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Premiere Elements codecs

Apr 9, 2010 9:02 AM

Hello,

 

Before I give a try to Premiere Elements, I would like to know how the codecs are implemented

 

Is it a DirectShow application that uses the DirectX filters?

How about AVC/AAC and MP4 containers that do not have native windows support? I have ffdshow audio/video decoders installed, will PE use those ?

I would not like PE to mess or install more DirectShow filters.

 


Or does Premiere Element come bundled with its own dedicated coder/decoders,  as a completely closed app.

I guess that at least for WMV it will have to use DirectShow

 

Or does it require apple Quicktime for example?

 

Could anybody please share some info on this?

 

Thanks!!!

Gonzalo

 
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    Apr 9, 2010 9:16 AM   in reply to Gonzchi

    Premiere does not use the DirectShow playback engine. That was written out about PrPro 1.0, and not sure when in PrE.

     

    FFDShow has been known to cause major problems with Premiere (both PrPro and PrE). I avoid it.

     

    PrE installs several CODEC's, mostly from MainConcept, but will use many properly installed CODEC's, that are not part of its installation, but not all.

     

    As far as AAC and AC1 CODEC's go, those can be problematic. When I am handed AAC Audio (have not gotten any AAC multi-channel yet), I just convert to PCM/WAV 48KHz 16-bit in the free audio-editor, Audactiy. Even my expensive Adobe Audition, does not like AAC.

     

    This is the second thread in two days on the AC1 CODEC. Must be something common there?

     

    PrE, like PrPro, are pretty narrow, with regard to the material that they work with. You might give the trial a spin, but I feel that you will probably find other software that will suit your needs better.

     

    BTW - what camera are you producing this footage with?

     

    Good luck,

     

    Hunt

     
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    Apr 9, 2010 9:21 AM   in reply to Gonzchi

    This is the other AC1 THREAD.

     

    Missed the QT part of your question - yes, PrE works closely with QT Player (much more so, than PrPro), so that is necessary, and should be updated. Seems that 7.6.6 might be another good version, like 7.5.5 was. The versions in between did not play "nice" with Adobe programs.

     

    Also, WMV is a highly-compressed format, using various MS CODEC's. It is designed for streaming delivery-only, and is not designed to be edited. If that is all you have to work with, I would look into Windows Movie Maker.

     

    Good luck,

     

    Hunt

     
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    Apr 9, 2010 9:31 AM   in reply to Gonzchi
     
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    Apr 9, 2010 10:22 AM   in reply to Gonzchi
    When you say AC1 , you mean the video codec on WMV files, right?

     

    Well, the "wrapper" seems to be WMV, or AVI. Depends on the source of that footage.

     

    As for the GoPro, earlier (and maybe smaller versions?) editions used Xvid, IIRC. The H.264 will be much more mainstream, though the AAC Audio might be an issue. As I mentioned, with 2-channel AAC, I just convert that Audio stream to PCM/WAV. Not sure how well, or poorly, PrE 8 might accommodate it. The number of channels could be an issue, as well.

     

    Not sure of the exact Audio stream with AVCHD 5.1 SS, but that might be AAC too?

     

    Good luck,

     

    Hunt

     

    BTW - many users have had better luck with the Lead, or MainConcept H.264, than with the one from Apple. Most of the issues, that I have read of, have been with Export, and the H.264.

     
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    Apr 9, 2010 10:28 AM   in reply to Gonzchi
    I was afraid that PrE would mess up my codecs.

     

    There should be no issue there. Adobe is very clean, with just a few CODEC's, and those are actually specifically named, so that they are "hidden" and it'd difficult for another program to overwrite those. As an aside, G-Spot, and Sherlock the CODEC Detective will give you false-positives, that the Adobe MainConcept CODEC's are broken, due to that naming convention - nothing to worry about. Now, other programs can alter the priority of CODEC's in the Registry, but can seldom find the Adobe CODEC's. Adobe also does not overwrite any existing CODEC's. It is very benign in that respect.

     

    The only hesitation that I have is FFDShow, because of the issues that it has caused with Adobe programs, primarily PrPro. I just do not know how well Adobe PrE 8, and FFDShow will play together.

     

    Good luck,

     

    Hunt

     

    PS - thanks for the update on the GoPro. We have seen versions of it around, but sounds like the new one has made some significant changes. Hope that all works well together.

     
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    Apr 9, 2010 11:23 AM   in reply to Gonzchi

    Good luck, and fly safely!

     

    Please report how it works in PrE 8 trial. Note: the only limitation of the trial is that it Exports with a watermark, and this FAQ Entry will help you deal with that, should you purchase.

     

    Hunt

     
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    May 6, 2010 10:42 PM   in reply to Bill Hunt

    Gents -

    Sorry if this is a newbie question, but the Codecs have me running in circles.  I am new to Premiere 8, but I love the interface ... except for one thing.  When I create a movie and trie to download to youtube or facebook, they do not recognize the adobe program.  How do I convert to something like mpg4 or one of the many other recognized [whatever the heck they call the code after the "."]  Thanks for your help!

    B Weber in Seattle.

     
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    May 7, 2010 7:36 AM   in reply to RKTect001

    B Weber,

     

    I am anything but an expert on YouTube. However, this FAQ Entry might be helpful to you.

     

    For a background on CODEC's, this ARTICLE might be useful.

     

    Now, when it comes time to Export, everything for AV files is located on the Share tab. There, one can choose the general type of Export/Share. Most of these have drop-downs, or lists, and then many have Options/Advanced buttons, that will allow one to choose things like CODEC's, etc.

     

    Much of this changed in PrE 8, and I do not have that version, so I can't post a simple screen-cap, showing the exact location of the choices of CODEC's, etc.

     

    Good luck,

     

    Hunt

     
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    May 7, 2010 9:16 AM   in reply to Bill Hunt

    Thanks, Hunt!  That is exactly what I needed.

     
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    May 7, 2010 10:53 AM   in reply to RKTect001

    You are most welcome, and hope that that will help.

     

    Happy editing,

     

    Hunt

     
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