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How do you lock the Image Frame and Contents frame together?

Dec 21, 2010 11:44 AM

Hi

 

InDesign CS4 question.

 

I should have asked this a long time ago, but I got used to just dragging a big image frame and then switching to the white selection arrow and moving the contents to where I want it and then dragging the cropping frames to the size.

Then positioning the image and within it.

 

But there are time when I just want to drag the image to another location.

Sometimes I can and sometimes I can't.

 

When it will not move the two frames at the same time how do I lock them together.

I really looked for a solution but I must not be describing what I'm trying to do because I can't find anything.

 

Any help appreciated!

 

Mike

2548 Views   11 Replies   Latest reply: Peter Spier, Dec 25, 2010 5:24 AM
 
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  • Peter Spier
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    1. Peter Spier,
    Dec 21, 2010 12:09 PM   in reply to Nohjekim
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    Use the selection tool (black arrow) for positioning the frame. The content will come along for the ride. The dierect select tool is for manipulating the content inside the frame.

     
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    2. Nohjekim,
    Dec 22, 2010 2:07 PM   in reply to Nohjekim
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    Hi

     

    I should have described it better.

     

    I know it normally works this way but sometimes since I switched to CS4, I have done something that makes the frame and the image independent and I don't know how I got it that way.

     

    Once this happens I can drag the frame using the black selection tool and the image stays behind.  I can't get them to move as one unit again.

     

    I don't know what I do to create this condition.

    I just tried to do it on purpose and couldn't

    I figured this was some feature I wasn't aware of.

     

    As I said, I didn't have this until  I upgraded to CS4.

     

    Maybe it's just some kind of glitch, but I assumed that I was hitting some key or something that caused this and that there was a command to make them rejoin.

     

    Mike

     
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    3. Peter Spier,
    Dec 22, 2010 2:16 PM   in reply to Nohjekim
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    I've never seen that happen, and as far as I know it shouldn't be possible.

     
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    4. Nohjekim,
    Dec 22, 2010 2:35 PM   in reply to Nohjekim
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    Well then it's some kind of glitch.

    I'm running Windows 7 64 bit, I had to upgrade from CS2 because it wouldn't run in 64 bit Windows.

     

    The next time I have it happen I'll try just deleting the image and place it again and see what happens.

    I really thought it was some new feature that I had not seen in earlier versions.

     

    As I said I tried to make it do it today on purpose and couldn't get it to do so.

    I must do something that triggers it but I don't know what.

     

    Thanks for the help.

     

    Mike

     
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    5. Peter Spier,
    Dec 22, 2010 2:48 PM   in reply to Nohjekim
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    It sounds almost like you have two frames, one in front of the other.

     
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    Dec 24, 2010 7:52 AM   in reply to Nohjekim
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    What happens is that when I grab the frame and drag it the image is just left behind and becomes invisible since it only shows when It's inside the frame.

    As I said when this happens I have to drag a big frame to find it again.

     

    Then I have to move the contents to where I want them and then size the frame fit the space.

     

    But now that I know it's not some kind of feature that I wasn't aware of I'll try deleting the picture and importing it again.

     

    Thanks again for the help.

     

    Mike

     
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    7. Peter Spier,
    Dec 24, 2010 8:03 AM   in reply to Nohjekim
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    Are you absolutely certain the frame is moving, and not the image? Each has an independent bounding box The one for the frame matches the color code assigned to the layer, the one for the image is differernt -- for the deafult layer 1, this would be light blue for the frame and brown for the image) Is there a stroke on the frame so you could tell?

     

    I'm wondering if you might be double-clicking the frame before moving, that would select the content and switch to the direct select tool, so you would be moving the image and leaving the frame behind.

     
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    8. Nohjekim,
    Dec 24, 2010 8:43 AM   in reply to Nohjekim
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    Hi again.

     

    Yes the blue frame drags and the image just moves out of the box as I drag it away.

     

    I've started with Aldus PageMaker and moved through may versions of Adobe PageMaker and then into InDesign and I never saw anything like this until I installed InDesign CS4 on my new PC.

     

    As I said it doesn't do this all the time, only once in a while.  I have no idea if this somehow relates to how my video works, I've had lots of other strange things over the years.

    Like not being able to get PageMaker to refresh the screen without having to switch back and forth between windowed and full screen every time.  I had this on several computers.

     

    That's why I thought it was some command that I was triggering somehow.

     

    I haven't had a chance to see if deleting and reimporting the image again will clear it up but I'm guessing that it will.

    If I find out I'll come back and let you know.

     

    I'm retired (72) and don't spend a lot of time in InDesign now, but I still do an job once in a while.

     

    Mike

     
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    9. Peter Spier,
    Dec 24, 2010 8:56 AM   in reply to Nohjekim
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    If it continues to happen, I suggest you trytrashing your prefs. See Replace Your Preferences

     

    You should also be able to select the frame and choose fitting aoptions to get the image back inside (ore use one of the buttons on the control panel). But this still sounds like a case of two frames. These aren't converted Pagemaker files with keylines around  images, are they? Pagemaker required a separate stroked rectangle that was grouped with the image by the plugin. ID can stroke the image frame directly, but I suspect a converted file might still have the extra rectangle, particulary if the two parts had been ungrouped (that used to drive me crazy when I did ads for real estate brokers and auto dealers with lots of photos when I worked for a newspaper that was PM-based).

     
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    10. Nohjekim,
    Dec 24, 2010 9:37 PM   in reply to Nohjekim
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    I'll try both of these things.

     

    Thanks for the help.

     

    Merry Christmas

     

    Mike

     
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    11. Peter Spier,
    Dec 25, 2010 5:24 AM   in reply to Nohjekim
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    And to you..

     
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