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Extract Embedded Images…did you know that…

Jul 19, 2009 4:00 AM

there is actually a feature in Illustrator to do this even though it is not called Extract Images?

 

Not only that once you extract the image you can update it as well  you do not have to lace it again and reposition it.

 

When I saw this and realize it was there I could not believe it as it has been asked so many times and there have been numerous work arounds.

 

The reason I think it has passed everyone by is that it is not located in the links panel.

 

So to the chase.

 

Edit>Edit Image

 

and then

 

Edit>Update Image

 

The former opens the embedded image in Photoshop

 

edit it there and then save it

 

then back in Illustrator go to the latter and it will be updated.

 

Never noticed this before.

 

The only draw back is that it seems to only work on one image at a time.

 

I wonder how many users here knew about this little feature?

 
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    Jul 23, 2009 8:52 AM   in reply to Wade_Zimmerman

    LOL!

     

    Hi Wade - glad you found this feature of Phantasm CS Studio at last

     

    It's probably the tool I use on virtually every occasion with Illustrator. A further insight can found found in movie 13/13 on this page: www.astutegraphics.com/products/phantasm/

     

    However, if you have a multiple selection, it is typically possible that you can edit all embedded images in the selection in one go. This should also apply to updating the images.

     

    Hope this is of help,

     

    Nick

     

    PS - glad you thought it was an actual feature of Ai - we have worked hard to make all tools in the Phantasm CS range appear as if it's native to the program to improve usability.

     
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    Jul 23, 2009 9:45 AM   in reply to Wade_Zimmerman

    I was going crazy trying to find that feature in AI CS3 and CS4....I was thinking to my self...hmmmm maybe Wade has the CS5 top secret version

     

    Don't worry Wade, I have that kind of "oopss" every time...

     

    By the way, that Phantasm plugin seems to do very cool things...!

     
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    Jul 23, 2009 10:06 AM   in reply to Wade_Zimmerman

    I'm still using the workaround of saving out a PDF to open as image in Photoshop.

     
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    Jul 23, 2009 5:07 PM   in reply to PrepressPro1

    Why not just relink the image if you want to edit the photo in photoshop?

     
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    Jul 23, 2009 9:18 PM   in reply to Wade_Zimmerman

    Good point, I have a tendency to assume things. So...

     
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    Jul 25, 2009 3:52 PM   in reply to Wade_Zimmerman

    What I do is hide all ememets execpt for the embedded image. Then I save the illustrator file out as a PDF and open it in Photoshop as an Image. This should give you a Photoshop file of the emdedded image at the correct size and resolution. You can save this as a .psd and go into Illustrator and relink it to the embedded image without having to resize or move it.

     
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    Jul 25, 2009 11:22 PM   in reply to Wade_Zimmerman

    I would check out the plug-in if I had to do this type of thing more than a couple times a week. Plus the name Phantasm reminds me of that creepy movie Phantasm from 1979. (Shiver)

     
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    Aug 25, 2010 3:37 AM   in reply to Wade_Zimmerman

    An easy way to extract images from an illustrator is to simply save the file as a SVG file..

     

    When you choose save as svg, you can choose if the images should be links or embedded, and if you select links, illustrator will put the images in the same folder as where you save the svg file..

     
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    Aug 25, 2010 4:40 AM   in reply to olpr1234

    An interesting method, but one which I fear would only support RGB. Illustrator embedded images can be bitmap (mono), grayscale, RGB, CMYK or multi-ink. Each of these can have an alpha channel - again something which would need testing with SVG.

     

    Another method would be to drop the file into Acrobat and then extract the image from there.

     

    We recently published an article on this topic: Last minute embedded image editing. Hope that's of some help too.

     
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    Aug 25, 2010 10:15 AM   in reply to Nicholas van der Walle

    Nicholas, where might I find this plug-in which I've heard has brilliant, Photoshop-like color controls for Illustrator's vector art as well?

     
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    Aug 25, 2010 10:37 AM   in reply to Doug Katz

    The really cool part is linked images can be edited by Option-Double-Clicking, just like Indesign.

     

    Doug,

     

    http://www.astutegraphics.com/

     

    Great plug in.

     
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    Aug 25, 2010 2:33 PM   in reply to Wade_Zimmerman

    Thank you both. Will check it out right now.

     
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    Aug 25, 2010 2:35 PM   in reply to [scott w]

    (Um, option-double click on a linked image to edit it in the raster application of your choice is a native Illustrator feature, Scott!)

     
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    Aug 25, 2010 3:44 PM   in reply to Doug Katz

    Well then, great I do have Phantasm installed and wasn't 100% certain that the option-double-click was due to that.

     
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    Aug 26, 2010 1:00 AM   in reply to Doug Katz

    Hi Doug - due to the time difference, I wasn't able to beat Scott or Wade who kindly answered your question!

     

    If you have any specific questions about the plugin, please let me know via here or our contact form: www.astutegraphics.com/contact/

     
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    Aug 26, 2010 1:02 AM   in reply to [scott w]

    Hi Scott - LOL! We won't take credit for that linked image feature. Phantasm CS Publisher allows you to convert an embedded image into a linked one, but I'll stop the sales pitch now...

     
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    Nov 4, 2011 6:56 AM   in reply to Wade_Zimmerman

    I think Adobe illustrator should have this feature included in the later versions. I wouldn't be happy to first buy an adobe suite, and then for a small tiny feature I need to buy another 3rd party software or plugin. This is pathetic.

     
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    Feb 8, 2012 1:01 PM   in reply to wazi9909
    I think Adobe illustrator should have this feature included in the later versions. I wouldn't be happy to first buy an adobe suite, and then for a small tiny feature I need to buy another 3rd party software or plugin. This is pathetic.

    I'll second that. I just spent a couple of hours trying to figure out how to send an embedded image to Photoshop to edit it. After much time wasting it seems I am forced to conclude it's not possible. I find that astonishing. I have only just switched from Corel to Illustrator (CS5) and have found many things I like, but this a a glaring hole in the prtoduct.

     
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    Feb 8, 2012 1:10 PM   in reply to rijackson741

    If you have saved the AI file with PDF Compatibility enabled, then just open the AI file in PS and check the images tab. This will allow you to open the embedded image in PS, modify and save it as a new file. Then just replace it in the original AI file.

     
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    Feb 8, 2012 2:28 PM   in reply to Larry G. Schneider

    Thanks for the tip. It's kind of a process to solve the problem, but it does solve it

     
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    Feb 14, 2012 1:36 AM   in reply to Larry G. Schneider

    It is not the genuine solution to the problem. It is just an industry standard for a design software. I don't know what is the reason for this.

     
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    Sep 20, 2012 11:34 AM   in reply to Larry G. Schneider

    Larry, I'm trying to get this tip to work but it won't for one file in particular. I have saved with PDF compatibility, but when I open the AI file in Photoshop and select images, nothing shows up. It's definitely an embedded image but I guess PS won't recognize it. Any ideas?

     

    I've tried it with other files with embedded images and it works.

     
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    Sep 20, 2012 12:00 PM   in reply to rmp154

    Send me an email address in a PM and I'll send you my email address. Maybe I can look at the file in question.

     
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    Sep 20, 2012 4:54 PM   in reply to rmp154

    Might be an image containing spot colors.

     
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    Sep 23, 2012 2:22 AM   in reply to wazi9909

    wazi9909 wrote:

     

    I think Adobe illustrator should have this feature included in the later versions. I wouldn't be happy to first buy an adobe suite, and then for a small tiny feature I need to buy another 3rd party software or plugin. This is pathetic.

     

    OK... I'm just curious as to what is so hard about Copying the embedded image, go to Photoshop, choose New, making sure Clipboard is the right size, and depending on your illustration, that RGB or CMYK is chosen... then paste as pixels.

     

    Save the Photoshop file. Then click on the picture in Illustrator and choose *Relink from the Control Bar or the Links panel, choosing the saved Photoshop file. Done. * This time remember to check "Link" at the bottom left of the open dialog.

     

    @olpr1234: Great tip about saving many RGB pictures out using SVG!

     

    @wazi9909 - re: your "pathetic" comment -- there are many problems and ommissions within Illustrator that were/are present in other software packages. Too bad this is just not one of them to be considered "pathetic". Try investing a little more time learning Illustrator and the assorted programs within the Suite.

     

    As it relates to supporting plug-in developers for all Adobe products, but Astute Graphics in particular: you will never know the power of Illustrator unless you invest in their plug-ins! An absolute must for all power users or pro's that spend the major part of their day in Illy. I couldn't live without 'em.

     
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    Sep 23, 2012 2:33 AM   in reply to rijackson741

    rijackson741 wrote:

     

    I think Adobe illustrator should have this feature included in the later versions. I wouldn't be happy to first buy an adobe suite, and then for a small tiny feature I need to buy another 3rd party software or plugin. This is pathetic.

    I'll second that. I just spent a couple of hours trying to figure out how to send an embedded image to Photoshop to edit it. After much time wasting it seems I am forced to conclude it's not possible. I find that astonishing. I have only just switched from Corel to Illustrator (CS5) and have found many things I like, but this a a glaring hole in the prtoduct.

    Can't believe you didn't try Copy and Paste.

     

    My tip above is something I have used cross-platform, cross-software for I believe 15 years or so.... more than likely longer.

     
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    Sep 23, 2012 5:01 AM   in reply to DocPixel-BMW

    DocPixel-BMW wrote:

     

     

    OK... I'm just curious as to what is so hard about Copying the embedded image, go to Photoshop, choose New, making sure Clipboard is the right size, and depending on your illustration, that RGB or CMYK is chosen... then paste as pixels.

     

    Copy and paste doesn't retrieve the original image.

     

    Instead take the AI (it has to be saved with PDF compatibility) and open in Photoshop. Choose "Images" and then get out what you want.

     
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    Sep 23, 2012 6:18 AM   in reply to DocPixel-BMW

    I specifically said the image was embedded, not linked. You can't relink an embedded image, because it's not linked in the first place. If it was linked then there is an external file with the image in it, and all you would need to do would be to edit that, then update the link. No need for copy and paste.

     

    Yes, I could have used copy and paste. Larry's suggestion achieves exactly the same thing though, and with multiple images is arguably less work. Either way you do it, you have to save the image, delete the image in AI, insert the new image, then align it correctly. That is an unnecessarily painful procedure.

     

    The fact is, in an ancient version of CorelDraw (I'm sure this was possible at least from version 8) if you have an embedded image you can just right click, edit, and it launches Corel Photopaint, with the image. When you close the image in Photopaint it asks if you want to save the changes. If you say yes, you are back in CorelDraw, with the modified image. No copying, pasting, saving, deleting, inserting, aligning. I wasted a lot of time with this because I just couldn't believe that AI couldn't also do something like this. I figured I must be missing something. Unfortunately, it can't do it, and it's a major limitation. Perhaps even, as wazi9909 puts it, a "pathetic" limitation.

     
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    Sep 23, 2012 6:22 AM   in reply to Monika Gause
    Copy and paste doesn't retrieve the original image.

    Why not? If AI handles the clipboard correctly, and I am sure it does, that should get the image into Photoshop.

     
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    Sep 23, 2012 7:38 AM   in reply to rijackson741

    rijackson741 wrote:

     

    Copy and paste doesn't retrieve the original image.

    Why not?

    You will have trouble getting the original resolution in case the image has been scaled in Illustrator.

     
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    Sep 23, 2012 8:28 AM   in reply to Monika Gause

    Thanks. That's a little surprising to me. I would have expected it to send it to the clipboard at the full resolutoin of the embedded image. It's useful to know that's not the case.

     
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    Sep 24, 2012 2:46 AM   in reply to Monika Gause

    Monika Gause wrote:

     

    rijackson741 wrote:

     

    Copy and paste doesn't retrieve the original image.

    Why not?

    You will have trouble getting the original resolution in case the image has been scaled in Illustrator.

    Yes you're right about that, and it is the best way if you have the original Illustrator file with the embedded image.

     

    In my defense, I'm mostly having to do this sort of thing with PDFs that are sent to me. Most cases I have to change something in the PDF or pull artwork out for another project we are working on. After opening the PDF in Illustrator, we then just copy the image and even paste it straight into an email (Mac) and request the original file. If the original is not to be had, we then paste the image into a new Photoshop file and relink it. If need be, we'll replace it with another image later.

     

    @rijackson --- you most surely can "Relink"... well that's what the button you choose in Illustrator is called... even if the image is embedded. This will place the image in the exact same place and size as the embedded image, thus "linking" it if you checked the Link box when placing.

     

    Also, you can always choose Link Information and see what transformations the image has went through regarding size and rotation. This is also with a native Illustrator file only. The information can be used to calculate what you need to do to the image to revert to it's original size and rotation. Rather unfortunate, because something intuitive like Freehand used to have, like changing the percentage and angle in the Appearance panel was far better and easier to revert images, embedded or linked.

     

    @rijackson --- considering all of the features and functions that Illustrator still does not have or are incomplete... yes, Illustrator as a whole is pathetic as the only pro vector alternative on the market. Not just this one omission, which is easily worked around. That's what I was trying to say to wazi9909.

     

    * I just thought it should be mentioned again, that Monika's correct answer only applies to a native Illustrator file if you have it, AND if you save with PDF Compatibility or as an Illustrator native PDF. With any and all other PDFs saved with a preset like for prepress... the images have been compressed, and will be as we call them "baked". No matter how you copy, paste, export or open, the resolution, size and quality is "finished".

     
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    Sep 24, 2012 8:06 AM   in reply to DocPixel-BMW
    @rijackson --- you most surely can "Relink"... well that's what the button you choose in Illustrator is called... even if the image is embedded. This will place the image in the exact same place and size as the embedded image, thus "linking" it if you checked the Link box when placing.

    You are right, you can indeed. Sort of, anyway. When the image is embedded, I see "embedded" on the toolbar. Only when I click on that do I get an option to relink. Then I can choose an image file, and "relink it". When I do that it does not replace the embedded image with a new embedded image though, it replaces the embedded image with a linked image. So "relink" is a misnomer (something cannot be relinked when it was not linked in the first place), and what it does with an embedded image is kind of dangerous, because the AI file is no longer independent of other files.

     

    I can only compare AI to Corel. Now I have some experience with AI, overall, I prefer AI to Corel. In fact, my only real gripe at this point is this issue of editing embedded images. I should qualify that statement though. While I have a need for vector graphics, I am not a professional illustrator or artist, so there are many features I don't use. Also, I can only compare to CorelDraw 10, which is out of date, so it's not a very fair comparison!

     
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