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Flash Player has stopped working

Jan 14, 2010 3:30 PM

Recently my Flash Player has stopped working in both Firefox 3.5.7 and IE 8.0.6001.18792 on Windows XP. I have no other browsers installed.

 

If I go to http://feefifaux.net or http://prestonsbeat.com in either browser I get a message saying that I need to install Flash Player 9 despite the fact that I have Flash Player 10.0.42.34 and Flash Player ActiveX 10.0.42.34 installed. I have tried removing them and re-installing them. Other people can hear/see this content and I used to be able to hear/see it.

 

Firefox add-ons have all been removed. IE addons have all been disabled. Still it doesn't work. Other people can hear the embedded audio. I used to be able to hear it. When I install the player it says the install was successful and I can see the animation on that page but I still can't hear these audio clips.

 

I amn using Windows Firewall and Avira Anti-Vir free edition, which is my only TSR.

 

This may have been triggered by a recent Firefox upgrade, which seems to coincide with when the problem started.

 

Thanks for any advice.

 
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    Jan 15, 2010 7:27 PM   in reply to dfghgfd

    Hi dfg, Saw your comment on another thread. It sounds like you have installed the latest version of Flash Player, 10.0.42.34.

     

    If as you stated, you removed all add ons in FF, then you don't have the SWF vs 10.0.42.34 which you must have enabled. Check that first. I don't use FF, so can't remember at the moment if the SWF is in the add ons, extensions or

    plugins, I think plugins.

     

    In IE, go to Tools>Manage add ons and find Shockwave Flash Object....ActiveX Control....Flash10d.ocx and it must be

    Enabled also.

     

    Check in Add/Remove on the Java. The latest update just came out yesterday JRE 6 update 18, the previous update was 17.

     

    Check this info and post back,

     

    Thanks,

    eidnolb

     
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    Jan 16, 2010 11:44 AM   in reply to dfghgfd

    Hi dfg, In the IE  browser add ons you have to have the Shockwave Flash Object. In FF you have to have the SWF plugin.

    These are necessary for Flash Player to work. I am not sure at this point you even have Flash Player installed.

    IE8 uses different terms for the same thing. Go to Start>Control Panel, you should be able to find Add/Remove there.

    Whereever your programs are listed, Windows updates, etc.

     

    You said in your post that you had Flash Player 10.0.42.34 installed. Where is this information on your computer?

     

    You most likely need to Uninstall and Install again. You install using IE and you install using FF.

    The Java add ons indicate they are old versions. However, you need to find them in Add/Remove so you can remove them before you try to install the newest version.

     

    On the Administrator issue, didn't you assign a password when you set  the account up and keep it? Someone on another forum said just enter "Administrator" but that is heresay. I don't use IE8 so not sure if that works or not. I know many people are having a problem, can't get software installed on their own computer because they forgot their password.

     

    Evidently you were able to install software before so it shouldn't be a problem.

     

    See if you can find the info on Java.

    If you want to Uninstall and Install let me know.

     
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    Jan 16, 2010 5:43 PM   in reply to dfghgfd

    Hi dfg, Just got back home. I'll review your info and get back to you in a few minutes.

     

     

    eidnolb

     
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    Jan 16, 2010 6:06 PM   in reply to eidnolb

    Ok, dfg glad you updated Java and removed the old versions. I read over the posts, but I think since you have uninstalled and installed again it would be a good idea to get the latest stats.

     

    First if you have Shockwave Flash in FF that is the SWF(abbreviation that they usually use) vs 10.0.42.34? Don't remove that.

     

    Need the IE add ons that are now listed  and the FF add ons, plugins and extensions.

     

    After you updated the Java, did you remember to Reboot?

     

    In one of the installs of FP using IE, you picked up Get_atlcom Class. Go to Add/Remove and see if it is listed and if Adobe DLM(download manager) is or GetPlus. Don't do anything, just let me know if any or all are there.

     

     

    Thanks

     
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    Jan 17, 2010 2:38 AM   in reply to dfghgfd

    If this helps any, you can see all the plug-ins you're using in Firefox by typing About:Plugins in the address bar.  It isn't a web address as such, it's a special command that will bring up a browser window with a list of all the plug-ins you're using. You can enable/disable them from within that window.

     

    Yours respectfully

     

    ulrichburke

     
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    Jan 17, 2010 10:51 AM   in reply to Chrisulrich

    Hi Chris, Thank you. This will be helpful, not only for me, but for those that may be new to Firefox. I appreciate that you took the time to comment.

     

     

    Regards,

    eidnolb

     
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    Jan 17, 2010 7:39 PM   in reply to dfghgfd

    Hi dfg, Those are a lot of add ons for each broswer to handle:-) Am I correct in assuming that Flash Player is not working?

     

    Or ????

     
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    Jan 17, 2010 8:08 PM   in reply to dfghgfd

    Well dfg, You have installed the Flash Player and the Shockwave Flash Object in the IE add ons. Also you have installed the SWF(Shockwave Flash) in FF. That is quite an accomplishment.

     

    The problem before was that wasn't done. Now that you have done that, the obstruction is with the add ons, both in IE and in FF.

     

    There are some conflicts in IE and also in FF. What I plan on doing is printing out your lists of both so I can work better with them.

     

    The Java update, I don't think is the one that you wanted. The Java sight is very confusing and often many people install

    the version and all of their many add ons that is for developers and those that use those versions to write applications.

    If you do that, then that is fine. If not you may want to consider removing those via Add/Remove and Rebooting and I will give you the proper instructions and the link to install the one that is for users. You sort of jumped ahead of me on Java:-)

     

    Now don't start uninstalling things yet. As soon as I go over this list, what I will propose is to Disable those that in my opinion are causing a conflict. Then have you try the websites that are causing you a problem. This is the easiest way to try to accomplish these conflicts.

     

    By the way, I notice you use Spybot S&D, do you have the Tea Timer active?

    Also without searching I con't remember if you use a Third party firewall?

     

    Whatever you do dfg, don't uninstall and install Flash Player:-) You have it right where it should be.

     

    I'll get back to asap.

    Oh and thanks for all the hard work and supplying the add ons.

     
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    Jan 17, 2010 8:36 PM   in reply to dfghgfd

    On Java, in IE I see the ActiveX controls that would indicate JRE 6 Update 18, however that is not the case in FF.

     

    In the add ons for FF, the platform is SE 6 update 18 and all of those add ons indicate that. See the Java bean entries?

    That is not installed or a part of the JRE platform.

    We can address that later.

     

    Right now, I want to work on IE. But another question, you have an AOL plugin in FF, nothing of AOL in IE? Just want to be sure. The following add ons in IE, I would like for you to Disable; if any of AOL is there then disable it as well.

     

    Any add on listed of Spybot.

    JQSIEStartDetectorImpl Class (Java ActiveX)

    2 SSV Helper (Java ActiveX (BHO)

    Office Update Installation Engine ( for the simple reason it is "Not verified" This to me is strange, Microsoft didn't verify their own ActiveX??? Disable it anyway.

     

    Now when I disable or enable any of my add ons in IE I don't have to reboot; don't know about IE. Try it without rebooting

    You are probably as tired of rebooting as I am. I've been working on the .NET Framework updates and Core Services for Windows:-)

     

    Do the disabling first and try a website, answer my questions after that.

    Thanks

     
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    Jan 17, 2010 8:39 PM   in reply to dfghgfd

    Dear dfghghd.

     

    As long as the other folks who are more expert than I am in the subject of Flash concur, try the following.  I did a WODGE of tests because Flash works fine in my Firefox, so I wanted to find something that stopped it working.  And discovered Adobe Acrobat and Flash clash.  Pretty dumb as they're both by the same firm, but you've got to install them in sequence. I got the sequence right in my FF by sheer dumb arse luck!! Anyway.  After lots of testing, try this:

     

    1. Go into tools and click Add-ons
    2. Disable Adobe Acrobat
    3. Go to the Adobe.com and download Adobe Flash Player
    4. Close Firefox completely
    5. Install Adobe Flash Player normally
    6. Go into Firefox and repeat steps 1 and 2 this time Enable Adobe Acrobat.
    Adobe Flash Player should now work.

     

    You can't have Acrobat working while you're installing Flash, they don't seem to like eachother.  Not sure why. But you CAN have it working after you've installed Flash, THEN they get along OK.

     

    If the techie-types here don't like this idea, I'd go along with them, I'm not that much of a techie, I just try things out a lot.

     

    Yours respectfully - please tell me if this works for you otherwise I'll wonder forever!

     

    ulrichburke

     
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    Jan 17, 2010 8:39 PM   in reply to eidnolb

    dfg,  I thot the Spybot Resident was the Tea Timer.

     
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    Jan 17, 2010 9:26 PM   in reply to eidnolb

    Hi dfg, I am about to sign off for the night. I think you need to take a look at your Add/Remove. I see a Windows Media

    Player plugin in FF, but I don't see any required ActiveX Controls for WMP in IE. Also in FF you have the Microsoft DRM plugin. If you have Windows Media Player installed, then to hear or see videos with IE, you need the ActiveX.

     

    Many programs that are installed have ActiveX Controls in IE and the plugins in FF. Maybe things are out of sync:-)

     

    You are making progress, everything needs to be done in an orderly manner. Steps 1-5 before 6-10. Trust me, I know where I'm going. Some of the ducks on your system are out of the row and we are trying to get all of them back in the correct row.

     

    You are a lot closer to solving your problems than you were.

     

     

    Regards,

    eidnolb

     

    Oh, and yes the S&D Resident tool is the Tea Timer, here are a couple of links.

    Another thot: Does Spybot now contain any anti-virus features? If so they will probably conflict with Avira.

    http://forums.spybot.info/blog.php?b=36

     

    http://forums.spybot.info/blog.php?b=36

     
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    Jan 18, 2010 10:40 AM   in reply to dfghgfd

    bites the dust - sigh!!

     

    Ah, well.

     

    What I'm gonna do for my next trick is post everything I've got in my About:Plugins Firefox page right here.  Because Flash is working just fine in my Firefox and someone who knows a bit more than I do - which isn't hard, let's face it - might be able to spot the difference between my plug-ins and your plug-ins and be able to deduct why it's working on my FF and not yours.

     

    Just incase it makes a difference - it might - my version is 3.5.7

     

    Right.  Here's the post.  I couldn't spot any obvious differences (that I could see would MAKE a difference if you see what I mean) but one of the gurus here might be able to.

     

    Microsoft® Windows Media Player Firefox Plugin

    File name: np-mswmp.dll
    np-mswmp
    MIME Type Description Suffixes Enabled
    application/x-ms-wmpnp-mswmp*Yes
    application/asx*Yes
    video/x-ms-asf-plugin*Yes
    application/x-mplayer2*Yes
    video/x-ms-asfasf,asx,*Yes
    video/x-ms-wmwm,*Yes
    audio/x-ms-wmawma,*Yes
    audio/x-ms-waxwax,*Yes
    video/x-ms-wmvwmv,*Yes
    video/x-ms-wvxwvx,*Yes

    Shockwave Flash

    File name: NPSWF32.dll
    Shockwave Flash 10.0 r42
    MIME Type Description Suffixes Enabled
    application/x-shockwave-flashAdobe Flash movieswfYes
    application/futuresplashFutureSplash moviesplYes

    Mozilla Default Plug-in

    File name: npnul32.dll
    Default Plug-in
    MIME Type Description Suffixes Enabled
    *Mozilla Default Plug-in*No

    QuickTime Plug-in 7.6.4

    File name: npqtplugin6.dll
    The QuickTime Plugin allows you to view a wide variety of multimedia content in Web pages. For more information, visit the QuickTime Web site.
    MIME Type Description Suffixes Enabled
    image/x-jpeg2000-imageJPEG2000 imagejp2Yes

    QuickTime Plug-in 7.6.4

    File name: npqtplugin5.dll
    The QuickTime Plugin allows you to view a wide variety of multimedia content in Web pages. For more information, visit the QuickTime Web site.
    MIME Type Description Suffixes Enabled
    image/x-macpaintMacPaint imagepntg,pnt,macYes
    image/pictPICT imagepict,pic,pctYes
    image/x-pictPICT imagepict,pic,pctYes
    image/x-quicktimeQuickTime imageqtif,qtiYes
    image/x-sgiSGI imagesgi,rgbYes
    image/x-targaTGA imagetarga,tgaYes
    image/jp2JPEG2000 imagejp2Yes
    image/jpeg2000JPEG2000 imagejp2Yes
    image/jpeg2000-imageJPEG2000 imagejp2Yes

    QuickTime Plug-in 7.6.4

    File name: npqtplugin4.dll
    The QuickTime Plugin allows you to view a wide variety of multimedia content in Web pages. For more information, visit the QuickTime Web site.
    MIME Type Description Suffixes Enabled
    audio/x-m4pAAC audio (protected)m4pYes
    audio/x-m4bAAC audio bookm4bYes
    video/x-m4vVideo (protected)m4vYes
    audio/mpegMP3 audiomp3,swaYes
    audio/x-mpegMP3 audiomp3,swaYes
    audio/mp3MP3 audiomp3,swaYes
    audio/x-mp3MP3 audiomp3,swaYes
    audio/mpeg3MP3 audiomp3,swaYes
    audio/x-mpeg3MP3 audiomp3,swaYes

    QuickTime Plug-in 7.6.4

    File name: npqtplugin3.dll
    The QuickTime Plugin allows you to view a wide variety of multimedia content in Web pages. For more information, visit the QuickTime Web site.
    MIME Type Description Suffixes Enabled
    audio/x-gsmGSM audiogsmYes
    audio/AMRAMR audioAMRYes
    audio/x-cafCAF audiocafYes
    audio/ac3AC3 audioac3Yes
    audio/x-ac3AC3 audioac3Yes
    video/3gpp3GPP media3gp,3gppYes
    audio/3gpp3GPP media3gp,3gppYes
    video/3gpp23GPP2 media3g2,3gp2Yes
    audio/3gpp23GPP2 media3g2,3gp2Yes
    video/sd-videoSD videosdvYes
    application/x-mpegAMC mediaamcYes

    QuickTime Plug-in 7.6.4

    File name: npqtplugin2.dll
    The QuickTime Plugin allows you to view a wide variety of multimedia content in Web pages. For more information, visit the QuickTime Web site.
    MIME Type Description Suffixes Enabled
    audio/aiffAIFF audioaiff,aif,aifc,cddaYes
    audio/x-aiffAIFF audioaiff,aif,aifc,cddaYes
    audio/basicuLaw/AU audioau,snd,ulwYes
    audio/midMIDImid,midi,smf,karYes
    audio/x-midiMIDImid,midi,smf,karYes
    audio/midiMIDImid,midi,smf,karYes
    audio/vnd.qcelpQUALCOMM PureVoice audioqcpYes

    QuickTime Plug-in 7.6.4

    File name: npqtplugin.dll
    The QuickTime Plugin allows you to view a wide variety of multimedia content in Web pages. For more information, visit the QuickTime Web site.
    MIME Type Description Suffixes Enabled
    application/sdpSDP stream descriptorsdpYes
    application/x-sdpSDP stream descriptorsdpYes
    application/x-rtspRTSP stream descriptorrtsp,rtsYes
    video/quicktimeQuickTime Moviemov,qt,mqvYes
    video/flcAutoDesk Animator (FLC)flc,fli,celYes
    audio/x-wavWAVE audiowav,bwfYes
    audio/wavWAVE audiowav,bwfYes

    DivX Player Netscape Plugin

    File name: npDivxPlayerPlugin.dll
    npdivxplayerplugin
    MIME Type Description Suffixes Enabled
    application/divxplayer-pluginnpdivxplayerpluginscrYes

    Java Deployment Toolkit 6.0.170.4

    File name: npdeploytk.dll
    NPRuntime Script Plug-in Library for Java(TM) Deploy
    MIME Type Description Suffixes Enabled
    application/npruntime-scriptable-plugin;DeploymentToolkitYes

    RealJukebox NS Plugin

    File name: nprjplug.dll
    RealJukebox Netscape Plugin
    MIME Type Description Suffixes Enabled
    noneRealJukebox NS Plugin FilenoneYes

    RealPlayer(tm) G2 LiveConnect-Enabled Plug-In (32-bit)

    File name: nppl3260.dll
    RealPlayer(tm) LiveConnect-Enabled Plug-In
    MIME Type Description Suffixes Enabled
    audio/x-pn-realaudio-pluginRealPlayer(tm) as Plug-inrpmYes

    RealPlayer Version Plugin

    File name: nprpjplug.dll
    6.0.12.448
    MIME Type Description Suffixes Enabled
    application/vnd.rn-realplayer-javascriptRealPlayer Version PluginrpjYes

    Foxit Reader Plugin for Mozilla

    File name: npFoxitReaderPlugin.dll
    Foxit Reader Plug-In For Firefox and Netscape
    MIME Type Description Suffixes Enabled
    application/pdfAcrobat Portable Document FormatpdfYes

    Shockwave for Director

    File name: np32dsw.dll
    Macromedia Shockwave for Director Netscape plug-in, version 10.0
    MIME Type Description Suffixes Enabled
    application/x-directorShockwave Moviedir,dxr,dcrYes

    DivX Web Player

    File name: npdivx32.dll
    DivX Web Player version 2.0.0.254
    MIME Type Description Suffixes Enabled
    video/divxDivX Video Filesdivx,divYes

    Yahoo Application State Plugin

    File name: npYState.dll
    Yahoo Application State Plugin version 1.0.0.7
    MIME Type Description Suffixes Enabled
    application/x-vnd.yahoo.applicationStatenpYStatenpYStateYes

    Silverlight Plug-In

    File name: npctrl.dll
    3.0.40818.0
    MIME Type Description Suffixes Enabled
    application/x-silverlightnpctrlscrYes
    application/x-silverlight-2Yes

    Google Update

    File name: npGoogleOneClick8.dll
    Google Update
    MIME Type Description Suffixes Enabled
    application/x-vnd.google.oneclickctrl.8Yes

    Veoh Web Player Beta

    File name: npWebPlayerVideoPluginATL.dll
    Veoh Web Video Player Browser Plugin
    MIME Type Description Suffixes Enabled
    application/x-webplayervideopluginYes

    Java(TM) Platform SE 6 U17

    File name: npjp2.dll
    Next Generation Java Plug-in 1.6.0_17 for Mozilla browsers
    MIME Type Description Suffixes Enabled
    application/x-java-appletJava AppletYes
    application/x-java-beanJavaBeansYes
    application/x-java-vmYes
    application/x-java-applet;version=1.1.1Yes
    application/x-java-bean;version=1.1.1Yes
    application/x-java-applet;version=1.1Yes
    application/x-java-bean;version=1.1Yes
    application/x-java-applet;version=1.2Yes
    application/x-java-bean;version=1.2Yes
    application/x-java-applet;version=1.1.3Yes
    application/x-java-bean;version=1.1.3Yes
    application/x-java-applet;version=1.1.2Yes
    application/x-java-bean;version=1.1.2Yes
    application/x-java-applet;version=1.3Yes
    application/x-java-bean;version=1.3Yes
    application/x-java-applet;version=1.2.2Yes
    application/x-java-bean;version=1.2.2Yes
    application/x-java-applet;version=1.2.1Yes
    application/x-java-bean;version=1.2.1Yes
    application/x-java-applet;version=1.3.1Yes
    application/x-java-bean;version=1.3.1Yes
    application/x-java-applet;version=1.4Yes
    application/x-java-bean;version=1.4Yes
    application/x-java-applet;version=1.4.1Yes
    application/x-java-bean;version=1.4.1Yes
    application/x-java-applet;version=1.4.2Yes
    application/x-java-bean;version=1.4.2Yes
    application/x-java-applet;version=1.5Yes
    application/x-java-bean;version=1.5Yes
    application/x-java-applet;version=1.6Yes
    application/x-java-bean;version=1.6Yes
    application/x-java-applet;jpi-version=1.6.0_17Yes
    application/x-java-bean;jpi-version=1.6.0_17Yes

    Microsoft® DRM

    File name: npdrmv2.dll
    DRM Netscape Network Object
    MIME Type Description Suffixes Enabled
    application/x-drm-v2Network Interface PluginnipYes

    Windows Media Player Plug-in Dynamic Link Library

    File name: npdsplay.dll
    Npdsplay dll
    MIME Type Description Suffixes Enabled
    application/asxMedia Files*Yes
    video/x-ms-asf-pluginMedia Files*Yes
    application/x-mplayer2Media Files*Yes
    video/x-ms-asfMedia Filesasf,asx,*Yes
    video/x-ms-wmMedia Fileswm,*Yes
    audio/x-ms-wmaMedia Fileswma,*Yes
    audio/x-ms-waxMedia Fileswax,*Yes
    video/x-ms-wmvMedia Fileswmv,*Yes
    video/x-ms-wvxMedia Fileswvx,*Yes

    Microsoft® DRM

    File name: npwmsdrm.dll
    DRM Store Netscape Plugin
    MIME Type Description Suffixes Enabled
    application/x-drmNetwork Interface PluginnipYes

     

    Wish I knew more so I could help you more.  Sorry I don't.  It's odd about that sequence thing not working - disabling Acrobat first - because if I tried reinstallijng Flash Player with Acrobat active it didn't happen every time.  With Acrobat disabled, it re-installed fine AND worked (and is working now!) I thought I was onto something there.

     

    Workaround - possibly.  I HAVE discovered that if you've got Winamp active and you go to a streaming web page, more often than not Winamp will pick up on the web page and start streaming it for you.  VLC can stream flash, but you have to know the address of the actual video source, not just the .ASPX address - that's the active webpage, not necessarily the source of the video even though you can see it there. There ARE ways of doing this and I can't explain any better than by posting this link (Gurus, please don't delete this because it's got a link on it, have a look at the page I'm linking to and you'll see it is relevant to this thread.  I'm not spamming.)

     

    http://www.pallab.net/2007/06/05/comprehensive-guide-to-saving-streami ng-video/

     

    I know it says guide to SAVING streaming video, but it's also a great guide to FINDING the video source in the  first place.  Once you've got the source URL, you can paste it into VLC or Winamp and watch it that way, thereby meaning you don't need to get Flash sorted to watch YouTube etc.  Not sure about interactive Flash, like games and stuff, never tried playing games in Winamp but I think it wouldn't work. But Flash streaming would. If they try to hide the name of the video, its size will always give it away.  It'll be the biggest link in the source code, guaranteed!

     

    I've gotten the stuff from the above link working quite well, so you can ask me any questions you like about it and chances are it'll be the one question I don't know the answer to... NO! I mean, chances are I'll be able to answer them.

     

    Yours respectfully

     

    ulrichburke.

     
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    Jan 18, 2010 9:13 AM   in reply to Chrisulrich

    Hello Chrisulrich, However well intended your suggestions may or may not be, you are thread jacking. If you have problems you need to start your own thread.

     

    Your experiments with your own computer is fine, but I resent you offering those experiments to someone that I am helping. I have seen this happen on this forum before and people follow this and dig a bigger hole and have more problems than they started out with.

     

    It is my practice to submit to the senior participants with 1500 posts and up, because they have much more experience

    than I. You can find the list of them on the right side of the forum.

     

    The installation of Flash Player and any update is not rocket science. Following the well laid out instructions of Adobe's

    articles will be successful. People say they do, but they don't. They follow part of them. There is a procedure and a process.

     

    Now you have suggested steps to take that is going to undo the progress that dfg has made, what with your "next trick"

    and now you are going to instruct him on "saving-streaming video". I wasn't aware that was his goal. To "save" streaming video, I assumed you had to be able to "stream" it first. Is that done with or without Flash Player working??

     

    And by the way the Subject of dfg's thread is "Flash Player has stopped working"  All you are doing is causing confusion

    and interfering in someone else's attempt to help dfg.

     

    You are most certainly free to try any experiment or follow any link you like, but it is highly rude to suggest to others to do so.

     

    eidnolb

     
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    Jan 18, 2010 9:19 AM   in reply to dfghgfd

    Hi dfg, We seem to have reached a fork in the road here. By following Chris's experimental suggestions, you are continuing to move the goal posts. I can't help you when the target keeps moving.

     

    I had asked you in my post #15 to you to not uninstall again, but you followed his suggestion that does not even make sense. You can't take directions, dfg from opposite opinions. So, you need to stop following his suggestions or follow them and I will move on.

     

    Regards,

    eidnolb

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    I have already addressed this to Chris.

     
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    Jan 18, 2010 9:30 AM   in reply to dfghgfd

    I've just been to Fififaux (hope I've spelled that right) and checked it out.  It seems to be a bunch of still graphics on what looks like a notepad.  Some of them are pretty stylish but there's no movement to them or anything.  Is the site supposed to be playing music as well, then? If it is, I couldn't hear anything.

     

    But I can hear sound perfectly on YouTube and Veoh and Zshare, all of which stream content in .FLV format which is Flash Video format.  And on any other streaming site, though some of them take forever to buffer up.  Which I don't think is anything wrong with Firefox, I think they're just crappily constructed sites, not counting the Chinese ones like Youku which are slow for a different reason.  They're slow because they reserve 99% of their bandwidth for Eastern users, understandably, that's their core market.  We get the scrapings.  Hence the slowness!  If you use a proxy to trick the system into thinking you're in Asia, hello warp speed.  I've done that, it works like a dream.

     

    If you tell me what I'm SUPPOSED to hear on Fififaux, and what I click on to hear it (I thought it would be a YouTube type site but like I said it all seems to be still images.  If any of them are supposed to move, tell me, if any of them are supposed to move and make noises, tell me which ones.  If I can find A Particular Problem to bat my head against, I'm just stubborn enough to butt it down.) I'll go back there and click on it and find out what I have to do to make it work in my Firefox, and then report back here with the solution.  Like I said, .FLV streaming sites work fine with me in Firefox.

     

    Prestonsbeat works fine, but BOY could that guy do with a few singing lessons.  Dunno what's more out of tune, his guitar or his vocal cords.  I hope to heck it's the guitar but I've got a sinking feeling I'm wrong...

     

    Get back to me on that Fififaux site, it's a challenge and I love challenges.  I DO have an idea - I think it's not just Flash that's the problem.  I think theer's Java applets going on there somewheres and Firefox never has liked Java too much. Why do I think this? I play Yahoo pool a lot.  It's better on the recent versions, but if you got booted from a table on the earlier versions, it would guaranteed crash Firefox and you had to reboot either Firefox or the whole computer! Java's a lot more stable since Version 2.0;0.20, but it seems to be an armed truce more than a peace treaty! There's a bit on the Fififaux page that says about needing Java enabling as well as Flash.  Now Yahoo picks up on Java and Flash in my Firefox.  PlayJava site does - usually - there's a couple of games that don't show up. Like I said, tell me what I should be hearing on the Fififaux site and I'll have another go at it!

     

    Interesting....

     

    Yours respectfully

     

    ulrichburke

     
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    Jan 18, 2010 9:48 AM   in reply to eidnolb

    you'd realise that I was showing that link because it showed how to find the source URL of the video you want to see, using a piece of good-quality freeware.  You can then stream it via VLC or WInamp.  I was not advising anyone to save it, it's just that if you can't watch vids within the browser, that's a perfectly good workaround. I use it myself to stream video sometimes because it's faster and smoother than using the browser software on some sites, especially when they're busy.  May I suggest reading my posts before shooting from the lip?

     

    As far as the disabling of Acrobat before installing Flash goes, it was something i'd discovered that was worth a try.  When you're trying to fix anything to do with computers, it's a process of elimination.  You try one thing at a time, chuck out everything that doesn't work and you must be left with something that DOES work.  I discovered that having Acrobat enabled stopped Flash from installing properly.  So I just listed the sequence that I had to install the packages in to make them work on my system.  If it didn't work for her, fine, it's another possibility gotten rid of.  One step closer to finding the needle within the haystack. Trying it out won't make anything any worse, it just means another possibility eliminated.

     

    And I don't notice you bunch of geniuses exactly coming up with lists of things to try and eliminate.  I never claimed to be an expert, if you read my posts you'll see I say that on several occasions, but at least I'm coming up with ideas.  She is, of course, free to try yours as well, when they appear.  Eventually, we'll eliminate everything that's impossible and be left with the possibly improbable truth!

     

    I'd love to understand the thinking process that calls an entire bunch of on-subject ideas 'thread hijacking'.  That's a fascinating one.

     

    Yours respectfully

     

    ulrichburke

     
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    Jan 18, 2010 10:47 AM   in reply to dfghgfd

    If it works everywhere except on two sites, Ockham's razor says there is something wrong with the code on those two sites. Presumably they do some sort of version check that does not only trigger when Flash Player is to old, but also when it is to new. Or using some undocumented feature that got disabled in a recent update.

    I tried looking at the Javascript code used to embed the Flash movies, but that code is scary. No comments, no identation, no discernible structure, just a giant blob of code. If you use this code yourself somewhere, I would recommend ripping it out and replacing it with something maintainable.

     
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    Jan 18, 2010 11:13 AM   in reply to dfghgfd

    Joachim does indeed have a point.  I've now looked at the code on those sites and it isn't well laid out at all, I've done Cobol and C and if I handed it a bunch of code like that to my teacher, I'd've had it handed back to me after being put through the shredder! Me, not the code!!

     

    Can you play stuff on YouTube or other streaming sites? Most of them use .FLV or .SWF files and they're all Flash files.  I DO have another idea, which in all seriousness I'll run past Eidnolb first - I'm not being sarky that time, I respect her and you and want to get you up and running with Flash the same as she does, it's just we've got two different ways of working.  I'm very much a 'suckit'n'see' guy. She's a careful research before you do a thing kinda girl.  I respect her for that, honestly I do, I just love trying things out.  If they don't work, fine, at least you've tried it! That's me.

     

    If you can see YouTube/Veoh/MegaVideo stuff, I'd say the prob's with those two sites more than with you, same as Joachim's saying.  I should have thought of that, I'm to blame there, I just got carried away trying things out.  If you can't, I'll run my latest genius idea (I wish!) past Eidonolb and see what she thinks of it.

     

    I'm not into flame wars either.

     

    Respect to both of you.

     

    ulrichburke.

     
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    Jan 18, 2010 11:26 AM   in reply to Jochem van Dieten

    Hi dfg, I hope you read Jochem's opinion. His statement about the websites has been discussed on the forum and many know that if they have not updated to the latest version of Flash Player and Java, that youtube will be among the first to

    tell you so. The smaller individual websites are not so quick to update and if you have then there is a problem also.

     

    I went to the Preston site and clicked on the My Music like you said. It did play but not smoothly, it was jerky and stopped

    and started. I didn't find the quality up to par, sounded like he was in a tunnel, sort of a muffled sound. When I tried to close the window, it would not close and I had to use Task Manager, etc. I don't have any problem on other sites, forums,

    blogs, etc. This was my experience on the site.

     

    Give me a few minutes to get back on track. Just on Spybot, I'll take your judgement on the Resident and Tea Timer, since you use it. I used it 2 years ago and they must have separated it like you said, so that is good.

     

    Will post back in a few.

     

    Thanks

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    Jan 18, 2010 11:59 AM   in reply to dfghgfd

    I must admit I'd never heard of the Wordpress plug-in before today - my ignorance!

     

    It's sure working fine now, I didn't realise you were actually constructing that feefifaux site, I thought you'd just visited it and discovered you couldn't hear anything.  That's why I suggested trying other streaming sites.  Sorry for my misunderstanding.

     

    I'm glad it's working now.  It's working for me, too - just went back there and heard the tune.  It sounds like a ghostly version of one of the tunes a British band called the Specials used to do, years ago.  They were good at that kind of ghostly reggae, too!

     

    Respect to you and eidnolb both.

     

    Chris.

     
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    Jan 18, 2010 12:00 PM   in reply to dfghgfd

    Good for you dfg! Wordpress has caused a few problems in the past year. Glad they had an update for the plugin.

     

    Thanks for cooperating in the process here, glad also that you have the latest version of FP in IE and FF.

     

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