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Photoshop CS5 ignores OS X Spaces

Aug 27, 2010 5:45 PM

  Latest reply: ringedingdong, Mar 24, 2011 1:01 AM
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    Sep 10, 2010 9:06 PM   in reply to philosopherdog

    Yes it is by design.

    One reason for this is that floating panels live above other windows. This is how they always stay above documents. If we did not hide them when you click on Finder, then you would find that your Photoshop toolbar (and other floating UI) would obscure (be in front of) your Finder windows (or your Mail windows).

    Another reason is that if you use multiple applications, then it could be confusing to see UI windows that are unrelated to the current, active, application. Consider using Photoshop, Illustrator, and InDesign at the same time and having a layers panel floating in each application. If we did not hide panels for inactive applications, then you would see three layers panels at any given time. Clicking on the "wrong" panel would activate the application that then panel belongs to (and disrupt your work).

    The net effect is less clutter on your desktop when you are not working with Photoshop.

     
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    Sep 14, 2010 1:31 PM   in reply to philosopherdog

    You are correct in stating that the front argument is a consolidation of two separate issues:

    • Cocoa has weak (actually no) good support for moving floating panels down into the document layer when the application deactivates (there are hacks, but they do not always work)
    • Floating panels that exist in the document layer will still obscure icons on your desktop

    The general idea is that (floating) UI exist to assist you in working with your current focus target. When Photoshop is in the background, you are targeting something else than a Photoshop document, so we hide the floating Photoshop UI.

    (if you are interesting in Apple's take on floating UI, then you can read: http://developer.apple.com/library/mac/#documentation/Cocoa/Conceptual /WinPanel/Concepts/UsingPanels.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/20000224 ).

    Therefore, the current behavior is expected.

    Besides posting on this forum, you may also use the following link to suggest new behaviors and features in Adobe products:

    https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform

     
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    Oct 15, 2010 9:43 AM   in reply to philosopherdog

    Does anybody else have issues with their entire system freezing and then logging out when switching Spaces with PS CS5 open? At first I thought it was an issue with Snow Leopard, but looking back I never had it happen when I had CS3. It only happens when I've got PS running, and it's a huge pain. Luckily it hasn't happened yet when I've had unsaved work, but I'm sure it will someday.

     
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    Oct 15, 2010 9:56 AM   in reply to Andrew Philpott

    I haven't heard about this. If the system freezes & auto-logs out, then it is an Apple bug (because your error description indicates a failure in an OS service).

    You may want to take a look in the OSX Console (in the utility folder).

    The following assumes OSX 10.6.

    Launch "Console"

    See if you see anything that indicate a failure close to the time when your session froze.

    Then click on "Show Log List"

    - Navigate to FILES>"/private/var/log/windowserver.log" and look for suspicious entries.

    - Navigate to FILES>"/private/var/log/system.log" and look for suspicious entries.

    - Navigate to FILES>"/private/var/log/kernel.log" and look for suspicious entries.

    Be aware that output to the console is hard to read, and most entries are perfectly harmless.

    Since we have seen systemwide problems on OSX related to video card drivers, please make sure that your system is up to date.

     
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    Oct 15, 2010 10:03 AM   in reply to Jesper Storm Bache

    Looking in the kernel.log I found this right around the time my system crashed:

     

    Oct 15 12:28:24 Andrew-Philpotts-MacBook-Pro kernel[0]: NVDA: Fatal error, failed to make a texture resident.  GPU heap size is 666 MB with 6199 textures and 10 surfaces.

    Oct 15 12:28:24 Andrew-Philpotts-MacBook-Pro kernel[0]: The graphics driver has detected a corruption in its command stream.

     

    My system is up to date, I update it frequently. I just don't understand why this never happened until I started using CS5 and why it only happens when PS CS5 is running unless it's in some way related.

     
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    Oct 15, 2010 10:16 AM   in reply to Andrew Philpott

    This looks like a problem in your NVidia driver or in OSX.

    CS5 uses OpenGL accelerated documents by default and this may trigger this bug (Expose & Spaces seem to also rely on OpenGL).

    Try to go into your Photoshop preferences and Turn off "Enable OpenGL Drawing" in the Performance section.

    You should also consider reporting this problem to Apple.

     
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    Oct 15, 2010 10:20 AM   in reply to Jesper Storm Bache

    Cool, I'll give that a try. Thanks for the tip.

     
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    Oct 16, 2010 9:17 AM   in reply to philosopherdog

    You loose the performance benefits of OpenGL

     
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    Mar 24, 2011 1:01 AM   in reply to Jesper Storm Bache

    Yeah, that works!

     
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