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660. StevieJV,

Jun 26, 2006 8:56 AM in reply to (Roger_Benedict)

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Hey, we made it that far, they'll come home hero's regardless.

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661. johnk3,

Jun 26, 2006 8:58 AM in reply to (Roger_Benedict)

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>That was no foul!

Don't know what really constitutes a foul there, but if that was one there is something wrong with the rules and the game.

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662. StevieJV,

Jun 26, 2006 8:59 AM in reply to (Roger_Benedict)

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3am and I'm wide awake.... latta dee, latta dah...

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663. Kath-H,

Jun 26, 2006 9:00 AM in reply to (Roger_Benedict)

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No, that was no penalty. That's really, really rotten luck :(

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664. johnk3,

Jun 26, 2006 9:00 AM in reply to (Roger_Benedict)

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Just like the "old" days.

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665. Magill_Lil,

Jun 26, 2006 9:02 AM in reply to (Roger_Benedict)

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Just wanted say I sure hope Roger is having a great trip.

Oh and sorry about the Aussie loss, Steve.

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666. johnk3,

Jun 26, 2006 9:07 AM in reply to (Roger_Benedict)

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Sportcasters (idiots) here aren't even replaying or questioning the "foul" (just replaying the penalty kick). Dumb a$$ talking heads.

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667. BigJohnD,

Jun 26, 2006 10:26 AM in reply to (Roger_Benedict)

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Am gutted. Commiserations to Aussies everywhere.
Substitute Francesco Totti scored an injury-time penalty to stun Australia

Iechyd da! John
19:26 26/06/2006 BST

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668. Gusgsm,

Jun 26, 2006 11:31 AM in reply to (Roger_Benedict)

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Geez! I saw the last two minutes. Sorry, Steve and all of you Aussies :(

The Italian player played well that stupid and dirty trick and the Australian player (and the Spanish arbitre) swallowed naively the bait.

When replaying the action, even a football rookie like me saw that was no foul play (the Australian player's, I mean).

I think the Australian team deserved a better fare, but that situation was a classical way of playing football: Tough, not very beautiful and with a touch of dirt.

Next Thursday 21.00: The day Spain Stood Still (Raul Barada Nikto).

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669. StevieJV,

Jun 26, 2006 2:21 PM in reply to (Roger_Benedict)

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I think Australia is in mourning, except me that is, we made it to the World Cup for the first time in 30 something years, scored our first goal (and second and third and fourth and fifth) gave Brazil a run for their money, gave Japan a whoopin', stood up to Croatia, and made Italy defend like champions.

Not too bad for a country of only 20 million.

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670. StevieJV,

Jun 26, 2006 4:22 PM in reply to (Roger_Benedict)

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i The day Spain Stood Still (Raul Barada Nikto).

:)

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671. ~graffiti,

Jun 26, 2006 7:41 PM in reply to (Roger_Benedict)

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Klaatu barada <cough cough>Nectye<cough>

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672. johnk3,

Jun 27, 2006 7:10 AM in reply to (Roger_Benedict)

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Ronaldo again. :-)

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673. John Joslin,

Jun 27, 2006 7:49 AM in reply to (Roger_Benedict)

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Another bad ref! Adriano scores from offside.

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674. johnk3,

Jun 27, 2006 7:50 AM in reply to (Roger_Benedict)

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Well as a amateur watcher I have to say that the officiating at the world cup is NOT world class. Really hard to learn the the game when the call by the refs are so inconsistent.

Brazil's second goal was offside. :-)

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675. McZeb,

Jun 27, 2006 7:53 AM in reply to (Roger_Benedict)

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It's not just the cheating but cheating and scoring and getting away with it that counts, eh Maradona?

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676. McZeb,

Jun 27, 2006 12:53 PM in reply to (Roger_Benedict)

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Where's Gus?

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http://www.google.co.uk/ig?source=wchp

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677. BigJohnD,

Jun 27, 2006 1:28 PM in reply to (Roger_Benedict)

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Spain 1-3 France

Looks like Thierry Henry conned the ref, won a free kick and France scored to go 2-1 up against Spain.

ZiZou's goal was tops though!

Quarter finals reads so:

FRIDAY 30 JUNE
QUARTER-FINAL ONE
Germany v Argentina
Berlin, 1600h BST
Live on ITV1/BBC Radio Five Live

QUARTER-FINAL TWO
Italy v Ukraine
Hamburg, 2000h BST
Live on BBC1/BBC Radio Five Live

SATURDAY 1 JULY
QUARTER-FINAL THREE
England v Portugal
Gelsenkirchen, 1600h BST
Live on BBC1/BBC Radio Five Live

QUARTER-FINAL FOUR
Brazil v France
Frankfurt, 2000h BST
Live on ITV1/BBC Radio Five Live

Iechyd da! John
22:28 27/06/2006 BST

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678. (Gene_Trujillo),

Jun 27, 2006 3:21 PM in reply to (Roger_Benedict)

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Viva Les Bleus! Sorry, Gustavo. Sounds like an exciting finish.

>Looks like Thierry Henry conned the ref, won a free kick and France scored to go 2-1 up against Spain.

Eh? Do you mean Zidane? How was the ref "conned"?

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679. BigJohnD,

Jun 27, 2006 3:40 PM in reply to (Roger_Benedict)

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> > How was the ref "conned"?

i (I have had the benefit of viewing the incident in slo-mo several times from at least two different cameras - the ref had to make up his mind immediately.)

Thierry Henry and Carles Puyol were competing for the ball. Puyol was stronger and got in front of Henry, putting his left arm across Henry's stomach/chest. In my view, robust but legal play. Henry went down, with his hands clutching his face as if he'd be hit in the face. The ref, who was partially unsighted being behind them, blew for a foul. The linesman was also flagging.

Puyol was yellow carded.

Zinadine Zidane took the free kick; Xabi Alonso was unable to head clear and ball went beyond the goal to Patrick Vieira who scored.
Spain 1-2 France.

The Spaniards are furious: Angry Aragones fumes at referee

> > Eh? Do you mean Zidane?

The nickname in France for Zinadine Zidane is ZiZou.

There are streamed video highlights on the BBC but they are only available to surfers with UK IP addresses. :-(

Iechyd da! John
00:40 28/06/2006 BST

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680. (Gene_Trujillo),

Jun 27, 2006 3:48 PM in reply to (Roger_Benedict)

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Oh, OK, a flop play. I was unable to watch, just kept track online.

Believe me, in Seattle we empathize with poor officiating. I'm glad it didn't ultimately decide the match.

>The nickname in France for Zinadine Zidane is ZiZou.

Yes. One of our closest friends is from France and Zidane is his hero. We hear all about every aspect of his life! :-)

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681. BigJohnD,

Jun 27, 2006 3:50 PM in reply to (Roger_Benedict)

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> > Zidane is his hero. We hear all about every aspect of his life!

He is a class act, one of the all time greats.
I bet the French wished he played for a French team instead of Real Madrid.

Iechyd da! John
00:51 28/06/2006 BST

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682. johnk3,

Jun 27, 2006 3:58 PM in reply to (Roger_Benedict)

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Why have the refs gotten more coverage in the games rather than the players. Sounds really bad to me. :-(

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683. Kath-H,

Jun 27, 2006 10:43 PM in reply to (Roger_Benedict)

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They have people grading them from the stands, making sure they are strict enough, makes them nervous. Plus the occasion gets to them (World Cup is an even greater occasion than a World Series to many ;) ) - and many of them just aren't very good. There are refs from various countries where standards are, well, variable, but they have to use several nationalities to make sure there's always a neutral one available.

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684. johnk3,

Jun 28, 2006 10:21 AM in reply to (Roger_Benedict)

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Three items:

One,

>ENGLAND's massive army of World Cup fans is drinking Germany dry, it emerged yesterday.

>Breweries warned beer could run out before the final because of huge demand from our supporters.

>In Nuremberg, organisers revealed 70,000 England fans who flooded the city drank 1.2MILLION pints of beer - an average of 17 pints each.

Two,

>Despite a high level of media coverage for the World Cup soccer tournament, three-fourths of Americans (78%) are not following the action very closely if at all. A Rasmussen Reports survey of 1,000 adults found that just 6% are following the tournament very closely.

>Nine percent (9%) of men are paying close attention along with 3% of women.

Three,

>No games today. :-(

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685. BigJohnD,

Jun 28, 2006 11:38 AM in reply to (Roger_Benedict)

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> > Why have the refs gotten more coverage in the games rather than the players. Sounds really bad to me

Because
1. they have issued a record number of yellow and red cards
2. many have been issued for incidents for which players would not expect recieve a card
3. players have caught on to the ease with which yellow cards are issued and and over-reacting to challenges in the hope their opponent will be cautioned
4. referees are under instruction from FIFA to clamp down on foul play - and can not distinguish ot from robust play.

Referee Assignments: Matches 57-60

Referees for World Cup quarter-finals:
57. Germany v Argentina ( Ľubo Micheľ , Slovakia)
58. Italy v Ukraine ( Frank de Bleeckere , Belgium)
59. England v Portugal ( Horacio Elizondo , Argentina)
60. Brazil v France ( Luis Medina Cantalejo , Spain)

Other retained referees:
Toru Kamikawa (Japan),
Coffi Codjia (Benin),
Benito Archundia (Mexico),
Jorge Larrionda (Uruguay),
Mark Shield (Australia),
Massimo Busacca (Switzerland),
Markus Merk (Germany),
Roberto Rosetti (Italy).

The services of the rest (e.g. Graham Poll) are no longer required

If Germany don't make it to the final, will Markus Merk (the US's favourite ref) be the ref for the final????

Iechyd da! John
20:37 28/06/2006 BST

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686. Gusgsm,

Jun 28, 2006 11:39 AM in reply to (Roger_Benedict)

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Hi, folks

Your honest working boy reporting from an upset city (Madrid) in an upset country (Spain).

I can't say I am not a bit annoyed but I guess here the people is a bit used to the Spanish football team screwing it. Boy, how they flunked!

Now, no one wants to acknowledge that team as "ours", he... Victory has so many fathers and defeat is orphan.

All in all, France played much better and Zizou still rules ok.

Signed, Me. Your honest but not anymore working boy (starting holidays: 1 month... 1 whole month.)

We'll be seeing ;)

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687. BigJohnD,

Jun 28, 2006 11:47 AM in reply to (Roger_Benedict)

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> > Your honest working boy reporting from an upset city (Madrid) in an upset country (Spain).

I'm disappointed too. two of our boys are in your team; three if you count Pepé Reina.

Iechyd da! John
20:46 28/06/2006 BST

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688. StevieJV,

Jun 28, 2006 2:10 PM in reply to (Roger_Benedict)

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Not as upset as Australia still is Gus, "we were robbed" is getting so much coverage it's getting boring.

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689. johnk3,

Jun 28, 2006 2:59 PM in reply to (Roger_Benedict)

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>"we were robbed"

Rite Steve you were and "We Wuz Robbed" also...

Just not by the ref.

>Instead, blame a smart coach who turned timid at the wrong time and a team that never developed a real sense of urgency.

>Then throw in the bosses at U.S. Soccer who, despite pockets stuffed with cash from Nike and other top-drawer sponsors, failed to find or forge even one difference-making player from a nation of 299 million people.

>Finally, take a turn in front of the mirror.

>The reason the United States is officially "Going, Going, Ghana!" from the World Cup, as one headline put it memorably Thursday, is simple. It still hasn't bothered to learn how to play the world's game :-(

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690. (Gene_Trujillo),

Jun 28, 2006 3:30 PM in reply to (Roger_Benedict)

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>It still hasn't bothered to learn how to play the world's game

I just don't understand how this can be, there are so many kids playing football that there is even an american slang term "soccer mom".

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691. BigJohnD,

Jun 29, 2006 7:39 AM in reply to (Roger_Benedict)

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> > It still hasn't bothered to learn how to play the world's game

For some reason, which the rest of the world can't understand, it's not a priority, depsite the huge amount , £££ and $$$ in football around the planet.

The US Marketing people have caught on though I'm sick of those totally naff Budwater ads on the telly either side of the match. "You do the football, we'll do the beer" - well they know nothing about football and probably even less about beer.

I really thought that the US would make a big impression this world cup, but then most of their 1st XI are plying their trade in Europe, not in the US.

Iechyd da! John
16:39 29/06/2006 BST

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692. johnk3,

Jun 29, 2006 7:56 AM in reply to (Roger_Benedict)

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Budwater does some pretty funny commercials over here. You just have to forget the message. :-)

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693. dave milbut,

Jun 29, 2006 12:17 PM in reply to (Roger_Benedict)

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hehehe! read this today on the phone and was thinking of you panda futballers!

CNN: Tax evader loses TV for big game

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694. johnk3,

Jun 29, 2006 4:20 PM in reply to (Roger_Benedict)

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Now, that's just wrong. What's a guy to do?

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695. John Joslin,

Jun 30, 2006 11:56 PM in reply to (Roger_Benedict)

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Well, today it's crunch time for the nation that invented soccer!

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696. McZeb,

Jul 1, 2006 12:16 AM in reply to (Roger_Benedict)

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Crunch time for Rooney's foot anyway. ;)

The big question is do I remove the flag off my car today?

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697. StevieJV,

Jul 1, 2006 1:27 AM in reply to (Roger_Benedict)

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Leave it on, I have a good feeling about this one.

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698. BigJohnD,

Jul 1, 2006 4:01 AM in reply to (Roger_Benedict)

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Our local corner store is selling flags, hats and the like at half-price. Do they know something we don't?

Iechyd da! John
13:00 01/07/2006 BST

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