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Beware - Elements (8.0) Auto Analyzer runs on startup

Oct 3, 2009 5:43 AM

I've just discovered the CPU-intensive program "Elements Auto Analyzer" runs automatically when I turn on my PC.  I only realised when I saw all four cores running at 25% or so when nothing should have been happening at all.

 

I'm not sure whether there's a way to prevent that happening other than to hit it with a hammer, but using "Autoruns" from www.sysinternals.com you can untick it from the "Logon" tab.

 

I really hate programs that swamp my PC without asking me.  I have no desire at all for "Elements Auto Analyzer" to run under any circumstances.

 

I'm still finding that the main program (adobe premiere elements) itself never closes when I exit and I have to kill it using the task manager.  I shall probably write my own utility to prevent that happening and if others are having the same problem I'll upload it somewhere.

 

Grrrr!!

 
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    Oct 3, 2009 6:36 AM   in reply to Ozpeter

    Ozpeter

     

    I have not gotten a chance to look at the issue that you present and try it, but does disabling the feature at the Organizer level (see AutoAnalyzer tab at bottom of Elements Organizer) have any impact on what you are experiencing? I will try looking at this as soon as I can.

     

    I had to disable that AutoAnlyzer feature in Premiere Elements 8 because it kept automatically spliting my video into clips when I did not want that to happen. However, you can still right click you media in the Organizer and select Run AutoAnalyzer.

     

    For quite some time (before Premiere Elements 8), I have been running my WIndows XP SP3 with all the Start Up programs off, except Microsoft Services.

     

    ATR

     
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    Oct 3, 2009 7:13 AM   in reply to Ozpeter

    Ozpeter

     

    The tab to which I referred is at the bottom of the Elements Organizer window in the gray bar just above the Start bar. The row starts with "My Catalog and continues with "...items dated..." and follows with an icon for signing into account and the AutoAnalyzer tab.

     

    BUT, forget about that. Instead, Elements Organizer, Edit Menu/Preferences/AutoAnalyzer Options. That AutoAnalyzer Options dialog has more options than just On and Off.

     

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    Oct 3, 2009 12:01 PM   in reply to Ozpeter

    Ozpeter,

     

    I've read the entire thread (to date), but am doing my reply here - your initial post.

     

    Personally, I find this scary. As with you, I do not want modules going rogue on me. I go so far as to turn OFF any/all auto-update "features" in every program, that I install. I also turn OFF, when possible, the "look for updates and await your input." I will update any/everything at my leisure, not some timer in some program. I lost an entire new installation on a brand new workstation, because Logitec Set-Point decided to update during the installation of an NLE. When it did this, I lost my entire OS, plus all programs. It even killed Ghost, and System Restore. It killed my LAN and rendered one of my NIC connections unusable. It cost me a new MoBo, a complete low-level reformat of the system HDD and a week of lost installations! Guess which program will NEVER be on any computer, even if I use Logitec devices.

     

    Now, from your and ATR's comments, I am still not certain what this "utiltiy" does, but it seems to analyze AV Assets and then attempt to automatically do something like Scene Detection. Is that correct?

     

    I cannot imagine what Adobe was thinking with this. I have to admit that I do not use Organize/Organizer in my PrE 4 installation, so there could be things, even back then, that I am just unaware of. I use Bridge (from my CS2 Production Studio Premium) instead. Maybe I am just in the dark on what Organize/Organizer did, and certainly do not know what the newer versions might now do.

     

    Still, and it's not yet hear Halloween, I am scared - very scared. Maybe I should be glad that I only have PrE 4. All it did was kill CS2 Production Stuido and all of its apps. on installation. A Repair Install fixed those. Gonna' keep what I've got, and keep reading of your trials and tribulations.

     

    Thank you for reporting. You and ATR are doing a great service to all PrE users.

     

    Hunt

     
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    Oct 3, 2009 4:23 PM   in reply to Ozpeter
    I have this mental picture of PCs worldwide being brought to their knees by AVCHD Background Rendering, Auto Analyzing, and the program not terminating on exit, all happening at once..

     

    Some decades ago, Ray Bradbury wrote a short story, Dial F for Frankenstein. I do not know if it was published in a compilation, and forget exactly where I read it, Playboy maybe? There were a few similarities, to what you write. Now, this was before computers, that did not occupy anything less than a whole room (no desktops then), and he focused on the international telephone system. Still, some parallels.

     

    Hunt

     

    PS - I am with you. I think that this is one of the main reasons that I am much more comfortable in PrPro, than I am in PrE. Or, maybe I am just a "control freak!"

     

     
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    Oct 29, 2009 3:37 PM   in reply to Ozpeter

    Thanks everyone for your observations and comments in this thread ... it helped me resolve this problem.  Now I have a new question ... before I found this solution, Elements Auto Analyzer ran for several days and consumed several GB of hard drive space generating who knows what (one of these threads postulated it took video files and turned them into snipets).  Where are all of these files stored?  I have been trying to find them (particularly those video file snipets) but I have not found them.  Nor could I find them by opening Elements.  Anyone know where this junk was stored so I can delete it and get my hard drive space back?

     
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    Oct 29, 2009 7:43 PM   in reply to Ozpeter

    Hello,

    I also find the AutoAnalyzer startup thing a severe miss by Adobe. I see it eating up 60 to 80 MB at startup for 10 to 15 minutes every time I boot. I already wait long enough for my disk light to stop flashing before starting my day. Thanks for the instructions on how to disable it.

     

    I must not be the target for this feature because I don't understand the value at all. When it comes to entry level video, Adobe would do well to OPTIMIZE its existing feature set. Unfortunately, the message that "it now works they way it should have originally" is not one any marketer relishes.

     

    One example: my 4 minute video project takes about 10 minutes to load every time I open PrE4. As I've posted before, I have 2GB of RAM and a dual core processor. A little weak for PrE 8 perhaps but not for version 4.

     

    How someone thought that getting in the middle of EVERY boot cycle of a Windows machine was a good thing for an entry-level editing program (i.e. it should not expect to be installed on a dedicated editing station) completely baffles me.

     

    Steve

     
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    Dec 2, 2009 7:54 PM   in reply to Ozpeter

    I am new to this and have not used this forum but need to as the problem of

    autoanalyzer eating up my hard drive activity is serious.  I tried

    Elements Organizer>Organizer>  Edit/Prefs

    but fouind NO AUTOANALYZER options!!  I have the Student

    Version is this not available??  How can I control this beast?

     

    Thankyou anyone with time and knowledge to help me.

     
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    Dec 2, 2009 8:47 PM   in reply to Grebnul

    Grebnul

     

    Let us give another look for that AutoAnalyzer feature in Premiere Elements 8

     

    1. Click on the Organizer Tab (deep blue) in the Premiere Elements workspace

    2. In the row below that Organizer Tab is a black tab named Organizer (that is the Elements Organizer Tab) click on that

    3. With the Elements Organizer open, did you go to the Edit Menu/Preferences/and go down the list to AutoAnalyzer.Options

    4. There should be an AutoAnalyzer Options listing that you click on to bring up its dialog where you disable the feature and options.

     

    Also, at the bottom of the Elements Organizer workspace is a row of icons. The one next to the mailbox looking one is an AutoAnalyzer icon. If you click on that you can also bring up the AutoAnalyzer Options dialog that you made appear as above going the Edit Menu/Preferences/AutoAnalyzer Options route.

     

    When you are finished disabling this feature, go to the File Menu/Exit to get back to the Premiere Elements 8 workspace.

     

    Please let me know if that worked for you.

     

    ATR

     
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    Dec 3, 2009 12:55 PM   in reply to A.T. Romano

    Dear ATR,

     

    A very kind and fast response from you for which I am extremely grateful.  I am quite computer literate so feel a little silly when I assure you having made the first 2 steps I attempt the third

    [3. With the Elements Organizer open, did you go to the Edit Menu/Preferences/and go down the list to AutoAnalyzer.Options]

    but there is no such choice in my pull down from Preferences.  On my version and it is only 4 days old so it is Version 8, there are no Autoanalizer options, nor is "The one next to the mailbox looking one is an AutoAnalyzer icon" there an icon here.  Is it because I have the Student edition? Today I went to my desktop and Ctrl-Alt-Del and ended the process of AutoAnalyzer and the drive is much quieter now.  I imagine should I wish to use Elements 8 today I will have to re-Start.  But this seems a bit bothersome to do on a daily basis.

    Thankyou again for your help but I am still at sea!

    Paul

     
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    Dec 3, 2009 1:36 PM   in reply to Grebnul

    I have version 8 as you ... had the same problem until I too found this solution on line ...  Adobe acted "dumb" about it for awhile but eventually came back with the same solution.

     

     

     

    For Version #8 ... from the Organizier program

     

     

     

    Edit -> Preferences -> Autoorganizer Options -> you should have two check boxes at the top ... analyze all media in catalog automaticall, and run analyzer on startup (There's your culprit).

     

     

     

    Hope this helps.

     
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    Dec 3, 2009 1:47 PM   in reply to craigdpeterson

    craigdpeterson wrote:

     

    Elements Auto Analyzer ran for several days and consumed several GB of hard drive space generating who knows what (one of these threads postulated it took video files and turned them into snipets).  Where are all of these files stored?  I have been trying to find them (particularly those video file snipets) but I have not found them.  Nor could I find them by opening Elements.  Anyone know where this junk was stored so I can delete it and get my hard drive space back?

     

    The very best (for me at least) utility to find what eats up my disk space is SpaceSniffer. You would be amazed at what files PRE tucks away in obscure places, let alone all kinds of other spacehogging stuff from applications no longer used (or thought you had removed).

     

    Try it.

     

    Cheers,
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    Neale
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    Dec 3, 2009 3:29 PM   in reply to nealeh

    Thanks ... I will look into it.

     
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    Dec 3, 2009 11:35 PM   in reply to craigdpeterson

    I also see that the Autoanalyzer continues to run in the background, consuming vast amounts of RAM (i.e. everything) even when Elements 8 has crashed. Only way to stop it is to kill the process with Windows task manager. It doesn't seem to be actually doing anything, and doesn't seem to ever release the memory however long I wait.

     

    Strangely: Up to a few days ago it wasn't doing this. PE would just crash, and file a report for Adobe. But I got so tired of crashes every few minutes that I disabled GPU and auto-rendering in PE.... since then the system is definately a bit more stable (unfortunately still crashes often, say 5 min intervals), but no longer sends crash reports (just hangs), and Autoanalyzer now fails to terminate cleanly.

     

    So it seems the error handling in PE8 may be dependent on the GPU or auto-rendering setting. It looks like there is actually no error handling with those two disabled.

     

    I will now try to prevent Auto Analyzer from starting at all.

     

    Great software when it runs, disappointingly unstable.

     
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    Dec 3, 2009 11:44 PM   in reply to Derek Sky

    Thanks for the help above in the thread - now have Auto Analyzer disabled in the Organiser. Hopefully that will be better. With all these little fiddles, one really has to be a bit of an IT Technician to get Premiere Elements 8 working properly, not software for the casual user is it? Thanks for all the help on the Forum, because without all you guys I would have given up long time ago (Adobe's help files and support desk being a bit lacking).

     

    While there I was suprised to see I was subscribed to a variety of 'partner services' so disabled those spam sources while at it.

     
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    Dec 4, 2009 8:05 AM   in reply to Derek Sky

    It is unstable.

     

    The cynical side of me thinks that PrE 8 was along for the ride for the Photoshop Elements 8 release, since they offer both products together as an option.

     

    I've worked enough with desktop video to be pretty sure these issues being reported are not isolated. I hope that Adobe puts out some fixes soon. I still haven't had a chance to understand the problems I've been seeing with PrE 8. I'd like to try it on a virgin Windows 7 machine with all kinds of horse-power to eliminate the "your config is too wimpy" explanation.

     

    Thankfully, my copy of PrE 4 behaved very well for my most recent project and it turned out great. So the software is a good value...when it works.

    Steve

     
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    Dec 5, 2009 1:08 PM   in reply to A.T. Romano

    Thanks ATR - I feel as if I wrestled control of my system back from Adobe.  My personal view is that Adobe's approach, to running background jobs, is not only poor practise but verging on the unethical.  I was just about to resort to going back to my version of PE3 and throwing PE8 in the bin.  But, thanks to your assistance and this forum everything seems to be now working as planned.

     

    Thanks again

    Steve

     
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    May 10, 2010 3:44 AM   in reply to Ozpeter

    To turn off Auto Analyser at Windows start up simply do the following :

     

    1) "Search" within widows for : "msconfig" (or use the  "Run" command and type "msconfig")

    2) Type "continue" when prompted

    3) This will open the system configurator for Windows

    4) Select the "Start up " tab

    5) Remove the tick against "Elements Auto Analyser"  and click "Apply"

     

    You may see other unnecessary applications that are being started automatically, but go carefully in disabling applications that may be necessary to your system!

     

    On your next re-boot any de-selected applications will not automatically start up

     
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    Aug 3, 2010 7:12 PM   in reply to PeterRoz

    I have been beating my head against the desk with this problem for a few months now.

     

    Oddly enough, I have been killing it through msconfig, disabling it as a startup option, and the darn thing keeps coming back!

     

    I tried the disabling option in PrE8 just prior to this post, hoping that is a final solution to the hassle.

     

    The bad thing is for what ever reason my older quad-core devotes enough resources to the analyzer, that it takes two or three minutes just for Task Manager to come up. So unless I remember to go into TM right at startup, I can hardly even disable it once it gets rolling. I only have maybe 5 or 6 processes at startup I even allow, so its not like other things are hogging CPU resources.

     

    Thanks for all the great posts, I am hoping that disabling it in-program will put an end to this headache. I am a little embarassed I did not track that option down sooner.

     

    Shame on you Adobe...

     
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    Aug 3, 2010 7:29 PM   in reply to JohnnyGalt

    It seems that Adobe might well have added "features," that are not all that useful. Not sure what surveys they were reading, but let's just say that I'd have spent the time and the $'s elsewhere.

     

    I hope that PrE 9 omits some of the extra bells and whistles, and concentrates on real features, that one can use every day in real world editing.

     

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    Aug 4, 2010 8:55 PM   in reply to Bill Hunt

    Amen to that, Bill.

     

    I have had access to two identical machines. I can edit and play straight NTSC DV cuts with PrE4 fine, but PrE8 gives me all sorts of problems. I realize the configuration is slightly underpowered for PrE8 but I fail to see how they could mess up the performance of the program playing straight cuts.

     

    My one machine is loaded with email, anti-virus, MS Office, Illustrator, Photoshop, is conntected to the Internet, and is running Vista, for Pete's sake. Yet I can still do straight cuts, titles and transitions with PrE4. It's not perfect but it basically works.

     

    I can't do anything with PrE8, even on the machine that has a clean install of Windows 7, is not connected to the network, has no anti-virus software or any other programs running. Capturing DV freezes. Straight cuts won't play. The program crashes.

     

    For what you pay, the program is a good value if it works. So bag this Auto Analyzer crap and work on optimization and stabilization. Launch the program fast. Support current formats. Render fast. Only add features if you know they'll be rock solid and stay out of the Windows boot cycle for crying out loud.

     

    After I finish a couple work videos, I'm honestly going to consider getting a cheap Mac and the entry-level version of Final Cut. Or see if I can't somehow qualify for the Media Composer education price. I don't understand how a company the size of Adobe can't get this one program under control.

     

    Steve

     

    Edit for clarification: I would only pursue the Media Composer education option if I could legitimately qualify under its terms. I have no intention of abusing that program.

     
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    Aug 13, 2010 8:03 AM   in reply to sholmlund

    I've been using Elements since the original version. It is very powerful and a great value - when it works. Elements has always been buggy and undependable. I've said in CNET reviews, if Adobe were to simply come out with a new version that was advertised as: "No new fetures, No new add-ons, No new bells and whistles- Just a dependable stable platform that does not crash." I would upgrade to that product.

     

    That said, the projects I've been able to make with Elements have gotten praise. But at times my frustration level get pretty high too.

     

    Dave

     
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    Aug 13, 2010 8:10 AM   in reply to 321Dave

    Well said, Dave.

     

    But Adobe is no fool. They know the competition is tough, and your supporters can sour on you in a moment (As the folks at Quark well know). Here's hoping for great, solid performance in the next version!

     
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    Aug 13, 2010 8:12 AM   in reply to 321Dave

    Dave,

    IMHO, they could even go so far as to advertise that they had removed the Auto-analyze feature. I can see it now in the matrix comparing different versions.

     

    Steve

     
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    Aug 13, 2010 8:16 AM   in reply to 321Dave

    Dave,

     

    Welcome to the forum.

     

    I think that most users of any NLE would rank stability as the number 1 request. Bells are nice. Whistles are nice. Still, if a program is not stable, those extra "features" are pretty much meaningless.

     

    I am one of those people. First, I want total stability from the program, and design my systems to try and provide the most stable platform for the programs. I feel that this is important, and is too often overlooked, as many assume that the same e-machine that they use to check e-mail and surf the Internet, will also edit video smoothly. Once one has built/bought a proper editing machine, then it is up to the software company to provide a rock-solid program.

     

    For some of those "bells-n-whistles," I can just use AfterEffects, or another program. My NLE does not need to do everything, but I want everything that it does do, to be done well and with stability.

     

    You make good points, and thanks for commenting,

     

    Hunt

     
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    Aug 13, 2010 8:54 AM   in reply to Bill Hunt

    Hunt

     

    Just saw the latest series of this thread's posts in my email Inbox and had some thoughts that I wanted to see if you agreed with.

     

    It has been my impression that right after the release of a new version of Premiere Elements, the new version gets bashed and fond remembrances emerge about the version that it is replacing. I got that impression with Premiere Elements 4 going to Premiere Elements 7 as well as with Premiere Elements 7 going to Premiere Elements 8.

     

    In light of the past year dealing with Premiere Elements 8 issues (my own and others), I wonder if the same will hold true going from Premiere Elements 8 to Premiere Elements 9. Sad to say, I will laugh in shock if that turns out to be the case.

     

    ATR

     
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    Aug 13, 2010 10:16 AM   in reply to A.T. Romano

    ATR,

     

    You bring up many good points. In PrPro, when CS3 came out, many pined for PrPro 2.0. Then, CS4 was introduced, and some of those same folk suddenly supported CS3 (bashed it horribly, upon release), and commented that they hated CS4, and were all going back to the "now great" CS3. Fast forward to now, and it's happening all over again with CS5 - many now fondly reflect on how great CS4 was... Same thing happens with Encore too!

     

    Your observations are spot on, at least in my book.

     

    Personally, it does seem that some "features" were added to PrE 8, and were probably well-intended, but maybe not fully implemented, or were not of use by many. OTOH, many users, especially new users, seem to really appreciate them. These also compare to similar features in the competitive products, so Adobe is trying to stay current.

     

    If they did NOT include new features, and say PowerDirector did, some people would scream about Adobe being miles behind the competition. We see a lot of that with support for various new formats/CODEC's. PrE 8 comes out, and then 2 mos. later, camera mfgr. X introduces some new format/CODEC, and users whine that Adobe should have seen that coming and provided full support.

     

    I just wish that everyone could be as happy, as you and I are.

     

    Thanks for the comments,

     

    Hunt

     
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    Sep 27, 2010 8:57 AM   in reply to Bill Hunt

    Just recently installed PhotoShop/Premiere Elements 8.  I didn't make the connection first, but I started experiencing severe delays during the early stages of a Windows session.  The keyboard would be unresponsive for several (10-15) seconds. Like others, it was even difficult to open the task manager to view what was happening.  Found the Essentials AutoAnalyzer doing a gazillion reads of the disk; followed the steps given above to disable it, and now my system is back to normal. No more long lockouts.

     

    A background activitiy like AutoAnalyzer should not cause any delays to keyboard/mouse related jobs. I don't know who is to blame here, Adobe or MS, but somebody really  screwed this up.

     

    BTW, given how deleterious AutoAnalyzer is to my system, I wonder if 'Flexnet' antipirating process is really that benign.

     
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    Sep 27, 2010 9:20 AM   in reply to Mike - Renton

    As I point out in my books, it is possible -- and, in many cases, even recommended -- to turn off the Auto Analyzer in the Elements Organizer. (You can still manually select to run the Analyzer on one or a batch of clips at a time if you'd like.) This option to turn this feature off is under Edit/Preferences.

     

    Unless you are using the Smart Tags for metadata, the only major disadvantage to turning off the Auto Analyzer is that unanalyzed video clips will not receive the option to be Auto Enhanced/Smart Fixed when you add them to your Premiere Elements timeline. So, unless you're highly dependent on that tool you won't even notice the difference in anything except the greatly improved performance of the programs.

     
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    Sep 27, 2010 9:42 AM   in reply to Mike - Renton

    Mike Renton

     

    Premiere Elements 8.0 major resource grabbers are the automatic Background Rendering and AutoAnalzyer features. If you installed the 8.0.1 Update (Patch) which Adobe describes as required, the automatic Background Rendering default is switched from ON to OFF. But, as you found out, you do need to turn off the AutoAnalzyer feature in the Elements Organizer (Edit Menu/Preferences/AutoAnalzyer Options). The when and if needed (on demand) counterparts for these features are:

    Automatic Background Rendering....pressing the Enter Key of the computer main keyboard to get the best possible preview of the end product

    AutoAnalzyer.................right click the thumbnail in the Organize interface and select Run AutoAnalzyer

     

    And, believe it or not, AutoAnalyzer is still in Premiere Elements 9 (a bit tucked away, but there ON as default). See Elements Organizer/Edit Menu/Preferences/Media Analysis. I have not yet looked at the Premiere Elements 9 performance with that feature ON vs OFF. So far Premiere Elements 9 is running OK with it ON.

     

    The option for the  automatic Background Rendering feature is gone from Premiere Elements 9 Edit Menu/Preferences/General, and I have yet to find it elsewhere.

     

    Hope the above information is helpful.

     

    ATR

     
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    Oct 7, 2010 2:53 AM   in reply to craigdpeterson

    I believe AA does not hogs new space but just uses the already present files to diplay different scenes. I mean it generates some markers and shows those markers only. Just like there are different scene options in a DVD while there is only original file.

     
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    Oct 31, 2010 1:24 PM   in reply to craigdpeterson

    I do not know what is up with the way my Elements Workspace is laid out, but there is no "Organizer" button and no "Edit" selection available.  There must be someway to have a view with those options.  I am using Version 8.0

     
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    Oct 31, 2010 3:36 PM   in reply to twotontoo

    TTT

     

    At the top of the interface, click on the Blue Tab that says "Organize" in order to activate that Organize Mode.

     

    Then click on the "Organizer" Tab in the row below that active Organize (Blue) Tab. That will open the Elements Organizer.

     

    If you are in search of the Elements Organizer to shut OFF the AutoAnalzyer, then go to the Elements Organizer's Edit Menu/Preferences/AutoAnalzyer Options and turn OFF those options there.

     

    To get back to the Premiere Elements 8.0/8.0.1 workspace from the Elements Organizer, in the Elements Organizer, go to its File Menu/Exit.

     

    Make sure the you are working from the Premiere Elements 8.0.1 Update (Patch) version of Premiere Elements 8.0. You should be working with the automatic Background Rendering and AutoAnalzyer features turned OFF. Installation of the Premiere Elements 8.0.1 Updates automatically shuts OFF the automatic Background Rendering. The AutoAnalzyer shut OFF is up to you.

     

    If and when needed, you render the Timeline in the Edit Mode by pressing the Enter of the computer main keyboard to get the best possible preview of the end product. If and when necessary, you can use the AutoAnalzyer on a clip by right clicking the clip's thumbnail in the Organize interface, followed by a right click of it and a selection of Run AutoAnalyzer.

     

    The Premiere Elements 8 PDF Help is a great help in getting started. It can be accessed from the program's Help Menu or online at

    http://help.adobe.com/en_US/PremiereElements/8.0/Win/Using/index.html

     

    ATR

     
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    Apr 19, 2011 10:45 AM   in reply to Ozpeter

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    I used 10 minutes just to start task manager and take this photo after a windows startup. I turn it off for now, Picasa do this much faster. It is possible to check a box in order to make it run when the computer is idle, but I WASNT IDLE for sure. It made me idle.

     
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    Jan 10, 2012 6:47 AM   in reply to Ozpeter

      I have this same thing happening in Elements 9.0.  Apparently, Adobe doesn't care.  It was running amok with the processor and heat it up by 20C.  I haven’t been able to run down the problems with my system until now.  Since I turned off the process my system is way faster and my CPU temp is staying down by the 20C.

     
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    Jan 11, 2012 2:23 PM   in reply to davelalande

      Apparently, Adobe doesn't care. 

    Ha!

     

    Hi OzPeter!  Great to see you're still around!

     

    Paz

     
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    May 23, 2012 9:43 PM   in reply to Ozpeter

    So, the autoanalyzer has got many of you bogged down...myself included...and you want to shut it off and prevent it from starting with your computer again.  Here's 2 ways to do so: 

     

    #1: Best way: You can disable it by going to Adobe Organizer->Edit->Preferences->Auto-Analyzer Options...->Uncheck "Run Aanlyzer on Start Up"  (This will take care of the "bog" at start up.  You may want to also uncheck the box above it titled "Analyze All Media in Catalog Automatically" which disables the auto-analyzer from running when you launch Elements Organizer, but then it won't automatically tag your photos or splice your video at start up or when you launch Elements Organizer...this may be something you want it to do or you may not...I'll explain later in post and some additional settings you may want to know about that relate to the auto analyzer function).

     

    #2:  Change your Windows startup menu.  To do so, in Windows 7, you can click Start, type "msconfig" in search box and hit enter.  When the "System Configuration" window pops up, you need to select the "Startup" Tab at the top, then under the column "Startup Item" you need to find "Elements Auto Analyzer" and uncheck the box.  Then click "Apply" in the bottom right corner of the Window.  Congrats!  It is now disabled from automatically running when you boot up your computer, but with a catch.  If you EVER launch Elements Organizer again, and you didn't change the setting in the programs preferences(see option #1 above), then the program will reset itself in the startup menu and you will be back to square one where it is running at the boot of Windows every time again.

     

    Before I explain any further, there are a couple things you need to understand about this program, how it works, and how it can help you sort out 'flawed' pics and videos.

     

    First off, Elements Organizer is working as an application that can bring your photos into one place and potentially help you sort them...if you want it to(hence the basic idea for the "auto-analyzer".  Your pictures are wherever you saved them on your computer.  Elements Organizer DOES NOT alter those files...that's what the "Edit" option is for.  It is your choice to "save" or "save as" if you edit.

     

    "Watch Folders..." (settings found under "file"-> "Watch Folders...") designates actual places(folders)on your PC you want Elements Organizer to look for photos/videos if more are added, scanned, ect.  This is where it looks for your pics/vids automatically.  So if you have your 'photo folders' listed here, you will automatically be able to see them in Elements Organizer.  So, for example, if you create a new folder on the desktop and then dump new photos from your camera into them, they won't automatically show up in Elements Organizer until you add the new folder to your 'Watch" list.  You can manually add them to your viewable collection in Organizer by going to "File"->"Get Photos and Videos"->"From Files and Folders"->then select the location of the photos(in this example, the new folder on the desktop).  It is worth noting, that when you are in the "Watch Folders" options, you will likely want it to add the photos automatically to Organizer, if so, then make sure that you have the appropriate bubble selected at the bottom of screen that says, "Automatically Add Files to Organizer".  You can, however, just have Organizer notify you, instead, that you have new files added in your 'watched' folders.  My recommendation for simplicity sake is to set things to automatically add the files to Organizer.

     

    Catalogs-Think of this as your photo books...basically this is where you can designate groups of photos that you want to be together for whatever reason so you can find relevant photos later.  Elements Organizer automatically creates one catalog...the default catalog that shows everything.  You CAN have pictures in more than one catalog.  Here is an example:  Imagine you go on vacation to Las Vegas and take 2000 photos on your trip, but some of the photos are from when you went to visit the Hoover Dam one day, and the Grand Canyon on another day.  You could logically create a catalog of photos labeled "Vegas Trip" and have all 2000 pictures in that one catalog, and then in 2 other catalogs labeled "Grand Canyon" and "Hoover Dam", you catalog your pictures from each place respectively.  You may only have 300 of your 2000 total pictures that were taken at the Grand Canyon, and 200 of the 2000 total pics at the Hoover Dam.  This would allow you to have an easy way to pull up only the Grand Canyon pics if that is all you want to show off to your family, make a slideshow from, back up, burn a dvd, create a collage, ect.  The same pics that are in the "Grand Canyon" catalog or the "Hoover Dam" catalog, are also in the 'Vegas Trip" catalog.  Note: this DOES NOT copy your photos on your hard drive or put them in duplicate spots consuming extra space, but instead, pulls them from their locations on the hard drive and allows you to group them together for whatever relevance you deem fit.  This is an especially handy feature for photographers to keep track of wedding shoots for different clients, senior pictures, graduations, concerts, ect.

     

    So back to the topic of the 'Analyzer'...if you let it do its thing, it will put smart tags on your pictures based on the filters you have checked in your 'auto-analyzer options" that you want the "analyzer" to evaluate.  Those things include audio, brightness and contrast, motion, shake, blur, face, object motion, and even people's faces.  The cruddy part is that it is looking at your photos for you, determining if they are sharp, blurred, ect and allowing you a way to get rid of the 'bad' pics, but also find the sharp in focue pics you may want to use for a project.  So, ultimately, the auto-analyzer is potentially going to help you and the workflow of your photo projects.  Example:  If you wanted to pull out the "Grand Canyon" catalog and quickly make a dvd of it, you could easily filter down to the sharp infocus shots that are high contrast by selecting the appropriate smart tages

     

    I hope this helps clear up the confusion.

     
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