This has been discussed earlier but I am looking for more input.
There are two significant problems with Step and Repeat in InDesign CS5:
1. In the dialog, horizontal and vertical are in reverse order.
2. After stepping an object, the original object remains selected.
Does anyone know why Adobe changed the dialog and behavior from all previous versions of InDesign? I can understand the advantages of the new grid feature, but that could have been implemented without changing the normal step and repeat.
Printer_Rick wrote:
2. After stepping an object, the original object remains selected.
After I step anything all objects are selected? It changed in CS3 and then it was dependent on when you clicked the preview button and whether you made changes to the repeat count before or after selecting or deselecting it. Sandee Cohen answers a question about it in Indesign Mag issue 20.
As to the rest, IMHO it's just another thing that the engineers made a mistake on. Like the buttons for vertical justification on a text frame:
They've lost their relationship to each other so it's hard to see whether you're clicking on middle or bottom; ironically they also take up more space.
I just pulled up CS3 to check. Step and Repeat, original object does not remain selected. Preview has no effect.
CS4, same thing. Original object does not remain selected, Preview has no effect.
CS5 is the first time I have encountered this strange behavior. I step an object – it remains selected. Not sure why this is, there's no reason to step it again.
As for the order of horizontal and vertical, I can maybe see why they changed it – when the grid option is enabled, "Rows" aligns with Vertical, "Columns" with Horizontal.
I still think it needs to change to the old appearance as long as the Grid option is disabled. This looks similar to the Transform: Move dialog, with Horizontal on top of Vertical (and therefore first in the typing sequence.).
I can't say how many times I have stepped objects the wrong direction because of the reversed sequence.
The normal Step and Repeat should behave exactly like Transform: Move – except you always produce copies, and can choose how many copies you need. That's how it was with CS4 and previous versions.
If enough people agree I will report this as a bug.
No point in reporting it as a bug, since it will get dismissed as "by design" and not a bug. That doesn't mean it's a GOOD design and sholdn't change, just that filing a bug won't make it happen. File your opinion as a feature request instead (to change an exixiting feature) and it might get reviewed and implemented. Same form...
3. The stupid "helpful" error message that says it can't add boxes outside of the bounds pasteboard... It keeps the settings you last used to step and repeat. But when you add your new count, then tab to change the old offset number, if it happens to go outside of the bounds as it calculates using the old offset number it gives you an error, and reset's your count. It shouldn't give you the error until you hit "ok" (if your objects will go out of the pasteboard). This is rediculous for it to tell you that your settings are wrong when it is judging it off the settings from last time which you are in the process of changing.
This might be worth filing a bug. Adobe - Feature Request/Bug Report Form
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