I've got a ID book, lots of inline images, which are composites: PSD combined with callouts--arrows and text created in ID and then grouped.
Using Adobe's export to epub in ID4, the callouts are screwed up hopelessly. The only solution I can see is to export every grouped image as a jpeg and then place it. Big hassle -- 500 images. And I can't see a way to automate it.
Anybody know if I'm going to have to do that with the Kindle plugin? Any other suggestions?
Thanks,
Steve
Exporting to Epub is not a WYSIWYG experience. Liz Castro has a wonderful book availabe: http://amzn.to/eAff83
and Rufus Deuchler's ebook on the subject is another great resource: http://amzn.to/fBHgKU
Bob
Thanks, Bob. I will look at those two.
But I have a very specific question and so far, nobody seems to have the answer.
It seems to me that this would not be an uncommon need. You create an image by grouping together photoshop images and text created in ID, then place that (as instructed in all the ebook manuals) in line in the text flow. Then export, only to discover that the grouped image is completely munged with the text being treated as a separate thing.
I need a way to automatically take all these grouped images, turn them into jpgs and then re-place them.
And it seems to me that ID ought to do that for me. Or a plug in.
Thanks again,
Steve
It may seem that way, but it's not that way. You really need get a grasp on the actual limitations of the epub format.
It's not a WYSIWYG thing from ID. Only PDF, SWF and print will give you that.
Epub uses HTML and CSS. If you don't have a firm understanding of those you're going to run into issues.
Bob
Bob,
Forgive me if this seems argumentative, but I don't know what you mean. I understand how epub and css works. And I know enough to realize that nothing about CSS is going to make those images with callouts look right. The callouts are very carefully positioned. CSS is not going to reproduce that. The only way this is going to work is if the text becomes part of a jpeg. That's what I need help with. I have to do that 500 times, by hand.
Or else I have to publish a pdf to Kindle.
What specifically is it that I don't understand?
Steve
Thanks, Bob. Sadly, that's my point.
What this means is that you can't use all of IDs many graphics tools to create images and expect an easy trip to Kindle-land.
When I started this book, I asked here on the forums, in great detail, about how to create the images. Should they be completely generated in Illustrator and placed as a single object? Or should the underlying screenshot be placed and callouts be generated in ID and grouped with it. The consensus was that I'd have a lot more control doing it in ID, putting styles on the callouts, because I could create consistent text and scale the images as needed. And indeed that proved to be true.
Adobe should include, in the epub export, an option to have all grouped images converted to single objects. It converts images anyway. It ought to understand grouped, inline images and turn them into jpegs.
The way it is now, I'm going to have to create a completely separate document, with completely separate images, for the kindle book. If I make another edition, with editorial changes, then I'm going to have to do the whole bloody export/import again.
Thanks again,
Steve
That's a nice feature request, but it will fall on deaf ears here. Better to click this link and let Adobe know about it officially: https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform
Bob
Perhaps this will help: http://indesignsecrets.com/layoutzone-cs4-now-available-with-added-fea tures.php
It won't export to jpeg, but it will export to PDF, which might work, or you could run a batch action in Photoshop to conver the PDFs...
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