Hi dfg, Saw your comment on another thread. It sounds like you have installed the latest version of Flash Player, 10.0.42.34.

If as you stated, you removed all add ons in FF, then you don't have the SWF vs 10.0.42.34 which you must have enabled. Check that first. I don't use FF, so can't remember at the moment if the SWF is in the add ons, extensions or

plugins, I think plugins.

In IE, go to Tools>Manage add ons and find Shockwave Flash Object....ActiveX Control....Flash10d.ocx and it must be

Enabled also.

Check in Add/Remove on the Java. The latest update just came out yesterday JRE 6 update 18, the previous update was 17.

Check this info and post back,

Thanks,

eidnolb

Hi dfg, In the IE  browser add ons you have to have the Shockwave Flash Object. In FF you have to have the SWF plugin.

These are necessary for Flash Player to work. I am not sure at this point you even have Flash Player installed.

IE8 uses different terms for the same thing. Go to Start>Control Panel, you should be able to find Add/Remove there.

Whereever your programs are listed, Windows updates, etc.

You said in your post that you had Flash Player 10.0.42.34 installed. Where is this information on your computer?

You most likely need to Uninstall and Install again. You install using IE and you install using FF.

The Java add ons indicate they are old versions. However, you need to find them in Add/Remove so you can remove them before you try to install the newest version.

On the Administrator issue, didn't you assign a password when you set  the account up and keep it? Someone on another forum said just enter "Administrator" but that is heresay. I don't use IE8 so not sure if that works or not. I know many people are having a problem, can't get software installed on their own computer because they forgot their password.

Evidently you were able to install software before so it shouldn't be a problem.

See if you can find the info on Java.

If you want to Uninstall and Install let me know.

Ok, dfg glad you updated Java and removed the old versions. I read over the posts, but I think since you have uninstalled and installed again it would be a good idea to get the latest stats.

First if you have Shockwave Flash in FF that is the SWF(abbreviation that they usually use) vs 10.0.42.34? Don't remove that.

Need the IE add ons that are now listed  and the FF add ons, plugins and extensions.

After you updated the Java, did you remember to Reboot?

In one of the installs of FP using IE, you picked up Get_atlcom Class. Go to Add/Remove and see if it is listed and if Adobe DLM(download manager) is or GetPlus. Don't do anything, just let me know if any or all are there.

Thanks

Hi Chris, Thank you. This will be helpful, not only for me, but for those that may be new to Firefox. I appreciate that you took the time to comment.

Regards,

eidnolb

Hi dfg, Those are a lot of add ons for each broswer to handle:-) Am I correct in assuming that Flash Player is not working?

Or ????

Well dfg, You have installed the Flash Player and the Shockwave Flash Object in the IE add ons. Also you have installed the SWF(Shockwave Flash) in FF. That is quite an accomplishment.

The problem before was that wasn't done. Now that you have done that, the obstruction is with the add ons, both in IE and in FF.

There are some conflicts in IE and also in FF. What I plan on doing is printing out your lists of both so I can work better with them.

The Java update, I don't think is the one that you wanted. The Java sight is very confusing and often many people install

the version and all of their many add ons that is for developers and those that use those versions to write applications.

If you do that, then that is fine. If not you may want to consider removing those via Add/Remove and Rebooting and I will give you the proper instructions and the link to install the one that is for users. You sort of jumped ahead of me on Java:-)

Now don't start uninstalling things yet. As soon as I go over this list, what I will propose is to Disable those that in my opinion are causing a conflict. Then have you try the websites that are causing you a problem. This is the easiest way to try to accomplish these conflicts.

By the way, I notice you use Spybot S&D, do you have the Tea Timer active?

Also without searching I con't remember if you use a Third party firewall?

Whatever you do dfg, don't uninstall and install Flash Player:-) You have it right where it should be.

I'll get back to asap.

Oh and thanks for all the hard work and supplying the add ons.

On Java, in IE I see the ActiveX controls that would indicate JRE 6 Update 18, however that is not the case in FF.

In the add ons for FF, the platform is SE 6 update 18 and all of those add ons indicate that. See the Java bean entries?

That is not installed or a part of the JRE platform.

We can address that later.

Right now, I want to work on IE. But another question, you have an AOL plugin in FF, nothing of AOL in IE? Just want to be sure. The following add ons in IE, I would like for you to Disable; if any of AOL is there then disable it as well.

Any add on listed of Spybot.

JQSIEStartDetectorImpl Class (Java ActiveX)

2 SSV Helper (Java ActiveX (BHO)

Office Update Installation Engine ( for the simple reason it is "Not verified" This to me is strange, Microsoft didn't verify their own ActiveX??? Disable it anyway.

Now when I disable or enable any of my add ons in IE I don't have to reboot; don't know about IE. Try it without rebooting

You are probably as tired of rebooting as I am. I've been working on the .NET Framework updates and Core Services for Windows:-)

Do the disabling first and try a website, answer my questions after that.

Thanks

dfg,  I thot the Spybot Resident was the Tea Timer.

bites the dust - sigh!!

Ah, well.

What I'm gonna do for my next trick is post everything I've got in my About:Plugins Firefox page right here.  Because Flash is working just fine in my Firefox and someone who knows a bit more than I do - which isn't hard, let's face it - might be able to spot the difference between my plug-ins and your plug-ins and be able to deduct why it's working on my FF and not yours.

Just incase it makes a difference - it might - my version is 3.5.7

Right.  Here's the post.  I couldn't spot any obvious differences (that I could see would MAKE a difference if you see what I mean) but one of the gurus here might be able to.

Microsoft® Windows Media Player Firefox Plugin

File name: np-mswmp.dll

np-mswmp

Shockwave Flash

File name: NPSWF32.dll

Shockwave Flash 10.0 r42

Mozilla Default Plug-in

File name: npnul32.dll

Default Plug-in

QuickTime Plug-in 7.6.4

File name: npqtplugin6.dll

The QuickTime Plugin allows you to view a wide variety of multimedia content in Web pages. For more information, visit the QuickTime Web site.

QuickTime Plug-in 7.6.4

File name: npqtplugin5.dll

The QuickTime Plugin allows you to view a wide variety of multimedia content in Web pages. For more information, visit the QuickTime Web site.

QuickTime Plug-in 7.6.4

File name: npqtplugin4.dll

The QuickTime Plugin allows you to view a wide variety of multimedia content in Web pages. For more information, visit the QuickTime Web site.

QuickTime Plug-in 7.6.4

File name: npqtplugin3.dll

The QuickTime Plugin allows you to view a wide variety of multimedia content in Web pages. For more information, visit the QuickTime Web site.

QuickTime Plug-in 7.6.4

File name: npqtplugin2.dll

The QuickTime Plugin allows you to view a wide variety of multimedia content in Web pages. For more information, visit the QuickTime Web site.

QuickTime Plug-in 7.6.4

File name: npqtplugin.dll

The QuickTime Plugin allows you to view a wide variety of multimedia content in Web pages. For more information, visit the QuickTime Web site.

DivX Player Netscape Plugin

File name: npDivxPlayerPlugin.dll

npdivxplayerplugin

Java Deployment Toolkit 6.0.170.4

File name: npdeploytk.dll

NPRuntime Script Plug-in Library for Java(TM) Deploy

RealJukebox NS Plugin

File name: nprjplug.dll

RealJukebox Netscape Plugin

RealPlayer(tm) G2 LiveConnect-Enabled Plug-In (32-bit)

File name: nppl3260.dll

RealPlayer(tm) LiveConnect-Enabled Plug-In

RealPlayer Version Plugin

File name: nprpjplug.dll

6.0.12.448

Foxit Reader Plugin for Mozilla

File name: npFoxitReaderPlugin.dll

Foxit Reader Plug-In For Firefox and Netscape

Shockwave for Director

File name: np32dsw.dll

Macromedia Shockwave for Director Netscape plug-in, version 10.0

DivX Web Player

File name: npdivx32.dll

DivX Web Player version 2.0.0.254

Yahoo Application State Plugin

File name: npYState.dll

Yahoo Application State Plugin version 1.0.0.7

Silverlight Plug-In

File name: npctrl.dll

3.0.40818.0

Google Update

File name: npGoogleOneClick8.dll

Google Update

Veoh Web Player Beta

File name: npWebPlayerVideoPluginATL.dll

Veoh Web Video Player Browser Plugin

Java(TM) Platform SE 6 U17

File name: npjp2.dll

Next Generation Java Plug-in 1.6.0_17 for Mozilla browsers

Microsoft® DRM

File name: npdrmv2.dll

DRM Netscape Network Object

Windows Media Player Plug-in Dynamic Link Library

File name: npdsplay.dll

Npdsplay dll

Microsoft® DRM

File name: npwmsdrm.dll

DRM Store Netscape Plugin

Wish I knew more so I could help you more.  Sorry I don't.  It's odd about that sequence thing not working - disabling Acrobat first - because if I tried reinstallijng Flash Player with Acrobat active it didn't happen every time.  With Acrobat disabled, it re-installed fine AND worked (and is working now!) I thought I was onto something there.

Workaround - possibly.  I HAVE discovered that if you've got Winamp active and you go to a streaming web page, more often than not Winamp will pick up on the web page and start streaming it for you.  VLC can stream flash, but you have to know the address of the actual video source, not just the .ASPX address - that's the active webpage, not necessarily the source of the video even though you can see it there. There ARE ways of doing this and I can't explain any better than by posting this link (Gurus, please don't delete this because it's got a link on it, have a look at the page I'm linking to and you'll see it is relevant to this thread.  I'm not spamming.)

http://www.pallab.net/2007/06/05/comprehensive-guide-to-saving-streami ng-video/

I know it says guide to SAVING streaming video, but it's also a great guide to FINDING the video source in the  first place.  Once you've got the source URL, you can paste it into VLC or Winamp and watch it that way, thereby meaning you don't need to get Flash sorted to watch YouTube etc.  Not sure about interactive Flash, like games and stuff, never tried playing games in Winamp but I think it wouldn't work. But Flash streaming would. If they try to hide the name of the video, its size will always give it away.  It'll be the biggest link in the source code, guaranteed!

I've gotten the stuff from the above link working quite well, so you can ask me any questions you like about it and chances are it'll be the one question I don't know the answer to... NO! I mean, chances are I'll be able to answer them.

Yours respectfully

ulrichburke.

Hello Chrisulrich, However well intended your suggestions may or may not be, you are thread jacking. If you have problems you need to start your own thread.

Your experiments with your own computer is fine, but I resent you offering those experiments to someone that I am helping. I have seen this happen on this forum before and people follow this and dig a bigger hole and have more problems than they started out with.

It is my practice to submit to the senior participants with 1500 posts and up, because they have much more experience

than I. You can find the list of them on the right side of the forum.

The installation of Flash Player and any update is not rocket science. Following the well laid out instructions of Adobe's

articles will be successful. People say they do, but they don't. They follow part of them. There is a procedure and a process.

Now you have suggested steps to take that is going to undo the progress that dfg has made, what with your "next trick"

and now you are going to instruct him on "saving-streaming video". I wasn't aware that was his goal. To "save" streaming video, I assumed you had to be able to "stream" it first. Is that done with or without Flash Player working??

And by the way the Subject of dfg's thread is "Flash Player has stopped working"  All you are doing is causing confusion

and interfering in someone else's attempt to help dfg.

You are most certainly free to try any experiment or follow any link you like, but it is highly rude to suggest to others to do so.

eidnolb

I've just been to Fififaux (hope I've spelled that right) and checked it out.  It seems to be a bunch of still graphics on what looks like a notepad.  Some of them are pretty stylish but there's no movement to them or anything.  Is the site supposed to be playing music as well, then? If it is, I couldn't hear anything.

But I can hear sound perfectly on YouTube and Veoh and Zshare, all of which stream content in .FLV format which is Flash Video format.  And on any other streaming site, though some of them take forever to buffer up.  Which I don't think is anything wrong with Firefox, I think they're just crappily constructed sites, not counting the Chinese ones like Youku which are slow for a different reason.  They're slow because they reserve 99% of their bandwidth for Eastern users, understandably, that's their core market.  We get the scrapings.  Hence the slowness!  If you use a proxy to trick the system into thinking you're in Asia, hello warp speed.  I've done that, it works like a dream.

If you tell me what I'm SUPPOSED to hear on Fififaux, and what I click on to hear it (I thought it would be a YouTube type site but like I said it all seems to be still images.  If any of them are supposed to move, tell me, if any of them are supposed to move and make noises, tell me which ones.  If I can find A Particular Problem to bat my head against, I'm just stubborn enough to butt it down.) I'll go back there and click on it and find out what I have to do to make it work in my Firefox, and then report back here with the solution.  Like I said, .FLV streaming sites work fine with me in Firefox.

Prestonsbeat works fine, but BOY could that guy do with a few singing lessons.  Dunno what's more out of tune, his guitar or his vocal cords.  I hope to heck it's the guitar but I've got a sinking feeling I'm wrong...

Get back to me on that Fififaux site, it's a challenge and I love challenges.  I DO have an idea - I think it's not just Flash that's the problem.  I think theer's Java applets going on there somewheres and Firefox never has liked Java too much. Why do I think this? I play Yahoo pool a lot.  It's better on the recent versions, but if you got booted from a table on the earlier versions, it would guaranteed crash Firefox and you had to reboot either Firefox or the whole computer! Java's a lot more stable since Version 2.0;0.20, but it seems to be an armed truce more than a peace treaty! There's a bit on the Fififaux page that says about needing Java enabling as well as Flash.  Now Yahoo picks up on Java and Flash in my Firefox.  PlayJava site does - usually - there's a couple of games that don't show up. Like I said, tell me what I should be hearing on the Fififaux site and I'll have another go at it!

Interesting....

Yours respectfully

ulrichburke

I must admit I'd never heard of the Wordpress plug-in before today - my ignorance!

It's sure working fine now, I didn't realise you were actually constructing that feefifaux site, I thought you'd just visited it and discovered you couldn't hear anything.  That's why I suggested trying other streaming sites.  Sorry for my misunderstanding.

I'm glad it's working now.  It's working for me, too - just went back there and heard the tune.  It sounds like a ghostly version of one of the tunes a British band called the Specials used to do, years ago.  They were good at that kind of ghostly reggae, too!

Respect to you and eidnolb both.

Chris.