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1. dradeke,

Nov 28, 2010 3:33 AM in reply to thatblokeoffthetelly

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I'd trash your preferences and try again. http://blogs.adobe.com/genesisproject/2009/11/having_weird_behavior_wi th_an.html

Beyond that, when you do your second comp, make sure your first AE project (including the comp) is open.

Hope this helps,

Dennis

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2. thatblokeoffthetelly,

Nov 28, 2010 7:46 AM in reply to dradeke

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Dennis,

Ty so much it even let me reimport the AE file. You're a star!

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3. thatblokeoffthetelly,

Nov 29, 2010 3:18 AM in reply to dradeke

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Addendum..

It worked the first time.

It didn't work the second time.

I'm beginning to think it's a version problem.

I'm not the only one finding annoying little faults since the install of 5.02.

Any ideas how to get around this?

I'm even taking the new files created in AE and importing them directly in to premiere. They show as originally edited in AE, but asa they are in Premiere they revert to the file previously edited, in appearance anyway.

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4. thatblokeoffthetelly,

Nov 29, 2010 3:47 AM in reply to thatblokeoffthetelly

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And..

When I open the modified file in AE it is reported as linked to file X.

When I open the file that proceeds it in AE it is linked to file Y.

And the next one is reported as being linked to file Z.

But..

When I import all of these in to Premiere they are all labelled as linked to file Z.

Premiere replaces the former 2 edits with the latter even though they still exist as separate AE files, viewable in AE.

I've even saved them under different names, but Premiere still links them to the newest edit.

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5. Jeff Bellune,

Nov 29, 2010 4:31 AM in reply to thatblokeoffthetelly

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You said it might be a version problem? What version of AE? Confirm again your version of Pr from Help | About, please.

A series of screen shots would be helpful. Your AE project panel and one of the comps open in the timeline; your Pr project panel showing one of the AE comps selected; a Pr sequence open that contains one of the comps.

Please create a new test project from File | New and see if you can duplicate the problem. Use different files (not just renamed files) and a new AE project. That'll troubleshoot the possibility of a corrupted working project.

-Jeff

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6. tclark513,

Nov 29, 2010 7:08 AM in reply to thatblokeoffthetelly

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This is not a version problem. This annoying bug has been around since day one with Dynamic Link.

There are two ways around it.

1. Make sure you use the same AE "Project" with multiple compositions. A composition for each Dynamic Link. (Make sure compositions have unique names)

2. Make sure the project name and composition names are COMPLETELY different from the other projects.

Do NOT "save as" any AE projects from original ones to save time with new compositions. It will screw all your other Dynamic links up the minute you save it.

You can't even use names like "Project A or Project B. It has to be completely different or all your links will be saved back to your last one.

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7. Jon-M-Spear,

Nov 29, 2010 7:47 AM in reply to thatblokeoffthetelly

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When you are in AE, can you see as many comps as you have clips that you've linked with PP? If there is only one, that may be where the problem lies.

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8. thatblokeoffthetelly,

Nov 29, 2010 2:08 PM in reply to Jeff Bellune

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Version 10.0.1.19.

Notice the two different files now share the same linked composition (19).

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9. thatblokeoffthetelly,

Nov 29, 2010 2:15 PM in reply to tclark513

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Tclark your answer was very helpful, but I was left a little confused.

So it's better to use 1 project with multiple compositions rather than several different projects?

I've been saving two different versions, project a and project b, reimporting the AE file and deleting the 5.0 folder in docs to work around this annoying issue. Long and tedious but it does work.

'Do NOT "save as" any AE projects from original ones' Not quite sure what you mean. They are clips from Premiere, not original AE files. Cold you explain plz.

Thx again for the valuable help all.

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10. Jeff Bellune,

Nov 29, 2010 2:36 PM in reply to tclark513

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This annoying bug has been around since day one with Dynamic Link.

This is the first I've heard of it. And I've twisted DL upside down and sideways for several years now, and I have never encountered this issue.

Do you have reproducible steps I can try in new projects to see this bug in action?

A composition for each Dynamic Link. (Make sure compositions have unique names)

This, to me, seems patently obvious. Are there places in the documentation for Pr and/or AE where some other method is given or suggested? If so, those entries may need to be corrected.

Do NOT "save as" any AE projects from original ones to save time with new compositions. It will screw all your other Dynamic links up the minute you save it.

The only issue with Save As, or incrementing, that I have seen is one that is to be logically expected. If you link to a comp in Project_A from Pr, then work in Project_A in After Effects, then Save the current AE project as something like Project_A_01, all of your links in Pr still point to the old version, Project_A. You'd have to re-link all of the comp references in Pr to the new version of the AE project to get the changes to appear in Pr. Again, to me, that is expected behavior.

Any reproducible steps you can post would help.

-Jeff

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11. Jon-M-Spear,

Nov 29, 2010 2:42 PM in reply to thatblokeoffthetelly

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When PP opens an initial link to AE, a new AE project is created. That project must be saved when you exit AE otherwise the work done in AE (ie, the contents of the dynamic link) will be lost. When you create subsequent dynamic links, AE will create a new project unless the original one remains open.

No matter the number of linking clips, it is always better to have them contained as separate compositions within one AE project rather than allowing AE to create a new project for each link - as that is not the best management of resources.

If you change the name of that AE project (save as), you will have to re-link the clip links from within PP.

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12. thatblokeoffthetelly,

Nov 30, 2010 10:54 AM in reply to thatblokeoffthetelly

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It's the relinking that seems unnecessary to me. After the first time this happened I made sure to exit both programs when I'd finished and restart to try and avoid any link being made with the next clip I wanted to change in AE. If the clips have completely different names and the work done in AE is saved, I fail to see why Prem would automatically change the linked clip.

'That project must be saved when you exit AE otherwise the work done in AE' - Yes, I did that originally.

'If you change the name of that AE project (save as), you will have to re-link the clip links from within PP.' I did relink, but only after Prem connected the previous file to the new one. Plus I had to resave the new file in AE under a different name to stop Prem from replacing the previous clip with the new one.

'all of your links in Pr still point to the old version, Project_A. You'd have to re-link all of the comp references in Pr to the new version of the AE project to get the changes to appear in P' - the opposite is happening. Prem links the previously replaced clip withe new one, i.e clips A and B become clips B and B.

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13. Jon-M-Spear,

Dec 1, 2010 1:41 AM in reply to thatblokeoffthetelly

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Relinking only becomes necessary if you have renamed the AE project. PP created an initial link under one name, and if it's changed within AE, PP can no longer associate it.

I think I have replicated your problem whereby clip (1) that has been exported to AE is replaced with clip (2) after exporting/importing etc,. I cannot attribute it to anything or suggest how you resolve it. I put it down to AE and PP becoming very confused for whatever reason. I was subsequently getting dynamiclinkmanager crashes when starting AE. That was a new one on me.

The cross-linked file issue hasn't happened before and, after a reboot, hasn't happened since.

So, assuming that it didn't happen - try this...

Reverse engineer what you're trying to achieve and see whether that resolves the problem:

- Open a new AE project and save it. Keep it open

- Open a new PP project, import some source material and place a few clips in a new sequence.

- Carry out a "Replace with After Effects Compoosition" on clip 1. The original AE project will take the focus.

- Add an effect in AE, save it and go back into PP

- Do the same with clip 2, and so on until each clip in the sequence has been manuipluated in AE.

At any time do any of your clips become cross-linked - or are you getting the result that you expect?

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14. Jon-M-Spear,

Dec 1, 2010 6:07 AM in reply to thatblokeoffthetelly

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As an afterthought...

If you want to rework the dynamically linked clip in AE, click on the "Edit original" option in PP. Do not rclick the "Replace with After Effects Composition" again. You should only click on that ONCE - the very first time you initiate the link.

Of course, because it's linked, you can also work on the clip by opening the AE project first, and amending it from there. Reworking a clip doesn't have to be initiated from within PP. I think that may be part of the reason I got the cross-linking issue a moment ago.

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16. thatblokeoffthetelly,

Dec 1, 2010 6:10 PM in reply to thatblokeoffthetelly

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Thx J

I'm busy with a different project atm, but asa I get time I'll try your suggestion and post the results.

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17. philmwallah,

Mar 27, 2011 6:36 AM in reply to thatblokeoffthetelly

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greetings,

I too, am having this issue on a lengthy project. It is a pain to keep going back and replacing the AE clips in PP because of the name changing. Was there a solution?

Thanks

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18. thatblokeoffthetelly,

Mar 27, 2011 7:14 AM in reply to philmwallah

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Rename the clips sothey are completely different from one another.

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19. philmwallah,

Mar 27, 2011 7:17 AM in reply to thatblokeoffthetelly

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thanks, I will give it a go

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