Thank you for making things snap to the pixel grid and in return destroying the ability to align things and rendering the pathfinder tools useless
Even try manually aligning the two paths by their X and Y co-ordinates, and you will see they snap back 0.5px
Repeat the above steps with Align New Objects to Pixel Grid off, and see how things use to actually align...
While I do understand you have done this to try to create pixel-perfect graphics, there has to be another way..
Back in CS4, I had a work-around for the pixel-perfect problem. It involved applying a graphic style with a transform properties of -0.5, -0.5 to individual paths or groups. The reason this worked was that it did not affect the actual co-ordinates of the path and allowed me to snap my paths to whatever I wanted..
Adobe, please fix this..
What is it that you want Adobe to fix?
If you don't want this behavior, you can turn it off. In the New Document dialog, go to Advanced and uncheck "Align to Pixel Grid".
If you are already working on a document, go to the Transform panel and you'll find the same setting available for selected objects. There is also a flyout menu on the Transform panel that determines whether this setting will be on or off for newly created objects.
Your old CS4 method should still work.
btw, the reason you are seeing this behavior is that Align to Pixel Grid only adjusts vertical or horizontal segments of paths. In your example it is adjusting the rectangle but not the ellipse.
Thank you for pointing this problem out. I've had the same problem with alignment and snap. It is a most serious problem. After days and nights trying to solve it with no success, and no sleep, my thoughts and feelings alternated between never using Illustrator again and suicide or both. Deadline for a school project is getting too close, and my time is almost out, due to no warning signs of horrible changes in CS5. When points, lines and shapes never snap in place or align, Illustrator becomes entirely useless and life has no meaning. There should have been warning signs and notifications, printed on the software package, and in the booklet and everywhere, and still this new feature sucks. Why make it default with no warning? Does Adobe want to force its users into suicide? This is more dangerous than one may think. Otherwise Illustrator is so perfect and makes life very meaningful indeed.
I have started getting the same problem, it has only recently appeared as it has worked until say 2 weeks ago!
I have switched off the alignment option in Transform panel and set up a new document and switched it off in Advanced options... still does it... it is making Illustrator unusable for most of my use!!
You need to switch this off in 3 places:
1. For new documents in the New Document dialog.
2. For new artwork in the flyout menu on the Transform panel.
3. For existing artwork in the checkbox on the transform panel.
Also not that if you copy artwork from one document to another, it may bring the setting with it.
I too hate this new feature. I can see that it's easy enough to turn off for a new document, but if you're already working on a file, as far as I can tell, every time you draw a new object, you have to uncheck the 'align to pixel grid' box in the transform panel. I find myself going backwards and forwards to the Transform box all the time to keep unchecking it, as there doesn't seem to be any ability to change the default setting in an existing document. If anyone knows a way to change the default setting in an existing document, I would love to know.
I just wasted two hours at work with this problem.
Glad to find the answers in all the replies.
I like the Snap to Pixel feature. But there are times I need it off.
And once again Adobe HIDES important stuff in places you'd never think to look.
Anyway, thanks for answering this guy's problem, helped me out too. But it shouldn't have happened in the first place.
If I'm working on a design destined for web, I leave it on. It's a good, good thing.
But it's RIDICULOUS that the controls for it are in Preferences and the Transform Panel.
These controls should be in the View Menu like everything else.
It is truly horrible.
The controls to shut this off should be in a very consistent and obvious location. It took nearly a month of being convinced that CS6 was buggy before one of the designers here figured out what the heck was going on. I even called in the aid of a licensed adobe instructor and he was also convinced it was a bug, after looking at the view dropdown and not seeing any snap settings checked.
is there no way to shut this off globally so that it never ever happens? I don't want to have to worry about shapes that i paste from other documents possibly bringing that setting with them.
I basically want to be able to disable this once and never have to think about it again. Can i do this?
Your comment that it adjusts only vertical and horizontal path segments so helps me understand why my logo's jagged edges aren't smoothed by this tool. Any suggestion on how to accomplish that? My logo is all diagonal curves.
You can upload the AI file to dropbox.com and provide a link if necessary.
Your screen shot is at such a small size it isn't really able to show what you are seeing. Also, because of the lighbox software that loads your PNG file uses a black background, the blue is difficult to see anyway. Try a JPG or otherwise not a transparent PNG.
Sorry for the delay and thanks Mike and Monika. Here's the link: https://www.dropbox.com/s/o9ergi4c47qyng5/Babington%20Logo%20B%26W.ai
This version is the B&W Ai file and a bit bigger then the other. I made the other so tiny in order to fit the Twitter profile pic dimensions, so that none of the image is cropped out of view.
One more note: This issue of course doesn't just apply to web use of my logo but of lots of assets drawn in Ai to use in Muse. So I need to understand this. Thanks!!!
Thanks Monika - but just tried your suggestion and it doesn't make a difference.
As for size, the one I uploaded to DropBox for you to see is 2" x 3.5" . I also don't understand the size issue. I would think smaller = less pixelated. But I just continue to demonstrate that I'm still a digital dufus.
What do you use in Muse? PNG or SVG?
When your image is drawn on screen it needs to be rasterized at some stage in the process. When creating PNG you rasterize. When working with SVG, the system rasterizes them when displaying on the monitor.
But in any case you cannot expect them to be smooth in the size. Your monitor will always display them as pixels.
I understand that monitors always display in pixels.
Simply, what I'm wanting to understand is best practice to make web graphics, png or jpg at this point, minimally pixelated. Learned above that Align to Pixel grid only works for H & V; want to understand how best to handle curves and diagonals.
As for your comment, "But in any case you cannot expect them to be smooth in the size.", what do you mean by "the size"? If you meant at my small size, what size will make them smoothest?
Am I to conclude there's nothing I can do to avoid the horrible pixelation I see when I turn on View as Pixels?
Because of the thin seperation in the vertical portions, I think you will not get a good anti-aliasing effect straight from AI. So in these instances, I use both AI and an image editor.
I exported the attached at 300 dpi. Loaded it into the image editor and changed the dimensions to 180 pixels because that is what your image is. I don't resample nor alter the DPI value because DPI means nothing on the web, only pixel dimensions matter on the web.
It is as crispy as it needs to be I think for the purpose.
Take care, Mike
Thanks so much Mike. I knew on a back burner of my mind that I had read in something like this in another forum - about tweaking in Ps. So that sounds like the practice I should adopt for web graphics created in Ai. Still don't understand the size issue but at least have a practice to work with as I create a bunch of assets for Muse, as well as post logos etc in Social Media. Thanks again.
Sorry for these further questions about your solution, but here's a 3rd: When I change dimensions to 180 pixels in Ps, I can't turn off Resample without losing the changed dimension. So it seems I must resample with Bicubic Sharper algorithim. How'd you avoid resampling?
The image editor I use simply redefines the resampling to a different term...but it still is there. Which is why I said I mispoke. It is PhotoLine. A very dated interface.
The two brothers involved have been around a very long time and actively update and enhance it. There is a Mac version and for Windows both 32-bit and 64-bit get installed (mainly the 32-bit to maintain the use of 8bf filters). Cost-effective and does everything I need and more.
As regards image editing proper, PS is and probably always will be tops. Especially when it comes to scripting and the add-ons one can purchase.
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