I know, but I don't give up easily. Did we determine you are running in Administrative mode? Anyway, not only is IE7 and IE8 restrictive, but Vista is as well. The following link is for a purpose other than to make your eyes glaze over.
After you go there, look for "On this Page", under that, click on Known Issues & Resolutions. This will take you to that section. See the Problem? See the Solution? I would have that offline ActiveX executable on the desktop first. The one you just tried from item5 if I remember correctly at this point. Then close all browsers and any Flash apps, you know the routine. Then enact that "solution" and then Run that desktop executable. And say a prayer:-)
i was reading over this:
i tried it but it won't clean it cause i have to buy the program.. arghh not what I want to do.. and the winows cleaner site you told me about earlier still isn't working.. it says this now:
Yes put that ActiveX executable from the troublshooting link-19166 per item 5.
However use that solution to Run IE as it said in that technet link. Put the ActiveX installer on the desktop first.
Then close all browsers, etc, Start>etc.
Is that clear? Just after you click on the IE in All programs, click on the Run as Admin. then close and Run the ActiveX from
the desktop. That was my understanding of the directions
That thread was all about FP9-old old old. Anyway everyone's computer set up is different. And beware of anyone that
wants to sell you something. There are spammers on this forum as on others and there are malicious spammers also.
Gagan, I saw the note on the Scan. Evidently you have to use this scan (link)
This link is for Vista. Now the only thing I don't know is if you have to use the Full Scan or can you choose from the left side list? You want Clean Up if you can choose. If not it will tell you. The full scan takes about 90 min. I think they said.
It does everything,virus/spyware etc.
It's up to you whether you want to try the ActiveX install first and then the scan or vice versa.
I tried the ActiveX install already and that didn't do anything. You should be able to choose just the Clean p which is what I was trying but i keep getting that error message. So i guess I can try the full scan.
Sorry that didn't work. You have everything in Flash Folder or at least you did. And you had Shockwave Flash Object in add ons even tho it didn't say Flash10d.ocx. I just cannot think what you could have on your computer that is blocking
all of the websites from recognizing it. Adblock I know but I think that's a Firefox plugin. We haven't went over what else you have in the add ons. What about your Java? There are a couple of Java add ons that many people have problems with and they disable them.
Perhaps tomorrow if you want to take a look at the balance of your add ons.
Since we've uninstalled/installed, you may want to confirm the status of your Flash Folder/and Shockwave Flash Object
not tonight but tomorrow.
You have got to be kidding me! Well, I found a Community Page about Scanner problems. Like we don't have enough.
I'll take a look to see if they have the error code list! LOL Perhaps tomorrow it will run for you. I guess the regular scanner is where they said it couldn't run on your OS or browser.
They can say what they want about XP and IE6, but with all of the problems I have seen with Vista, IE7 and IE8, no way.
When MS and others secure the OS and the browsers so you can't even use the computer, then what is the point? That
is how I feel about Vista/IE7/IE8. And that is exactly why I am keeping my XPSP3 and IE6! It works and that is what I would tell MS if they asked. :-) But I am going to give them some feedback. I always take their surveys and voice my opinion.
Take a break tomorrow is another day!
You've been a trooper today, thanks for the teamwork!
Hi Gagan, here is the link for the discussion on the Scanner:
It appears a lot of what you encounterd is being discussed. I think it's important to run the Scan. I never used a Registry
Cleaner on my computer. Microsoft I trust so that is why I used the Scanner. Glad I did, it certainly helped my PC.
Hope things get resolved.
Hello again... I looked through some of those threads and tried what they said but it didn't work. I opened my own thread so hopefully I'll get some feed back with that soon. What else can we try.. I mean didn't you say something about checking add-ons? Thank you! you've been a great help and I'm sorry nothing is working.
Hi Gagan, do you mean you posted to that old 2007 thread that you referenced yesterday? Or do you mean you started an entirely new thread? This thread is yours. I'm confused:-)
I think it would be a good idea to start with a look at the Flash folder and confirm that those 4 files are still there. Also, the
install.log, take a look at that and see if you can determine anything that could not be accomplished. I was able to see from mine yesterday that when I updated and didn't find the Shockwave Flash Object in my own add ons, that it was because I had forgotten to Reboot:-) So maybe you can glean some info that would be helpful.
After confirming the Flash folder contents, confirm that Shockwave Flash Object is still in the add ons, vs# if there and
if Flash10d.ocx is there or anything of Shockwave Flash Object.
On the add ons: It would not hurt to list them with version numbers if they are listed, include any Toolbars you may use.
Also, check Add/Remove and list what of Adobe is there, include any Java listings.
We determined yesterday that you did not have any trouble uninstalling. The issue is the Shockwave Flash Object and we tried several ways to accomplish that with no success. The only sure way that I know of is the Uninstall. We either have a
block when uninstalling(removing any old SFO ActiveX) or installing the new SFO ActiveX) But that it is the SFO there is no doubt in my mind. So we will target anything that might prevent a clean uninstall or a clean install.
I was talking about the windows saftey scan forum. The link you gave me, I posted a new thread there to see if someone can help with that because I tried and couldn't get it to work. Ok here is everything in the flash folder and the add ons.
I don't remember seeing these in the folder yesterday:
Shockwave ActiveX Control 126.96.36.1992 Enabled
Shockwave Flash Object 10.0.42.34 Enabled
Norton Toolbar 2009.7.0.0 Enabled
Symantec Intrusion Prevention 188.8.131.52 Enabled
Symantec NCO BHO 2009.7.0.0 Enabled
Java Plug-In 1.6.0_17 (says this one 3 times)
Java Plug-In 1.6.0_17
Java Plug-In 1.6.0_17
Java(tm) Plug-In 2 SSV Helper
Uninstall a Program:
Java (TM) 6 Update 3
Java (TM) 6 Update 5
Java (TM) 6 Update 17
I would uninstall flash player, you have too much junk in that flash directory. Don't forget to reboot...
Also clean that registry of yours, I bet its a mess..
Also under View and Manage your Internet Explorer Add ons, make sure you show Currently Loaded Add-Ons, and not show All Add Ons. I have noticed the All Add Ons is bogus, and didn't help me out at all. The Shock Wave Flash Object should show up in the Currently Loaded Add-Ons. The date of that flash object should be 11/2/2009, and of course enabled.
Thanks. Ok, I agree on the additional 3 that was not there yesterday. We will take care of them in a little bit.
The good news Gagan, is that you have Shockwave Flash Object 10.0.42.34!!!!! Finally!
Here is what I want you to try: Disable the Java (tm) plug-in 2 SSV Helper in add ons. Then check a website.
If the website does not work, go back and enable it and disable the Symantec BHO Helper and try a website.
Hi Nep7tune, I read your thread, glad you resolved your problem.
Gagan and I worked all day yesterday on this and have it narrowed down now. However, you are incorrect on the date of
the Shockwave Flash Object, Adobe came out in Dec. the 8th or 10th with the version 10.0.42.34. The date has no affect in any way, the websites are not looking for a date, they are looking for the correct version, which he has.
Just wanted to clear that up, don't want any confusion and get off track.
The flash object shows up in the run without permission and downloaded controls section not currently loaded add-ons section. Does that make a difference? Because in the currently loaded section there is only the Java SSV Helper.
Ok, that's fine. However it does not mean that they are not involved. Add ons will and do conflict with ActiveX and also with each other.
Now, let's do this: You have 9 add ons listed. To speed things up and save time, let's number then in the order you listed
them. #1 thur #9
Go back in the Disable #3, 4, 5 and 9. Then try a website.
Just follow my instructions, what matters is whether they are Disabled or Enabled. Don't get off track:-)
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Hi...The date of my Shock Wave Flash Object is correct, 11/2/2009, version 10.0.42.34. I just looked at it in the Flash Directory. But you are correct. The file date does not matter, as people have different Operating Systems, Browsers, and the files to download could be on different adobe servers with different dates.. The version is all that matters...
Ok, no problem. Go to Add/Remove and list every Adobe listing, including if there is a DLM(download manager)
Before we start removing files, I need to know what is there.
Thanks You can just leave the add ons as they are for the moment.
Nep7tune, with all due respect, we have this under control. You had a problem, you started a thread and solved your
problem. However we don't need confusion like I said. Please just don't continue with your suggestions. If you have a lot of experience with Flash Player, there are many other threads that you could offer your expertise on.
Ok in the uninstall or a change a program there is:
Adobe Flash Player 10 ActiveX
Adobe Flash Player 10 PlugIn
Adobe Media Player
Adobe Reader 8.1.4
Adobe Shockwave Player 11.5
I don't see the download manager.
Thanks Gagan, Have you ever installed Firefox? The 3 additional add ons are FF related and the Adobe Flash Player 10
Plugin in your Add/Remove is the plugin that would be listed for FF.
Oops, I meant the 3 additional listed in the Flash folder.
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Ok, well then is FF working with the websites? And do you want to keep it?
Each browser is independent of the other, so those entries in the Flash folder should not interfere.
Now I don't know what add ons, plugins or extenstions are listed for FF. I'd rather not try solving FF and IE issues at the same time. I have before and it is not an easy thing to do.
You have 2 old Java entries that need to be removed. Keep only the Java 6 update 17. Remove the other 2 and Reboot.
The websites look for Java also.
On the add ons and their placement, without permission/currently loaded is not an issue with IE6 which I use. Only the
fact if they are Enabled or Disabled. Since you use IE8, I don't know if where they are placed is an issue or not. If it is, then are you saying that the first 8 of your add ons in IE would not be functioning? Then we would have to conclude that
Adobe, Norton and Java did not know where to place them and didn't know you were using IE8? Or after they are installed, then you the user have to move them? Can you? Is that how it works? I have never heard of this so can't say.
I'm not too confortable with firefox, it was kind of a back up like if all else fails then I gues I would have to use that. I mean I could uninstall it delete the 2 extra java updates and see if it works? I really don't know about the whole placement of add ons thing. I mean they say enabled to my guess would be that it shouldn't effect which group they are in.
Ok so I uninstalled FF and the java update 3 and 5. I kept 17.
I understand your reason for installing FF, but if you really would rather use IE, then let's deal with that. I have an appointment soon and will be offline until later this evening.
Since we finally have SWO installed with the correct version, I would not do anything that would hamper that. About the placement of the add ons, like I said from all of the threads that I have worked on that was never even discussed. In my opinion if MS, Adobe, Norton and Java don't know where to install, then we are all in trouble. But I don't believe that.
For now I would remove the 2 old Java entries, Reboot and check your websites. When the latest Java is installed, then
only remove the latest version; any other versions on the system have to be removed manually. My understanding also,
is that the oldest Java rules as far as the websites are concerned, as the old Flash Player version and that is why if they
have updated their websites, they will tell you to do so.
Gagan, just saw your new post. Ok I think that is what I would do. Did you remove the entries in Flash Folder other than the 4 related with IE? Also did you remove the Flash Player 10 plugin in Add/Remove? Do that. And of course Reboot.
Then the next thing I would do is this: go into add ons and disable everything except SWO and Java 6 17, and then try the websites.
Will touch base with you when I get back.
Oh yeah I removed the plug in from add/remove and the other entries in the folder too. And I restarted the computer. So right now in the folder I have:
In the add-ons I disable everything except for SWO and Java 6 17. There are 2 Java 6 17 though in the add ons list so I disabled one of them. I tried youtube but nothing worked. Let me know what to do next when your back.
Oh and I checked back on the thread I have for the OneCare safety scanner and the person who replied said to try another online scanner because they don't really have a fix for the error code that I keep getting. So the question is... to try another online scanner or not?
Gagan, I read for an hour or more late last night on that forum and Microsoft MVP's and Microsoft articles. They all agreed that Cleaning the Registry from XP and forward, it is not necessary and the harm than can be done to a system is too big of a risk. The Scan forum has told everyone to NOT use the Registry Cleaner which is part of the scan. They have reported at last counts over 37 systems damaged due to that. I just received an email this morning that used (not the Saftey Scan
Registry Cleaner) another one last year and her system crashed.
So no, I did use it before I read all of this and won't use it again. I had never before used one and I won't anymore.
There are other safe ways to remove old residue, I'll give you the links later.
Yeah I read that too that's why I didn't use any scan. There is a Disk Clean up program already on the computer that came with it when I bought it. I ran that again. As for the add-ons I disabled everything except for the SWO and the java 6 17. So I disabled the 2 SSV helper there is also a SSV Helper Class, I don't remember seeing it before but I diabled that too.
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