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The best Codec for Premiere CS4

Jun 16, 2009 1:01 PM

I am trying to learn more about codecs, but still having trouble understanding it fully. I have a new computer, so it makes sense that I need a certain codec to install in order to view my video as I edit on Adobe Premiere Pro CS4. My footage works on Windows Media Player, and the quality is somewhat Poor when I play it on Quicktime (but at least it works).

 

Now a few questions I have. First, does anyone know the best codec to use for Adobe Premiere Pro? I import DV files from my camcorder, and almost all of my video files are ".avi"

 

Also, I notice that the codecs are different for each media player that I apply this footage to. And I simply see instructions to download the correct codec. Well first I dont know which codec would be best for my setup, plus my second question: Once I do install the correct codec, will Premiere automatically know to use that codec? Or do I have to adjust a certain setting in Premiere to make the correct codec function? I could not see any setting that allowed me to change the codec...

 

Anyone's help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

 

-Rick Phillips

 
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    Jun 16, 2009 1:11 PM   in reply to RickP33

    Rick,

     

    The full-paid version of PrPro ships with and installs the main CODEC's that it needs for most work.

     

    If you are doing the Capture from a miniDV tape-based camera over FireWire via PrPro, your SD (Standard Definition)  files will be DV-AVI Type II, which is the base for SD work in PrPro. You do not need anything else for this.

     

    Now, if your Exports look bad, it is likely a setting in AME (Adobe Media Encoder). Those setting can be very important, as will the setting for your Project. What are you using for both?

     

    At the Export stage, some considerations need to be made. This is where other CODEC's can come in. Where do you wish to play your files? Any particular player in mind? You choice(s) here will determine if you need any additional CODEC's. Most of the Windows CODEC's (WMV files) should already be on your computer, from when you installed the OS. Vista might need its CODEC "pack," from MS. Seems that some flavors ship without the WMV CODEC's. Tell us how you wish to distribute your finished files, and someone can help you with both your settings and with the choice of CODEC's.

     

    Good luck, and let us know about your Project and Export settings, plus your intended delivery.

     

    Hunt

     

    PS - with the exception of the Vista CODEC Pack, if needed, I strongly recommend against installing any CODEC "packs." I also suggest that if one is going to be working with a particular CODEC a lot, that they find the true source of that CODEC and buy it, rather than go with a free version. Often, these are hacked, or reverse-engineered copies, and might not work so well.

     
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    Jun 16, 2009 1:15 PM   in reply to RickP33

    When capturing dv files from your camcorder you do not need to install any codec. Premiere knows excatly which one to use.

     
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    Jun 16, 2009 1:39 PM   in reply to RickP33

    Bill already said it, but it is better to repeat it, because otherwise you run the severe risk that you need to reformat your hard disk, reinstall your OS and all programs:

     

    DO NOT INSTALL ANY CODEC PACKS!!!

     

    Premiere comes with all the codecs needed for VIDEO editing.

     

    Since you appear pretty new to all this, I suggest you get some schooling, study tutorials and read the manual/help file.

    Otherwise you would not have mentioned that your files are AVI, since that is absolutely irrelevant. AVI is just a wrapper and for video editing the contents are relevant, meaning the codec and AVI is NOT a codec.

     
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    Jun 16, 2009 3:36 PM   in reply to RickP33

    It might be a codec issue, but since you haven't told us which codec is in use it is somewhat difficult to tell.

     

    You mention DV from a camera. From what camera, how did you capture in what sequence setting?

     
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    Jun 16, 2009 3:40 PM   in reply to RickP33

    Rick,

     

    As Harm points out, it could still be a CODEC issue. It is likely that the Imported video is something like an AVI file "wrapper," with DivX, or Xvid inside the wrapper. It would look the same as any other AVI file in Windows Explorerer, but it's what's inside that counts. Use G-Spot to "peak" inside that wrapper. it'll tell you the exact CODEC that you will need to install. Likely that your old machine had that one installed.

     

    Here's what to look for:

     

    G-Spot Screen 01.jpg

     

    Good luck,

     

    Hunt

     
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    Jun 16, 2009 6:00 PM   in reply to Bill Hunt

    Hi Rick!

     

    Your friends, Hunt and Harm have hit the nail.  Hunt and Harm actually helped me out with an issue just recently, and they know their stuff.  So listen to them :-)

     

    Anyways, I had the same problem you're having until I remembered I forgot to install a codec pack that my capture card uses.  So I installed it and all my files were immediately recognized by Premier.  Before, only the audio would be recognized and the video would be black.  So your problem has to be a missing video codec.  Hopefully you'll find which one is needed and everything should be fine.

     

    Good Luck!

     
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    Jun 16, 2009 8:34 PM   in reply to RickP33

    I would think that adobe should be able to provide all of the codecs required to function properly.

     

    They do.

     

    But there is a better DV codec than ships with Premiere - Cedocida.  And it's free.  Google it.

     
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    Jun 16, 2009 9:11 PM   in reply to RickP33

    Which specific file did you right click on?

     
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    Jun 16, 2009 9:11 PM   in reply to Harm Millaard

    I have to say that I have yet to see a post from Harm that builds someone up? What is your capacity here? to tear down every post you read and offer up a superior attitude to show the common folk how much higher and mighter you are? Maybe I am off base here and alot of you guys here respect this guy but I just gotta say you sure do come off sounded like a grouchy old man in every dang post I read of yours...What gives?

     

    Flame away.....

     
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    Jun 16, 2009 9:13 PM   in reply to Runamok_USA

    Harm actually is a grouchy old man.  But, as he really does know his stuff, his advice is often well heeded, even if one dislikes the delivery.

     

    Ignore the messanger, heed the message.

     
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    Jun 17, 2009 1:18 AM   in reply to RickP33

    Rick, Could you please double check that your video graphics drivers are up to date.  I had a similar issue to you with video not playing but audio was audible.  It turned out that the driver that I thought was the current one, was in fact, NOT the latest one.  What graphics card are you using and what is your driver version?

     
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    Jun 17, 2009 1:51 AM   in reply to RickP33

    Rick,

     

    I would not worry about the Mainconcept warnings, since GSpot incorrectly interprets these, due to the fact that Adobe chose to put these in the registry in a slightly different way and Gspot cannot correctly identify them.

     

    From what camera is your material and how did you capture?

     
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    Jun 17, 2009 2:25 AM   in reply to RickP33

    Do you know the driver version, Rick?

     
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    Jun 17, 2009 7:31 AM   in reply to RickP33

    By the time that a computer ships, the audio and video drivers are usually several months and versions out of date.

     

    Good luck,

     

    Hunt

     
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    Jun 17, 2009 8:50 AM   in reply to RickP33

    I have restarted my computer a few times now, and have opened up Adobe Premiere Pro, and absolutely nothing is different.

     

    Thst'a a good indication that the problem is not codec related.

     
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    Jun 17, 2009 1:56 PM   in reply to Jim Simon

    Hmmm. You're right and you're wrong, Jim. Premiere does not use Cedocida or any other VFW DV codec. It uses its own (MainConcept) DirectShow filter to read and write DV .avi files.

     

    There is something wrong: If it is truly dvsd (the OP wrote dvds, which I assume was a typo) then Premiere should be able to read the file with no additional plugins installed. But yes, Jim, it is not a codec problem.

     
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    Jun 17, 2009 6:45 PM   in reply to RickP33

    when I open G-Spot, and view all of my codecs, I see a huge list of them, and the ones marked pink (indicating there is a problem with the file) and allllll of the mainconcept (adobe2) files.

     

    This is true for everyone, not just you.  It is a false error.

     

    an issue with the installation of the adobe software.

     

    That part could be true.  Look first to the GPU, though.

     
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    Jun 18, 2009 2:38 AM   in reply to RickP33

    Rick

     

    upload the file so others can try opening it to see if it works for us.

     

    Is this a video you shoot and captured ?  and if so with what did you capture it with PP 1.5 ?

     

    you can upload a file here under 5MB

     

    try that if you can

     

    Glenn

     
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    Jun 18, 2009 3:56 AM   in reply to RickP33
    The Graphics driver I have is the Intel(R) 4 Series Internal Chipset.

     

    That is not the video driver. That is the chipset driver. Look here: http://www.nvidia.com/object/geforce_notebook_winvista_186.03_whql.htm l and compare the version with the one currently installed. Go to Device Manager, Display adapter and check the currently installed driver version with the one in the link.

     

    I'm still awaiting a reply to post # 5 and post # 17.

     
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    Jun 18, 2009 3:53 AM   in reply to RickP33

    Rick, like I mentioned before, I had the same issue as you when I first installed PPro CS4 ie. I could hear the audio from the video BUT the video itself was not showing in the source or programme monitor.  In the end it WAS a driver which needed updating.  May I suggest that you download something like 'Driver Doctor' (google it) or some other software which will scan your computer and tell you what drivers need updating.  Once the correct driver is updated, you will be up and running!

     
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    Jun 18, 2009 6:04 AM   in reply to RickP33

    Could it really be an issue with my Graphics driver if I am able to play video files on every single media aplication except for Premiere CS4?

     

    Very possible, yes.  Premiere may well use the GPU is ways that other software players don't, which could be why only Premiere has the issue.

     
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    Jun 20, 2009 12:56 PM   in reply to RickP33

    Oh, it is most certainly a driver issue then.

     

    Instead of using the drivers supplied by Hp< you may want to consider trying the latest generic Intel drivers:

     

    Another thing you can try is to go to Control Panel / Display / Settings / Advanced / Troubleshoot and try dropping Hardware acceleraton down a few notches and seeing if that rectifies things within Premiere.

     
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    Jun 20, 2009 1:59 PM   in reply to RickP33

    Rick,

     

    Nothing wrong with your camera. It SHOULD work without problems, but as Dan mentioned, the currently installed driver is messing things up.

     

    I suggest to make a restore point now, then download and install the latest nVidia driver from the link I gave you and try again. The problem with HP drivers is that they are usually way behind with updates and the newer manufacurer's drivers may work better. Nevertheless, it is wise to make a restore point in case there are specific alterations made by HP for your system and you need to revert to your old setup. Let us know how this goes.

     
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    Jun 20, 2009 2:59 PM   in reply to RickP33

    Here you are: http://www.nvidia.com/object/geforce_notebook_winvista64_186.03_whql.h tml

     

    I hope this helps in solving your problem. Let us know. Points for correct or helpful answers are appreciated.

     
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    Jun 21, 2009 11:12 PM   in reply to RickP33

    That is weird. I would contact HP and get their help on installing the latest driver.

     
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