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Premiere Pro - Insufficient Media Error - Please help!

Sep 14, 2009 8:30 AM

Hi, everyone!

I'm working in Adobe Premiere Pro (CS3), taking 3 thirty second video clips, and putting them together, along with an audio track, to make a 1:30 video background with music.

I'm trying to apply a short cross dissolve to each of the video clips. When I do, I get an error message that there is insufficient media and some frames will be repeated.

This is a mystery to me, because each of the thirty second clips is clearly longer than the cross dissolve transition.

The transitions seem to play fine in Premiere, but do not appear to show up in any render so far (I've tried .avi, .mov, and .wmv)

Any idea why I might be getting this error, and how I can correct the problem?

 
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    Sep 14, 2009 8:38 AM   in reply to Rejfly

    Start reading about handles. The help file is a good place to start. And get some basic education in video editing if you want to use PR. Consumer applications do not have this steep learning curve and may serve you better.

     
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    Sep 14, 2009 8:40 AM   in reply to Rejfly

    Insufficient media error means your clips do not have handles.

    Trim of 15 frames of the left clip on the right side and 15 frames on the left side of the right clip.

    Then your transition will work properly and no error message,

     
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    Sep 14, 2009 9:20 AM   in reply to Rejfly

    Here's some background on Handles:

     

    Handles_01.jpg

    Handles_04.jpg

     

    Good luck,

     

    Hunt

     
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    Sep 14, 2009 9:29 AM   in reply to Rejfly

    my clips are longer than my transition in terms of duration.

     

    I there any way I can "add" handles?


    The full Duration of the Clips is long enough, but your Handles are not. These are "created" when you set the In & Out Points on the Clip.

     

    If your Clip has a tiny triangle at the Head, and/or Tail, that means that it has zero Frames as Handles. Reset the In & Out Points to get the Handles.

     

    Good luck,

     

    Hunt

     
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    Sep 14, 2009 9:33 AM   in reply to Bill Hunt

    Two easy ways to set the In & Out Points on your Clips are:

     

    In the Timeline, zoom in a bit. Click-drag on the Head, and/or Tail of the Clip, watching the Info Panel to make sure that you allow enough Handles for the Duration of the Transitions' settings.

     

    These can also be set in the Source Monitor with the In Point bracket and the Out Point bracket.

     

    Good luck,

     

    Hunt

     
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    Sep 14, 2009 11:28 AM   in reply to Rejfly
    Ah, I understand now, Hunt - and it worked!

     

    Great news. The concept of Handles is a bit abstract, when one first approaches it. Once the editor is able to make the connection, it's then clear from then on. For me, it was easy, as I came from a cine background. We did not call them "Handles" back then, but they were physically easy to see and understand in A-B Roll editing. If one did not have enough Frames, the Transition could not be printed from the A and B roll. It was also a bit easier to grasp, when NLE's still used A-B Roll layouts. Now, with everything on the same Video Track, these Handles are behind the scenes.

     

    Things like those little triangles that I mentioned are clues, but they are tiny, located up at the corner of the Head and/or Tail, and so often overlooked. Many have no idea what they are, and some have probably never even noticed them.

     

    Good luck, and glad that we got it sorted,

     

    Hunt

     

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    Nov 2, 2009 9:39 PM   in reply to Harm Millaard

    You know Harm I've read a number of your posts including some of your replies to me and in pretty much all of them you've come off as a jerk, contributer or not.  Telling him to go study video editing is not helpful at all.  I've used a number of other pro video editing programs and I've never had to do this in order to make a cross dissolve work, I just drop it in between two clips and it just works, unless I want it to work differently than a normal cross dissolve is supposed to, then I can change it.  Heck even older versions of Premiere didn't require this step.  Regardless of how Premiere works telling someone to go read the manual or go learn video editing is not what these forums are for, they're called support forums after all.

     
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    Nov 2, 2009 9:59 PM   in reply to Philnolan_3d

    Telling him to go study video editing is not helpful at all.

     

    That depends.  If he does actually go off and study video and can then perform the task better, then it really was helpful.

     

    I've used a number of other pro video editing programs and I've never had to do this in order to make a cross dissolve work

     

    Yes, you have.  Any proper transition needs handles.  This is a universal concept, and applies to all editors, all media, and all software programs.  Some programs, Premiere included, may try and 'cheat' the transition by repeating frames or with some other method, but that is not then a proper transition.

     

    Heck even older versions of Premiere didn't require this step.

     

    Yes, they have.  All NLEs always have, and always will.

     

    telling someone to go read the manual or go learn video editing is not what these forums are for

     

    I would argue that Premiere Pro, and hence these forums, are for those who have already learned video editing.

     

    First lean, then do.  This applies to any activity.  Those who try and skip step one and show up here looking for help do often meet with some backlash.

     
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    Nov 2, 2009 10:25 PM   in reply to Jim Simon

    Well SpeedEdit certainly doesn't.  I've never seen frozen frames in a transition like I do with Premiere Pro CS4 (If I don't adjust the handles first).  When I was first learning Premiere back in school years ago all I had to do was drop a cross dissolve between two clips and bam, a nice smooth dissolve from A to B, unless I specifically set it to do otherwise.

     

    JSS1138 wrote:

    Those who try and skip step one and show up here looking for help do often meet with some backlash.

     

    So you suggest that people should not come here to aid in their learning?  If that's the case I'll just move to CG Talk, I like learning on forums.

     
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    Aug 7, 2012 8:48 AM   in reply to Ann Bens

    Ann Bens

     

    The tip to trim of 15 frames of the left clip on the right side and 15 frames on the left side of the right clip works fine

    but what can you do if you have more then 70 or 100 clips in your timeline.

    is there a sorter way to do this?

    thanks.

     
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    Feb 27, 2013 4:03 PM   in reply to Bill Hunt

    Im having this same problem with my cross dissolve. Ive re read all these messages and i still dont understand how to set the handle. and i dont see any triangle in the timeline. Im using cs5.5 could you please help?

     
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    Feb 27, 2013 5:03 PM   in reply to dnice423

    This article goes into a bit more info on Handles: http://forums.adobe.com/message/3058164#3058164

     

    The concept was easy with cine, and also when one edited with A-B Roll editing, as one would overlap the Clips, by the number of Frames necessary. With an NLE, and single Track editing, it is a bit more difficult a concept to grasp.

     

    Can you post a screen-cap of your Sequence, showing the Clips, where you wish to add the Cross-Dissolves?

     

    You will ONLY get the "triangles," if that is the end of the full Clip. If you have a longer Clip, which has been Trimmed, then you will not get those, but, depending on your Trimming, might not get what you expect.

     

    Good luck,

     

    Hunt

     
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    Feb 27, 2013 5:41 PM   in reply to Bill Hunt

    I only get the repeated frames after i color correct clips. It works fine to just drag and drop for original footage.

     

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    Feb 28, 2013 7:45 AM   in reply to dnice423

    Thank you for the screen-cap. If you look at the Head of the first Clip, and the Tail of the second Clip, you will see the little "triangles" that indicate no more media. They are marked here:

    Clip_Triangles01.png

    Because of the Transition, between the two Clips, we cannot see if there is also a triangle at the Tail of the first Clip, and the Head of the second Clip. If you Delete the Transition for a moment, you can see whether the triangles appear. If so, they indicate that you do not have any more media, beyond, or in front of the Tail and the Head of those two Clips.

     

    If those ARE the ends of the Clips, then just click+drag on the Tail of the first, and then the Head of the next, to set the In & Out Points, enough to allow for the Cross-Dissolve. When you click+drag, the "triangle" will disappear, as you WILL have more media, beyond the new Head and Tail, that you see. That meida will be your Handles, and allow you to apply a Cross-Dissolve. When you do Trim, make sure to allow sufficient Frames for those Handles (will depend on the Duration of your Cross-Dissolve).

     

    Good luck,

     

    Hunt

     
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    Feb 28, 2013 10:02 AM   in reply to Bill Hunt

    im sorry to keep bothering you but i still dont understand, im not a beginnner editor so i dont know why i cant understand this concept. Yes there is a joined complete triangle in the middle of both clips. From what your saying, i dragged the triangle in the middle to the beginning of the first clip and it just made the whole first clip disappear. what am i doing wrong?

     
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    Feb 28, 2013 10:19 AM   in reply to dnice423

    Before you add a clip to Replace with AE comp. drag the clip a track higher and add frames to the front and back of the clip (each side the duration of a transition) then send it to AE.

    Do your stuff in AE and bring the clip back into Pro.

    Your clip is now too long, trim it back to its original length on the timeline and add the transition. There should not be any diagonal lines which means insufficient media.

    Instead of dragging the clip a track higher you can also copy it and put it superimposed over the original clip.

     
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    Feb 28, 2013 10:20 AM   in reply to Kostas K.

    Kostas K. wrote:

     

    Ann Bens

     

    The tip to trim of 15 frames of the left clip on the right side and 15 frames on the left side of the right clip works fine

    but what can you do if you have more then 70 or 100 clips in your timeline.

    is there a sorter way to do this?

    thanks.

    Select all clips and do a ripple trim.

     

    ripple trim.png

     
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    Feb 28, 2013 1:55 PM   in reply to Ann Bens

    ann i appreciate your reply but your way seems more confusing than the first one. @Bill is there anyway you could possible make a video for your method so i could understand it? I would highly appreciate it! I dont understand why such a sophisticated program would make something so simple so complicated.

     
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    Feb 28, 2013 3:42 PM   in reply to dnice423

    There is no other way, adding transitions is all about having enough handles to put them on.

    Linked comps from AE do not have handles. You need to create them first.

     
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    Feb 28, 2013 7:58 PM   in reply to Ann Bens

    I know but I just dont understand how to do it these explanations just dont make sense to me. I tried to drag the triangles and it wont let me it just drags the entire clip

     
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    Mar 1, 2013 4:14 AM   in reply to dnice423

    The triangles are just indicators, like a road sign that says, "Dead End". They let the editor know there aren't any more frames of video beyond the in point or the out point or both (whichever ones have the triangle).

     

    An easy way to create the handles necessary for a transition is just to overlap the outgoing clip with the incoming clip by however many frames are needed for the transition.  So if you need a 30-frame transition, set the playhead 30 frames prior to the out point of the outgoing clip and then drag/drop the incoming clip on top of the outgoing clip by lining up the in point of the incoming clip with the playhead. 

     

    Drop the transition at the cut between the clips and set the transition to "Start at Cut".

     

    Jeff

     
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    Mar 1, 2013 5:53 AM   in reply to Philnolan_3d

    I agree. This is a forum for Premiere Pro and people should feel free to ask questions about Premiere Pro in these forums.

     
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    Mar 1, 2013 10:17 AM   in reply to Jeff Bellune

    i tried to do it the way you explained jeff but it still didnt work. Im just not getting this concept. I cant believe im on a forum for video editing and no one can put up a quick video explaining this! im about at the point that i would pay someone to put a video of this.

     
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    Mar 1, 2013 12:36 PM   in reply to dnice423
     
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    Mar 1, 2013 1:25 PM   in reply to dnice423

    i tried to do it the way you explained jeff but it still didnt work. Im just not getting this concept. I cant believe im on a forum for video editing and no one can put up a quick video explaining this! im about at the point that i would pay someone to put a video of this.

     

    Jeff has now done you an excellent  vid that should help.

     

     

    Basically though...a transition requires an overlap of media ( frames).    If you layed the ends of your clips on top of each other so they overlapped...they are the spare frames that create the transition.   The overlap is the "handles".

     

    So to create "handles" requires the In and Out edit points on the clips...to  be  made  inside ( within)  the total duration of each clip. 

     

    The edit point needs to be  = to ,  or more than the duration of the transition.

     
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    Mar 3, 2013 11:07 AM   in reply to Jeff Bellune

    Just now getting a chance to get to my computer and try this out. Thanx for your help and video Jeff i highly appreciate it! I tried it out and it did work, however my main use of editing is music videos. This would throw off my sync wouldnt it? I havent tried it on a lip sync yet but it looks like this would throw it off.

     
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    Mar 3, 2013 11:34 AM   in reply to dnice423

    No it doesnt!

     

    The audio and video are linked.

     

    You are kind of over thinking this.

     

    I suggest you think about editing as "cuts only".  You will find that you never use the entire clip from head to tail ( ie. very 1st frame , very last frame ...camera start to camera stop)

     

    You make your IN and Out edit points where the shot works and that automatically gives you "handles" to which you can apply transitions.

     

    Even easier is to make your IN and Out points in the Source Monitor before Insert or Overlaying it to the Sequence.  YOu will see the "handles" indicated in the bottom of the Source Monitor once you have set Ins and Outs.

     
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    Mar 3, 2013 1:39 PM   in reply to dnice423

    If the audio and video are linked, then you won't have any sync issues.  If they're not linked, then just move the audio the same number of frames as the video.

     

    If the audio is one long take or file, then razor the audio to create cuts at the same location as the sync'ed video.  If you do that, then moving one segment of audio won't affect the sync of the rest of the track audio..

     

    Jeff

     
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    Mar 3, 2013 2:22 PM   in reply to Jeff Bellune

    i think you misunderstand, i do music videos...i have to sync my video to separate audio....any moving of the video  would throw off the lip sync.

     
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    Mar 3, 2013 2:24 PM   in reply to shooternz

    i meant to do that last reply to shooternz...sorry jeff i think you do understand what im trying to say.

     
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    Mar 3, 2013 2:28 PM   in reply to dnice423

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    Mar 3, 2013 7:34 PM   in reply to Jeff Bellune

    yea after i thought about it your both right it wont be affected.  Well thanx all for the help! its good to know i have a place to come to and get a answer about something! very much appreciated. Jeff if you was to put that video on youtube im sure it would get thousands of views i know im not the only one that has run into this problem.

     
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    Mar 3, 2013 7:49 PM   in reply to dnice423

    i meant to do that last reply to shooternz...sorry jeff i think you do understand what im trying to say.

     

    I understood exactly what you said.  Its just that you were wrong ( due to your inexperience)

     

    To confirm that it is not an issue...millions of edits have been made for music videos that have transitions in them...and the synch is fine.

     

    You just need to learn how to work with linked video and unlinked video.

     
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    Mar 10, 2013 10:09 PM   in reply to shooternz

    so i had a video to do and it was time to apply this method and just as i thought it throws the sync off. like i was saying last time, my video and audio are separate when i put them on the timeline. so when i move video like shown in jeff's video my audio stays in the same place making the sync off. do you guys understand what im saying?

     
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    Mar 11, 2013 12:32 AM   in reply to dnice423

    It means you are not doing this fundamental edit process correctly or understand the advice given.

     

    If you do anything to synched video/audio  you do it to both audio and video tracks.   (frame for frame.)

     

    Are you still struggling to make a transition or is this now a synch issue?

     
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