licensing. I just called Adobe about the same thing and they said that if it's much lower than the price on their site then it might be a volume license that only a school is able to do. That means that you can use that software for the entire time you are in school but not afterwards. Where as the educational version on the Adobe Store website is the version that you are able to use (even commercially) after graduation and you can also upgrade it (entire suite). At least that's what the sales rep said. The price on the Adobe Store site is around $599 for Design Premium. For an extra couple hun I wouldn't take the chance with the one at the school.
I will not reveal this top level college. But when you graduate from this college the license states that you own the perpetial license to this product. But you must graduate. I suppose after spending thousands for this flagship education, we deserve the license for this price. I have paid hundreds dollars in computer fees with this institution. So please don't envy me the price I'm paying. I have more than paid for it!
Not to knock the school, but a school is a business and any business would not think of losing money on something unless they would see a return. I went to a respected art/film/animation college where it was normal to charge $45,000 per year for education but they didn't give you any deals on anything. Dov is right, just call Adobe.
My school has the same arrangement. Under the terms of the plan, as I understand it, student and faculty purchases are credited toward the volume discounts the school receives for the number of licenses required to equip labs and classrooms. The more students buy the software through the program, the better the price for the school.
I'm a Tafe College lecturer in Australia and wish to purchase the Adobe Master Suite. The reseller at which i want to purchase from offers 3 versions Master Collection, Master Collection Student, and Master Collection Academic.
I'm thinking of starting my own design business and want to know wether i'll be doing anything illegal if I buy the Master Suite at Academic price and use it commercially.
According to http://www.adobe.com/education/purchasing/qualify.html I do qualify to purchase the product at academic price: Full or part time faculty and staff employed by accredited K-12 and higher education institutions. And i can provide the needed information.
So i was looking at the End User License Agreements (EULA's) for Photoshop and Illustrator etc. and nowhere does it state that I can not use them for commercial use.
All the EULA's are found here http://www.adobe.com/products/eulas/
Only in the Macromedia products (Dreamweaver, Studio, Flash etc.) it states
(f) Education Versions may not be used for, or distributed to any party for, any commercial purpose.
This website http://kb.adobe.com/selfservice/viewContent.do?externalId=kb402371&sl iceId=2
says "The Education versions of Adobe products are fully functional and identical to the retail versions, although there might be differences in packaging or marketing."
"You may purchase upgrades for Educational versions of Adobe products, but there are no educational discounts for upgrades"
"You may purchase regular upgrades to Education products you already own even after you no longer qualify as an Education customer (for example, students who graduate or instructors who leave the teaching profession)."
"When you upgrade an Education product, you get a new End User License Agreement (EULA) that overrides the original license agreement and no longer restricts you to educational use."
Is there a specific EULA for educational products that i cant find on Adobe's EULA page or does the EULA come with the packaging of the product?
And if i purchase the Master Collection at academic price which is apparently "fully functional and identical to the retail versions" can i use Dreamweaver to make websites and people pay me for that service?
Is academic pricing just a discount on full version? So i can use it for a graphic design business?
Anyone's help on this would be greatly appreciated
For student editions the following page is quite clear: http://www.adobe.com/ap/education/students/studentedition/faq.html
Commercial use is not allowed, but a student edition can be upgraded to a commercial edition when a new CS is released.
However, what is the situation with the regular (and more expensive) education versions? Adobe used to have a FAQ about this here: http://www.adobe.com/uk/education/purchasing/faq.html
But that page is no longer accessible from the main page. Can anyone confirm that what is stated on that page still holds namely that the education versions *can* be used commercially and can also be upgraded?
Was there any resolution to this last question? Is the Adobe Student Edition a newer incarnation different from previous educational/academic licenses?
As Walter mentioned, the Adobe Student Edition FAQ page seems to be at odds with the other information, as it states:
"Adobe Student Editions are for installation solely on private computers and for non-commercial purposes only."
I would be truly, truly appreciative if somebody could once and for all help shed some light on this subject for me. I've gotten so many differing and conflicting responses from web queries, EULA readings, and Adobe customer service.
My long-winded post today is spurred on by the confusing response from Adobe customer service that I received today. It read:
"With regard to your concern to use Adobe Educational Software for
commercial purposes, I need to inform you that the educational versions of our software are specially priced for qualifying students and faculty. Even though they are restricted for educational and
institutional use only, educational versions are fully functional."
Are the products restricted in terms of who can use them, what qualified users can use them for, or both?
I'm a student (in North America) and received my CS3 Design Premium through my school over a year ago, but I'll be darned if I know how to tell what license I exactly have. Looking at the DVD case in front of me, it says "Student Licensing." I've read the EULA, which basically says you can use the software if you qualify as an educational end-user. Does that mean you have to qualify when you buy it, or forever on? How do I know if my version different from the above mentioned Adobe Student Edition which does, indeed, restrict commercial use?
I'm not sure if this will help anybody help me understand, but I do know that a couple hundred of students (both undergrad and graduate) are enrolled in the same Adobe license deal as I am, so I'm guessing that is probably some sort of volume licensing.
It would be absolutely wondrous to know once and for all that it was OK to use my software for commercial purposes both during school and after graduation, as it seems like a shame for the software to become legally derelict if not upgraded.
If anybody has any thoughts, it would be fantastic to hear them.
Dov, you seem to be a beacon of Adobe clarity, so I would love any advice you might have.
Dov has posted here before that in the US you must qualify at the time of purchase for educational pricing, but the license allows you to use the software both for educational purposes while a student, and for commercial purposes while a student and after graduating (or presumably dropping out).
If you wish to upgrade to the next version you qualify to buy the standard commercial upgrade package at the regular upgrade price, or if still otherwise qualified, you can buy a new educational license for the new product. Educational products are not upgradeable to educational versions, and the license cannot be transferred, though you could at a later time transfer a commercial license obtained as an upgrade from your student version, if you chose to do so.