This is a deal killer for me. I can understand loading effects VSTs (VSTfx) but Premiere elements is trying to load all my instruments also. I kinda wonder if it's going to even be able to load all my effects. I'm glad Adobe has a trial so I found this out before I purchased. I see three possible solutions Adobe should implement.
1) A switch on the startup; add something like '-noVST' that is added to the startup shortcut.
2) By default don't load VST, have the user set up VST loading after the first start up.
3) Digital Audio Worstation programs can tell the difference between VST Instuments and VST Effects. Have Premier Elements only load effects. That seems to be the best solution, and in fact, not implementing this alread seems a bit sloppy.
Cubase 4.0 is the most important tool on my computer. There is not way that I'm going to mess with my Registry or temporarily rename folders because Adobe can't figure out how to tell VST Instruments from VST Effects. And since from other forum posts, this sounds like this also occurs with full-fledged Premiere, I can't use any Adobe video editing software.
FIX THIS AND I'll BUY.
Maybe this works (use it on your own risk of course).
Go in the registry to the key HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\VST
This is the plugin path.
Rename this (mine was: C:\Program Files\Steinberg\VstPlugins and i have renamed it to C:\Program Files\Steinberg\_VstPlugins
Go in Cubase, it cannot find your plugins, however go to via Devices > Plugin information.
Mine location was set to "Default" or something similar. Hit change and navigate to this path: C:\Program Files\Steinberg\VstPlugins
Now, after a restart of Cubase it again shows all the plugins.
Start Premiere Pro, it cannot find any plugins anymore and you can start this great program!
Greetings and happy editing/mixing.
PS: Haven't tried restarting my computer yet...
Must be the "season of the VST?"
Thanks for sharing this. In another thread on the PrPro fora (do not recall the version #), he had some from two seldom used audio programs, that were keeping PrPro from loading. In his case, he moved them to the Desktop, and Premiere could not find them. This surprised me, as I assumed that the Desktop would be in the search path, but on his machine it was not. He tested his programs, that used these VST's and had good results pointing them to the Desktop.
I hope that things hold strong, when you reboot.
I tried the C:\Program Files\Steinberg\VstPlugins and I have renamed it to C:\Program Files\Steinberg\_VstPlugins
It worked at first but then Premiere Pro CS4 trial found it again (DOH!)
I even made a folder not in the Cubase directory under C drive and called it NewPlugFolder and told Cubase where it was. THEN PP found it AGAIN!
So THIS time I think I got it.
I THINK PP sees it no matter WHAT I call the folder because it looks at Cubase and finds it anyway. So... when I run Cubase, I can change the name back to the original folder (NewPlugFolder.) When I run PP I rename it to _NewPlugFolder.
I wont be running both programs at once so for now, I believe this is a work-a-round till Adobe fixes this. I know in Vegas 9 Pro I can change it to look at another folder (which I did) and I have nothing in that folder. WHY Adobe doesn't let you change where to look for VST's makes no sense at all.
So far PP boots up with no problem. Of course I just tried it today. I'll see if it keeps working.
Out of curiosity, did you try dragging the Steinberg VST folder to the Desktop? That would be easier than renaming, provided that it works for you. You could drag it back to Cubase, when needed.
As all of my VST's work in AE, PrE, PrPro and Audition, I have not had an issue. The few that do not work in the Adobe programs also do no harm. I got a one-time message that ____.dll would not work in the launching program, but that was all.
Thanks for the tip Hunt!
That may be easier like you said. Of course to find that folder on my C drive and rename it is pretty easy too ;-)
I guess there's more than one way to work around it eh?
I just downloaded the trial version of PE 8 !!! and the problem still remains, it crashes before starting all the time..because I have many VST instruments...
I tried some workaround but it is completely unacceptable to have to try a trick to make a software from Adobe to work. The VST loading should not be the default it is absolutely idiot for Adobe to have Premiere looking for audio plugin most of us do now need here . It's only causing crashes and in my case they are loosing a potential customer...since I'm not a Pro, I'm removing Premiere and will try something else from the Competition...maybe it won't be as good as Premiere is supposed to be, but at least it runs immediately and I'm ready to go after 10 seconds!! Bye Bye Adobe....
I just did two projects with Magix Movie Edit Pro 15 Plus. It worked great and was very easy. Didn't even try loading my plugs but then again, they're not in the VST folder anyway cause of PE.
I also am still on the 30 day trial, but it only cost like $89 or something. So if all you need is basic editing (plus has some nice built in FX) give it a go. It does a lot for the money.
An interesting thread. I noticed that before I gave up trying to get this program to even start, it threw up error messages stating it couldn't find my copy of Steinberg's Halion and Antares Autotune. Both 'Halion' and 'Autotune' require different 'dongle' protection (Steinberg Kay and iLOK). I hadn't got either plugged in (I only connect them when running Steinberg products - I need the USB ports) and I remember that my problems seemed to have started then.
It made no difference that I rebooted and subsequently plugged in both dongles. Never got PE8 running, but as I've said previously, it is only a £70 program so I can write it off seeing as it is regarded as a toy - a theory validated by the fact the Premiere forums have Elements in large print - presumably for children!!!!
This isn't a comment directed at users - more at the people who made it without real world testing.
I fixed this problem by creating a new folder which I named 'VSTforAdobePE'. I then changed the registry entry for the 'VSTPluginsPath' to this new folder name.
I now can have my vst plugins where I want them and PE will now open because it scans the newly created folder which is empty.
Because PrE will survey one's system, trying to load all VST's found (some work, some will load but not work, and some will cause PrE to hang), many users "hide" many of their VST's in the Desktop Folder (it has some special properties, and PrE will NOT look there), and then point their DAW programs to the Desktop Folder, to access those.
Premiere Pro does things a bit better (though not perfectly IMHO), in that it will write a "blacklist file," for those VST's, that cause a hang. Unfortunately, it takes one launch, for each problem VST, so can take some extra time, until that blacklist file has been totally populated. In a more perfect world, PrPro would write each problem VST to the blacklist file, then continue, to the next, and then the next. Still, it is better, in this respect, than PrE is. Just my personal observations.